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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:58:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:58:32 AM EDT
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All righty then
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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:58:41 AM EDT
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You are not wrong, the music is great too.
Oddly enough as fictional spacecraft go I really like the lines of the Reliant. 
  Enterprise vs Reliant - Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 8:59:33 AM EDT
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STII was and always shall be the best of the OST movies.
no disrespect to the newer ST reboot movies which are also fun to watch, but STII is still a great movie to watch |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:02:18 AM EDT
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100% agreed.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:05:13 AM EDT
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I might dispute that it is the finest ever made... Partly because it's not really so much of a science fiction story as a story set in the future. With a few changes you could have set the movie in the age of sail and kept the basic story.
That being said, it the best of the Star Trek movies and a great movie for the reasons you mention. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:06:45 AM EDT
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Best sci-fi movie ever is kind of a stretch because that's a huge general category that includes ET, Aliens, The Matrix, Terminator, Blade Runner, etc...
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:09:18 AM EDT
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I don't know if it was the best, but it's right up there in the top 5 for me.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:09:30 AM EDT
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Forget SW A New Hope whose sole motif was local boy makes good/zero to hero. TWOK combines so many elements from Moby Dick, A Tale of Two Cities, not to mention a WWII submarine movies, and blends them seamlessly together in a movie so power and strong if you didn't tear up at the end when you first saw it, you probably drink soy milk and have a man bun and watch Friends reruns on Netflix. It has powerful themes such as sacrifice and deals with friendship and aging and redemption. It's character arc of Kirk going from a daring flyboy breaking all the rules to learning that life (and death) doesn't escape anyone is so much more powerful than blowing up a giant super weapon. Best of all, in today's age of crappy movie making, it didn't destroy the characters the movie was based on or re-imagine them to be something other than what they were in the original series. It treated women as actual characters who were strong and smart like Dr. Marcus yet capable of loving or Lt. Saavik who was not some Mary Sue, but a fallible female character capable of learning and growing through actual experience during the story. That's all I got. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:09:52 AM EDT
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Or not.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:11:06 AM EDT
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It was a tremendous work that packed a lot into one movie yet told it all very well.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:12:36 AM EDT
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Ice cream is a dish best served cold.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:13:03 AM EDT
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2001: A Space Odyssey 50th anniversary 4k HDR disagrees.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:13:23 AM EDT
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Best Star Trek movie? Yes. Best sci fi movie? Heeeeell no. Do you even watch sci fi??
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:18:24 AM EDT
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I must agree it is a great movie. I’ve enjoyed the Kelvin timeline movies, and TNG, but there is just something special about TOS cast.
That said over the years I’ve come to enjoy ST The Motion Picture as well. I’m not saying it’s great, but I think it’s a better movie than it’s given credit for. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:19:58 AM EDT
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I must agree it is a great movie. I’ve enjoyed the Kelvin timeline movies, and TNG, but there is just something special about TOS cast. That said over the years I’ve come to enjoy ST The Motion Picture as well. I’m not saying it’s great, but I think it’s a better movie than it’s given credit for. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:22:04 AM EDT
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 Chaka Khan - I Feel for You (1984) |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:22:32 AM EDT
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Best scene in star trek, preparing for battle. Also the engineering suits were a nice addition but get dropped in later movies.
 Star Trek 2 wrath of khan battle station |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:26:45 AM EDT
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Clearly you haven't seen The Terminator, Predator, Backdraft, Glory, Alien, Aliens, Robocop, Robocop 2, i could go on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:27:59 AM EDT
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Clearly you haven't seen The Terminator, Predator, Backdraft, Glory, Alien, Aliens, Robocop, Robocop 2, i could go on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:39:14 AM EDT
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STII was and always shall be the best of the OST movies. no disrespect to the newer ST reboot movies which are also fun to watch, but STII is still a great movie to watch With the utmost disrespect to the newer ST reboot movies. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:51:05 AM EDT
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Clearly you haven't seen The Terminator, Predator, Backdraft, Glory, Alien, Aliens, Robocop, Robocop 2, i could go on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:57:46 AM EDT
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Are you guys all in a room together smoking the good stuff?
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:58:26 AM EDT
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Forbidden Planet is probably one of the best ever made.
The Andromeda Strain (The original 1970's version) is one of the best, if not the best scientifically accurate science fiction movies. War of the Worlds (1950's) hard to beat. 5 Million years to Earth (or Quatermass and the Pit) very well done movie. 2001 a Space Odyssey. Ground breaking in so many ways. There are a lot of very good science fiction movies out there - Wrath of Khan was good and enjoyable, but hardly the best. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:05:55 AM EDT
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I watched it two days ago. It still holds up for effects and the story is great. It's definitely my favorite ST movie. I remember when I was a kid when Spock died. I couldn't believe it as I always thought the main cast would never get killed. Then they kicked us again the next movie with the destruction of 1701.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:08:22 AM EDT
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Let's not forget this oscar-worthy performance by Captain Kirk
 Spock's Funeral - Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (7/8) Movie CLIP (1982) HD |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:11:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I must agree it is a great movie. I’ve enjoyed the Kelvin timeline movies, and TNG, but there is just something special about TOS cast. That said over the years I’ve come to enjoy ST The Motion Picture as well. I’m not saying it’s great, but I think it’s a better movie than it’s given credit for.  Star Trek The Motion Picture 1979 (Directors CUT) Klingon Battle |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:13:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Forbidden Planet is probably one of the best ever made. The Andromeda Strain (The original 1970's version) is one of the best, if not the best scientifically accurate science fiction movies. War of the Worlds (1950's) hard to beat. 5 Million years to Earth (or Quatermass and the Pit) very well done movie. 2001 a Space Odyssey. Ground breaking in so many ways. There are a lot of very good science fiction movies out there - Wrath of Khan was good and enjoyable, but hardly the best. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:17:48 AM EDT
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Yup still the best of the original Trek movies. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:17:52 AM EDT
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Well It certainly was much better than the first one. I don't think it's possible to sit through STtMP without falling asleep.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:19:53 AM EDT
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The best Trek to be sure but the best sci-fi? Naw.
My favorite is still Serenity but there are so many good ones out there... |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:23:39 AM EDT
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Best Star Trek movie? Yes. Best sci fi movie? Heeeeell no. Do you even watch sci fi?? |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:27:29 AM EDT
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Sure if you like privileged white males mansplaining, with a sexual predator as the hero who has to face the child he didn’t know he had because his mother had no access to abortions.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:29:46 AM EDT
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Sure if you like privileged white males mansplaining, with a sexual predator as the hero who has to face the child he didn't know he had because his mother had no access to abortions. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:30:39 AM EDT
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Interstellar laughs at you.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:32:24 AM EDT
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It is a upper tier Sci Fi movie, but not the best...hard to define that.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:32:59 AM EDT
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Sure if you like privileged white males mansplaining, with a sexual predator as the hero who has to face the child he didn’t know he had because his mother had no access to abortions.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:35:10 AM EDT
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I could use some of that Retinax-5!
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:37:14 AM EDT
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Forget SW A New Hope whose sole motif was local boy makes good/zero to hero. TWOK combines so many elements from Moby Dick, A Tale of Two Cities, not to mention a WWII submarine movies, and blends them seamlessly together in a movie so power and strong if you didn't tear up at the end when you first saw it, you probably drink soy milk and have a man bun and watch Friends reruns on Netflix. It has powerful themes such as sacrifice and deals with friendship and aging and redemption. It's character arc of Kirk going from a daring flyboy breaking all the rules to learning that life (and death) doesn't escape anyone is so much more powerful than blowing up a giant super weapon. Best of all, in today's age of crappy movie making, it didn't destroy the characters the movie was based on or re-imagine them to be something other than what they were in the original series. It treated women as actual characters who were strong and smart like Dr. Marcus yet capable of loving or Lt. Saavik who was not some Mary Sue, but a fallible female character capable of learning and growing through actual experience during the story. That's all I got.  Leeloo hahaha |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:37:23 AM EDT
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Sure if you like privileged white males mansplaining, with a sexual predator as the hero who has to face the child he didn’t know he had because his mother had no access to abortions. 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:37:36 AM EDT
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FPNI again (no pun intended)
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:47:02 AM EDT
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Sure if you like privileged white males mansplaining, with a sexual predator as the hero who has to face the child he didn’t know he had because his mother had no access to abortions.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 10:47:16 AM EDT
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Best sci-fi movie ever is kind of a stretch because that's a huge general category that includes |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:05:28 AM EDT
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It did have one really good scene.
Kahn: Give me the genesis device right now! Kirk: We're working on it. Kahn: Give it to me right now! Kirk: Are you ready? Here it comes. (Shoots Kahn's ship to shit with phasers and photon torpedoes.) |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:06:01 AM EDT
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Certainly the best of TOS based movies. Followed by The Undiscovered Country. I like to pretend ST IV and V never happened.
First Contact is the best of the STTNG based movies. The new Start Trek movies don't do much for me. I've been watching the new Picard series. I think it's very well done. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:07:48 AM EDT
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TotL rip-off of Moby Dick.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:10:15 AM EDT
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You might be blind and probably can't hear very well.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:17:40 AM EDT
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Good movie yes, best sci-fi ever, no. Really good Sci-fi tells a story about current problems in a future setting that allows us to examine our reaction to those problems in new-light.
It helps to remove our biases in the way we solve the problems today by changing the context. Star Trek has successfully done this as a series, but I don't know that Star Trek 2, accomplished that goal. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:19:35 AM EDT
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Good movie yes, best sci-fi ever, no. Really good Sci-fi tells a story about current problems in a future setting that allows us to examine our reaction to those problems in new-light. It helps to remove our biases in the way we solve the problems today by changing the context. Star Trek has successfully done this as a series, but I don't know that Star Trek 2, accomplished that goal. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 11:21:24 AM EDT
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it's mind-blowing when you watch ST:TMP and realize it was all models, no CGI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I must agree it is a great movie. I’ve enjoyed the Kelvin timeline movies, and TNG, but there is just something special about TOS cast. That said over the years I’ve come to enjoy ST The Motion Picture as well. I’m not saying it’s great, but I think it’s a better movie than it’s given credit for. |
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