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Posted: 1/28/2020 4:22:03 PM EDT
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If it is a virgin stripped lower build away, to whatever configuration you like. It is an Other.
the rule is "if first a rifle always a rifle." even if the FFL checked the wrong box it means nothing, the only thing that matters is the initial configuration. for instance, this 10/22 receiver would be technically illegal to build as a 10/22 pistol because it was first a factory rifle then parted out. https://sapoutfitters.com/product/ruger-1022-stripped-receiver/ TLDR: your good build away |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 4:52:39 PM EDT
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A stripped receiver is an other, no matter if there were braces or not, therefor it can be built as a pistol or a rifle. If you build it into a rifle, then it is illegal to take it apart and re-configure as a pistol, your legal option at that time would be turn it into an SBR with a stamp.
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Posted: 1/28/2020 4:55:39 PM EDT
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So, it’s better to buy a receiver stripped instead of a complete rifle. That way u can make a pistol or rifle. And even if u make a rifle it’s not registered as anything. So later you can make it into a pistol. Right?
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Posted: 1/28/2020 5:34:48 PM EDT
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So, it’s better to buy a receiver stripped instead of a complete rifle. That way u can make a pistol or rifle. And even if u make a rifle it’s not registered as anything. So later you can make it into a pistol. Right? |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 7:48:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The first configuration you build it as is what matters. So if you take your stripped receiver and build it first as a rifle it would be illegal to then configure it as a pistol. Winner, winner, Chicken dinner. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 9:22:42 PM EDT
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It’s interesting that if I go to another state I can not buy a stripped lower since it may be a pistol. But, can buy a complete AR rifle m some states It's not because "it may be a pistol". Federal law restricts the transfer of firearms to your state of residence, and exempts rifles and shotguns providing your state of residence does not prohibit the transfer of that rifle or shotgun. Other firearms you cannot acquire outside your state of residence: Firearms that are not rifles, shotguns or handguns such as Pistol Grip Only shotguns. NFA firearms (MG's, silencers, AOW, SBR, SBS) |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:51:26 PM EDT
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Some good answers in this thread, but it has all been covered repeatedly and in great detail in the AR pistol forum if you want more information and references (including copies of ATF opinion letters you can keep with your pistol)
https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/The-AR15-PISTOL-INFORMATION-THREAD-/122-200876/ |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 3:04:01 PM EDT
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The first configuration you build it as is what matters. So if you take your stripped receiver and build it first as a rifle it would be illegal to then configure it as a pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, it's better to buy a receiver stripped instead of a complete rifle. That way u can make a pistol or rifle. And even if u make a rifle it's not registered as anything. So later you can make it into a pistol. Right? |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 3:52:47 AM EDT
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As a practical matter, if you get a stripped lower and it is a DIY build, who knows what your first configuration is? |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:07:34 AM EDT
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As a practical matter, if you get a stripped lower and it is a DIY build, who knows what your first configuration is? From a practical standpoint this is like talking 922r laws, nobody gives a shit but the internet. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 9:26:55 PM EDT
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From what I gather if it's stripped from factory (assuming it's sold as stripped lower) whatever the initial configuration is that's what it should be and stay.
I'm no lawyer but this is how I go about stripped lowers |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 9:38:55 PM EDT
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As a practical matter, if you get a stripped lower and it is a DIY build, who knows what your first configuration is? Lying to a federal agent is a worse penalty than being a stupid fuckwad who built a pistol from a rifle. 
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Posted: 2/1/2020 11:51:57 PM EDT
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From what I gather if it's stripped from factory (assuming it's sold as stripped lower) whatever the initial configuration is that's what it should be and stay. I'm no lawyer but this is how I go about stripped lowers it can go back and forth if it was a pistol first. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 2:46:33 PM EDT
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From what I gather if it's stripped from factory (assuming it's sold as stripped lower) whatever the initial configuration is that's what it should be and stay. I'm no lawyer but this is how I go about stripped lowers
ATF Ruling 2011-4 Pistols Configured from Rifles; Rifles Configured from Pistols |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 4:11:04 PM EDT
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You need to gather from more accurate sources of information.
ATF Ruling 2011-4 Pistols Configured from Rifles; Rifles Configured from Pistols US v. Thompson-Center Arms Co, 504 U.S. 505 (1992) |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 9:27:58 PM EDT
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And also consider there are higher authority than ATF rulings US v. Thompson-Center Arms Co, 504 U.S. 505 (1992) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You need to gather from more accurate sources of information.
ATF Ruling 2011-4 Pistols Configured from Rifles; Rifles Configured from Pistols US v. Thompson-Center Arms Co, 504 U.S. 505 (1992)  I'll give you a hint....it's IN the ruling.
USSC decisions don't automatically change federal law or ATF regs. The Thompson Center decision was handed down in 1992.....and didn't change federal law. It was still "once a rifle, always a rifle" until the ATF Ruling in 2011. |
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