Not just Joker...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/

Rebels was just a continuation of the Clone Wars. It made the galaxy far too small to have all those movers and shakers from the Clone Wars show up on what was an otherwise insignificant world that suddenly became the Empire's sole attention. They just shoehorned in Ashoka and the Clonesand Leia and R2 and 3P0 and Tarkin and Vader instead of just playing in the GFFA and only using new characters and places on the edge.

I don't get the whole tracking the fleet thing like it's new. The Empire tracked the Falcon when it escaped from DS1. It was a specific plot point when Vader and Tarkin mention it as better working or it was Vader's ass. Obi-Wan places a tracker on Slave 1 to track it to Geonosis in AOTC. The Empire even tried tracking the Falcon in ESB when they thought it went to hyperspace and instead hooked to the back of the Star Destroyer (and nobody heard it clamp on or looked out a porhole on a neighboring ship and said "hey, that's not supposed to be there. Hey Chief, check this out!").

How can they fix it?  Unless episode 9 starts with Luke waking up in a cold sweat, and saying, "what a nightmare" Star Wars is dead.

Jar Jar returns

R1 could have been so much better if they didn't cram in the Daddy Issues crap, the not-a-Jedi Jedi, the Daddy who designed a backdoor to destroy the DS instead of it just being a design flaw that gave the Rebels a chance, R2 and 3PO, survivors of the battle just being at Yavin, the Rebels being ready to throw in the towel at the first sign of difficulty, and Tarkin's project not really being Tarkin's project.

Star Wars died with TFA. R1 was just Disney going through its pockets for loose change. TLJ is Disney raping its corpse.

I have to agree, they are destroying it with all the girl power bullshit and SJW shit.

Nah, they've always been special

He embraced his inner dark side, frustrated that evil Disney cut his stupid expanded universe storyline, so now he makes up a backstory to once again promote obvious good guys saving galaxy from obvious evil totalitarian govt are bad guys,  and the obvious bad guys who constantly work to destroy entire planets are good guys.

I'd still say the Last Jedi was pretty good for a movie that solely exists to sell dolls and other children's toys.

Pretty much what they new books said.

They had a tracking beacon on the Falcon in Star Wars.

In ESB they plotted possible destinations along the Falcon's last known trajectory.

People are making Star Wars films when they have no understanding or love for it.

Maybe they can drop Fat Leia's coffin on her?

Damn Hutts get uglier and uglier

It was an awesome movie.

I mean, not the plot, the sub-plots, the side quests, the random character introductions, or the filler nonsense that turned a ninety minute movie into two and a half hours of "meh."

The special effects though...

I'm looking forward to Star Wars 36. I think it's going to be a classic.

I can see it now Ep IX, full of girl power, Pink laser swords and fat asians.

I want to know who green-lighted that character Rose and actress so we can all take our REVENGE on them (in a non-violent and humane way).

Character is there for the Asian audience.  This film has had the demographics researched the hell out of it.

Did the code breaker guy remind anyone else of the taxi driver in Scrooged?

Like George Lucas with the original trilogy 1st draft scripts and then fully with the prequels.

I'll give you one hint:

Poor Jabba Desilijic Tiure.... cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Still holding for General Hux...

You guys need some happy beeps.

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All the people in this thread griping about the movies should be echoing this but they're fixated on shit that doesn't matter, or can't get past "they SJW'd muh lead role!"

At the end of ROTJ the universe is in a pretty good spot, the movies offer very little explanation on how shit got to the point it's at in Ep7. Thanks to this thread I see there is some explanations in the new novels but I'm not the type to check out much beyond the films, and neither are the majority of SW fans. In the past the movies did a good enough job explaining things that you didn't NEED to read the books or play the games to make sense of it. The books and games just helped flesh out the universe.

I see a lot of people are pissed about the casino "side quest" and at the same time are pissed about not developing characters. That's character development, but "space horses" so fuck that. You're also missing how it all tied together. At the end when the resistance is in their base and they send their distress signal they say "no one is responding" and it's mentioned elsewhere that they need to "spark" the people into fighting the FO. That's what the whole Canto Bight part was about. The slave boy at the end using the force to pick up his broom, holding the broom like a light saber, staring into space watching a ship enter hyperspace, and admiring his Resistance ring are all there to show you that Finn and Rose (aka the resistance) are inspiring people. It was also an opportunity to introduce a new place/world (which is a SW theme, and I remember loving it when a new place was introduced in the other films. It just sparked your imagination about the history and where it fits within the universe you already knew.) Poe and Finn (and Rose) coming up with the plan to save the Resistance was part of the character development, and Poe's tendency for action in particular was being contrasted against Leia and Holdo's tendency to "live to fight another day". That was something the movie pushed from the beginning scene where Poe's squadron took out the FO Dreadnaught up until the salt speeder scene on Crait where Poe called off the assault on the big cannon. I think the film was trying to establish that the Resistance wouldn't win by throwing it's members into the meat grinder. This is also why Leia takes control back from Poe when she finds out about the mutiny, and I would assume Holdo's plan. This is also why Rose crashes into Finn before he can kamikaze into the cannon, they're trying to show the audience and the characters that there are other options than suicide missions(which were often what happened in the past films).

The Rose character... I honestly figured she was just going to end up as a an expendable character to kill when they go on their side quest. Guess I was wrong, but I shouldn't have been. Nothing about her character is interesting.

The DJ character... My first thought when he said could crack the FO codes was that he was the guy they were actually after, and the guy in the casino with the symbol(i forgot what they called it) took it from him somehow. It's possible that the guy in the white coat was just some guy who designed stuff for the FO and could have helped Finn & Rose, but I don't see how Maz would know him. Maz knowing DJ makes more sense.

Luke...  His death was disappointing. Not that I really cared that he lived or died, but it just seemed weak. I personally would have liked to see him kick some ass, like the Vader scene from RO, and go out in style. I guess that could have been a bit unrealistic though, since he was a whiny bitch in all the other movies as well.

Leia... Force flying herself back to the ship(or even if Kylo or Luke did it) just looked cringey. They could have let her die there and I think everybody would understand, considering her death IRL. She was fine for the rest of the movie, but I think we're going to be in for a all CGI Leia in Ep9 and it's going to be weird, just like in RO.

Ackbar... Should have survived the bridge explosion and gone down with the ship instead of Holdo. Then they could have kept Holdo around to fill in Leia's spot in Ep9.

Holdo... I got the SJW vibe here but it was slight IMO. Her costume was out of place like mentioned, not so much if she was just some civilian on a random planet, but as a admiral in the Resistance. Not discussing her plan with Poe gave the SJW vibe, not so much because it was an unrealistic premise but because of the dialogue.

Rey & Ren... I like the "Darth Emo" name for Ren. They really should have done a better job at making him a badass, because at this point I don't think anybody considers him a real threat like Vader or Maul. Especially when in TFA some random junker girl with a lightsaber kicks his ass. I like Rey as a character, I think they just did a horrible job of giving her force abilities with no training. That was just lazy writing, you have to assume she has so much raw power/talent that she can do things without training and then you have to ignore that she was unaware of it all until 7 started. It contradicts what we've seen in Ep1, and even at the end of Ep8.

Overall I really enjoyed the movie, and I found myself grinning like a idiot seeing all the familiar stuff from the original three movies. It wasn't without it's faults but what do you expect?

Can't embed but think this gif sums up SW SJW um.. SW TLJ perfectly.

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That pretty much sums it up.

Who was Rey's parents. Was it what Kylo said that her parents were just a bunch of pricks said sold her for gas money?

"Beer money"

He told her that they were just alcoholics willing to do anything to get their next fix, including selling their own daughter into quasi-slavery.

I still think she's a Kenobe. Satine's granddaughter.

the broom

Just got back from watching it. I liked it. A lot.

General Dennis Leary Looking Guy is the worst tactician in the history of ever.

Fans Start Petition To Remove 'The Last Jedi' From 'Star Wars' Canon

https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-have-disney-strike-star-wars-episode-viii-from-the-official-canon

Kathleen Kennedy laughs at your petition while she rolls around in the hundreds of millions this film made.

Her money will do her no good in the spice mines of Kessel.

It’s hard to take Kylo Ren seriously when his character is full of faggotry. They need to make him much darker in order for it to work IMO.

Why the fuck didn't that rebel general chick just lightspeed the entire command ship into the big-ass battlecruiser on remote control--could've saved ALL OF THE REBELS.
Instead...85% of them are killed BEFORE she decides to do it.

Oh...I get it now;  only about 40 surivors could fit on the millenium falcon and escape at the end.  Shit.  I shoulda known.
There was no way to evacuate like 500 people....so just kill 'em all.

Maybe Kathleen Kennedy is the true Sith Lord?

Damn You Young Han Solo Books, I got that reference.

Yeah, everything I've read ITT and elsewhere has confirmed my initial inclination. Hard Pass.

Star Wars ended when Grand Admiral Thrawn killed everyone with cloaked VSDs, and Asteroids, including the Vong.

Succeeded by Soontir Fel, and his son.

Maybe she's just a hack cunt who only cares about dollar signs and her agenda and not about the quality of the product.

No wonder Disney paired up with EA.

A bit nsfw (gore and drugs), and talking about the wrong company, but it fits.

At least GW doesn't hate your favorite IP so bad they said fuck 30 years of established story, Rocks Fall, Archaon Wins.

Nagash? Drachenfels? Malekith? Sigmar? Mazdumundi? Teclis? fuck 'em. Chaos Wins, get fucked, thanks for the money, now buy this new game.

Oh wait...

Yes they did.

Which makes me worried for what they're about to do to the 40k universe...

The Golden Throne fails and the Emperor both dies and stays dead and is reincarnated as a stoner. Hilarity ensues.

Its not my issue with Chaos winning, it was always down to Nagash or Chaos, pretty much... its how crappily it was done, which ties it back to the Thread Subject.

There are plenty of good female characters, both good and evil in the SWEU (which prior to the Disney takeover, was "Official Canon" unless contradicted by a Movie, or was labeled "Infinities"), but instead lets just shit all over the IP, long established characters/plot points, hamfist in some bullshit story, and piss all over the fans.