Is this one of the most common, well known video clips that you've seen in WW2 documentary's?



I've even seen it pop up occasionally in music and unrelated videos.

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Stuka Ace...

Rudel was a warrior, despite the side he fought for. Sinking a battleship during the battle of Stalingrad, continuing fly after losing a leg, claiming one of Russia’s ace pilots, who crashed trying to shot him down.

Only recipient of the Knight's Cross with Golden Oak Leaves and Swords, and Diamonds (Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes mit Goldenem Eichenlaub, Schwertern und Brillanten).

Bader was a bad ass too. NO legs.

Damn, Stukas with cannons!

Yeah, those Stuka pilots were real heroes, especially when they used the hospital of a Polish city as their aiming point. That's how they STARTED World War 2.

Fuck those Nazi slimeballs. Hope they're enjoying their anally-delivered pineapples in Hell.

Yup.

Rudel's plane.

Holy shit

Derisive snort...

Germany made so many beautifully ugly aircraft.

There are only two intact surviving JU-87s.

One in England, at the RAF Museum in London.

One in Chicago, hanging from the ceiling at the Museum of Science and Industry.

Make it three! Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum is well along in restoring a Ju87-R4 to flying condition.

https://flyingheritage.org/Explore/The-Collection/Germany/Junkers-Ju-87-R-4-Stuka.aspx

I’d take German accounts of losses inflicted only one step more seriously than the Russians.

His surrender to the Allies was pure class, too. They loaded up everyone who would fit into every plane that would fly, went west until they found an airfield in Allied hands, then crashed their planes on the runways in order to deny their use to their would-be captors.

Then he surrendered.

He was an unrepentant Nazi to his dying day, so take his accomplishments for what they are during he war.

thats an insane amount of flight time.

He also married three separate women named Ursula . Probably a first as well...

Rudel was married three times. His 1942 marriage to Ursula, nicknamed "Hanne", produced two sons, Hans-Ulrich and Siegfried. They divorced in 1950. According to the news magazine Der Spiegel, one reason for the divorce was that his wife had sold some of his decorations, including the Oak Leaves with Diamonds, to an American collector, but she also refused to move to Argentina.[59] On 27 March 1951, Der Spiegel published Ursula Rudel's denial of selling his decorations, and further stated she had no intention of doing so.[60] Rudel married his second wife, Ursula née Daemisch in 1965. The marriage produced his third son, Christoph, born in 1969.[61] A year later, Rudel survived a stroke on 26 April 1970.[62] Following his divorce in 1977, he married Ursula née Bassfeld.[61]

Engineer Pierre Sprey, a former Pentagon procurement official who helped design the A-10, confirmed to The Daily Beast that none other than legendary Luftwaffe Colonel Hans-Ulrich Rudel was consulted to develop the Warthog.

I'd take Nazi Germany war propaganda 'statistics' with a grain of salt.....

IIRC, that tail will end up composed of parts of two crashed aircraft.

It's like pulling parts from 2 scrapped F-150s, fabricating whatever parts you need, and calling it "All Original".

No battleships at Stalingrad.

German verification procedures were as stringent as anyone's.  All sides over claimed, often grossly so.

If ya want to see a cool documentary on the Stuka there is a really good one on Amazon

If you think dual 3,7 cm cannons are sweet, let me tell you about the HS 129:

It carried a 7,5 cm Pak 40 as its main armament...
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Barat was at Leningrad, sorry. Some-kind-of-Grad...

If you guys want to see some truly rare and awesome footage that you probably haven't seen before of Luftwaffe birds, youtube the old History Channel series "Wings of the Luftwaffe" on YouTube.  I don't know where they got their footage, but most of the stuff I see on that series is not shown anywhere else.  It's also very informative.



This is one of about 15 episodes you can find online.

I had one of these as a kid.  It was one of my favorite toys.  The bomb would drop.

My favorite occurrence of the footage...

You dropped a bomb on me

I had that too. Die cast metal. If I remember correctly the bomb could hold a cap gun cap that would pop on hitting the ground.

I had a Stuka gas powered Cox plane when I was a kid, the kind that used a string to fly. I remember it was big and it came in black plastic with red interior (which looked like crap to me), so I painted it in German WWII desert camo with those giraffe pattern stripes using and airbrush along with the cockpit and canopy details and it looked much better like a huge scale model.

Also had the gas powered Cox P40 and P51.

This was in the late 70's.

the stuka b-1 variant with its jericho trumpets scared the hell out of soldiers

The Stuka was a real departure in both aircraft design and the tactics to use it. It was also heavily propagandized as the new face of the modern German Air Force. It developed a new idea for bombing and also the idea of true close support with aircraft dropping bombs right in support of the front line troops. IIRC, the Germans were the first ones to introduce the idea of the Forward Air Controller as well.
Those Stuka pilots were the cream of the crop, too. Only the highest marks in flying (and, not coincidentally, the most politically reliable) were allowed into the program, and it was easy to wash out. Unfortunately for the Stuka, it was really slow and easy meat for any kind of halfway modern fighter by 1941. A lot of really good pilots died who would be sorely missed later in the war by the Luftwaffe.
Rudel, while no doubt a very, very good pilot, and without question a brave man, was also a convinced, hard core Nazi who never actually gave up his beliefs. The definition of the word "fanatic", he retired to Spain and wrote Stuka Pilot, a book that seems to have patches of genuine experiences intermixed with outright lies and propaganda. The flying stuff, especially later in the war, is probably (mostly at least) based in reality. His accounts of the beginning of the war and seeing the Soviets lined up ready to invade them? Utter bullshit, and there are other passages that are just as suspect as well. But for the most part, it's relatively accurate.
A lot of people do not know this, but one of the most heavily Nazi influenced of the services was the Air Force. Considering it owed its very existence to the Nazi Party, that should not be a surprise.  It had no traditions like the Army or Navy and it was probably on par with the Waffen SS for numbers of convinced Nazis in the ranks. Especially when you consider that the Waffen SS could not draw from the pool of draftees set aside for the Wehrmacht, and so had to lose a lot of party members to the other services. If you were in the pool you could volunteer for the Air Force though, and many did. Remember, the number two guy in Nazi Germany until at least 1942 (nine years) was Hermann Goering.

Rudel's kill claims are considered highly suspect and are debated heavily by historians.

His real kill count is highly likely to be much less.

You mean their pilots were capable of knocking out entire brigades single highhandedly but they still lost the war?

This clip may have it beat. Coincidentally, it is also dive bomber footage.

The "Japanese" SBDs that have been bombing Pearl Harbor since John Ford used this footage of Hinomaru-marked US Navy Douglas SBD Dauntless dive bombers in his 1943 propaganda film "December 7th." The full sequence has been used by lazy documentarians and filmmakers for the past 76 years.


As for the film "December 7th," it is not your typical propaganda film of the era. The full-length (non-censored) version is worth a watch. It's quite good. Everyone's favorite SBDs make their appearance at the 46min 33sec-mark of the film.

Seen them both. Apparently the one in Chicago was found intact but shot down with a 20mm cannon slug in the crankcase.

Yep, there are still a shit-ton of bullet & shrapnel holes visible.

Stukas were one of the most overrated aircraft of WWII. They were outstanding when unopposed (like every other bomber), but were massacred by allied fighters over Europe. They were slow and their bomb load too anemic to be of any real use once the Luftwaffe lost air superiority. They were far more effective on the eastern front before the Soviets got their act together.

Pretty much this. Phenomenal ground (and naval) attack aircraft when the ME-109s had driven the enemy from the air and forward air controllers were embedded with the tracks and infantry. Piss poor when tasked with penetrating contested airspace over the south of Britain.

I’ve looked at the pictures of it hanging in the museum multiple times in the past but for some reason didn’t notice the battle damage. You’re right, there are quite a few....

I can’t find a pic, but I had a very detailed Stuka model when I was a kid.  It had a battery and you wire wound the motor during the build.  When you spun the propeller it would “run” until you stopped it.  It had a working bomb trapeze too.  My best model build, but alas my mother hated it hanging from the ceiling in my room and would attack it (breaking antennas, etc.) when dusting.

The Stuka was the lovechild of WWI Ace Ernst Udet, who as early Luftwaffe Development Chief, put in place the policy that all Luffwaffe bombers have the capacity to be able to dive bomb, (silly especially with large bombers such as the HE-177).

The Stuka featured a sophisticated Recovery system for the Dive Bomb Attack.

The pilot pushed a bottom on the stick right after release of the bomb.

The aircraft would automatically climb back several thousand feet and then level out.

This was in case the crew blacked out from the severe G-stress of steep pull up from near vertical dives.

Most dive bombers attacked at 40-60 degree dives, but the Stuka could be used in near vertical dives for maximum accuracy according to Legendary British Test Pilot Eric Brown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87

Yay Nazi's!

There's more hysteria over the Nazis now than there was in 1941.

Go outside, take a breath of fresh air and quit worrying yourselves to death over the Nazis. Most of the actual Nazis left in the world are either pushing up daisies or shitting their adult diapers while slobbering to the tune of the Horst Wessel Lied.

If you want a dystopian regime to worry about that is actually working very hard to fuck you and your entire way of life in the ass, look no further than the communists. Unlike the Nazis, you can find them literally everywhere.

Neat, thanks for posting.

Yep.  The plaque on the wall will point out where to look.

That’s truth......at least here anyway. But a friend of mine in LEJ family still talk about their SS Officer Uncle like he got a raw deal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Bochmann

Nazi's are given site staff jobs in hell.

Freinds, even if they inflated Rudels kill record x2, it would still be high.
As far as who is the worst, Nazis or Commies, the Commies have killed more people than the Nazis ever dreamed of.
Yet we don't see the terrible nashing of teeth when commies are mentioned like we do with nazis.
Nazis and Commies are really the same thing.
Not much difference.

Our home grown nazi/antifa/junior communist/democrate socialists are the same types.  They believe that because it's them and not mao, stalin, or hitler, it would be different.
It would not be so.

Or was it Marat?