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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:29:53 PM EDT
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In medieval times this used to be called "The Rack".
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:31:17 PM EDT
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I hang all the time to stay stretched, feels good man.
That being said, with decompression what stops you from recompressing the minute your spine is under vertical load again? I've been in the traction machine a bunch, did nothing long term. A stretching regime is much better: hamstrings, hips etc ... |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hang all the time to stay stretched, feels good man. That being said, with decompression what stops you from recompressing the minute your spine is under vertical load again? I've been in the traction machine a bunch, did nothing long term. A stretching regime is much better: hamstrings, hips etc ... That was one question I forgot to ask him. But I definitely will at my first session. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:44:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:47:10 PM EDT
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If you remember please post reply, I'm curious what the pitch is. I been through the gamut of specialists and the consensus was that disc cannot be treated without surgery. There's simply no way to "heal" a disk in a traditional sense of the word. The best you can do is prevent irritation (inflammation) and reinjury, this is achieved through overall physical fitness.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:47:29 PM EDT
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So years of gravity pulling down on my spine is going to be counteracted by 15 minutes in this machine?
Uh-huh, sure. Hell, OP, give me $1400 and I can fix your back with my divining rods in one visit. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:48:59 PM EDT
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Teeter hangups for me. Came back from a L4 herniation with it.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:50:20 PM EDT
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Guessing isn't good if you are in constant pain in your back.
Get an MRI |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:02:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guessing isn't good if you are in constant pain in your back. Get an MRI I had the option to get an MRI, but the X-ray showing the part of the spine (I don’t know what it’s called) “compressed” or closer together than all the rest was good enough for me. Both my original chiropractor and this specialist all guessed that was the case before the X-ray. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Teeter hangups for me. Came back from a L4 herniation with it. What are teeter hang ups? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you remember please post reply, I'm curious what the pitch is. I been through the gamut of specialists and the consensus was that disc cannot be treated without surgery. There's simply no way to "heal" a disk in a traditional sense of the word. The best you can do is prevent irritation (inflammation) and reinjury, this is achieved through overall physical fitness. I will ask and @ you My first treatment is Monday I believe. If I understood and retained what he told me, was in my case it’s just compressed so if they can change that the disc will go back to normal. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had the option to get an MRI, but the X-ray showing the part of the spine (I don’t know what it’s called) “compressed” or closer together than all the rest was good enough for me. Both my original chiropractor and this specialist all guessed that was the case before the X-ray. You mean a disk is compressed or bulging ? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:09:19 PM EDT
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This thread is relevant to my interests.
I heard a pop in my back after getting stacked in BJJ (should've bailed on the submission) and I've been hurting for the last four days. Hoping it's not too bad. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:12:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean a disk is compressed or bulging ? I mine is compressed. Neither person thinks I could operate as I have been if it’s bulging. But I am not sure I quite grasp it all. If a disc is compressed, doesn’t it bulge? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:15:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is relevant to my interests. I heard a pop in my back after getting stacked in BJJ (should've bailed on the submission) and I've been hurting for the last four days. Hoping it's not too bad. BJJ was the only thing he cautioned me on doing during treatment because of that right there. Also he said if I lift overhead I must have superb form and preferably at least 5 reps. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mine is compressed. Neither person thinks I could operate as I have been if it’s bulging. But I am not sure I quite grasp it all. If a disc is compressed, doesn’t it bulge? Not always no Sometimes the fluid just dries up as we age and the disc can compress A bulging one slipped or herniated You really can't tell with an xray which is which because it's not always that obvious |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:30:42 PM EDT
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Does it hurt in your ass cheek if you tap it
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:37:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both my original chiropractor and this specialist all guessed that was the case before the X-ray. Because all chiropractors do is "guess?" Lower back hurts? Oh, yeah, that's definitely some compression going on there. Upper back hurts? Oh, yeah, definitely compression. Shoulder hurts? Oh, yeah, compression for sure. Let me do the same 3 procedures I do on every single patient. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:00:03 PM EDT
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Waste of money. Insurance will pay for physical therapy and most places have a traction machine that does the same thing. Guess what? It’s only temporary.
The best thing for your back is strengthen your core, which will be a lot of what physical therapy will help do, along with getting rid of the trigger points that are causing your muscles to spasm and tighten. This is also only going to work as long as your keep doing the exercises after your appointments end. The trap is you start feeling better and quit going or quit doing the exercise, it is easy to do. If core strengthening and stretching doesn’t help, get an MRI and truly understand the problem. Chiropractors are unsupervised physical therapist moonlighting as doctors. There is a reason a lot of their work isn’t covered by insurance. I’d buy a $200 inversion table on Amazon before dropping $2800 on a “miracle back package” |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are teeter hang ups? https://teeter.com/product/fitspine-x3-inversion-table/ Slowly worked my way to hanging completely vertically, then increase the duration, but never for too long. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:21:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:34:10 PM EDT
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I drive 10,000 miles a month bouncing around in a premium air ride seat.
feelsgoodman.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:40:06 PM EDT
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Better watch out for SPECTRE agents…
 Bond gets stuck in spinal traction machine |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:44:22 PM EDT
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Another come in a shitload of times scam like Chiros. No wonder he recommended it
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI think I beat you by like 5 1/2 hours. 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:57:00 PM EDT
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For $2800 bucks you could get a nice Warn winch and a couple of tree straps and just have your wife run the winch controller.
Get you pulled straight in no time, and you get to keep the winch. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:00:27 PM EDT
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Btw, for anybody interested Teeter has an active coupon code right now "SAVE5G91". It'll take $40 off a Dex 2
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:08:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Waste of money. Insurance will pay for physical therapy and most places have a traction machine that does the same thing. Guess what? It's only temporary. The best thing for your back is strengthen your core, which will be a lot of what physical therapy will help do, along with getting rid of the trigger points that are causing your muscles to spasm and tighten. This is also only going to work as long as your keep doing the exercises after your appointments end. The trap is you start feeling better and quit going or quit doing the exercise, it is easy to do. If core strengthening and stretching doesn't help, get an MRI and truly understand the problem. Chiropractors are unsupervised physical therapist moonlighting as doctors. There is a reason a lot of their work isn't covered by insurance. I'd buy a $200 inversion table on Amazon before dropping $2800 on a "miracle back package" 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does it hurt in your ass cheek if you tap it I’m not in pain to the touch at all. There’s nothing you can do touching wise to hurt it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 11:55:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For $2800 bucks you could get a nice Warn winch and a couple of tree straps and just have your wife run the winch controller. Get you pulled straight in no time, and you get to keep the winch. I’m not married but I’d bet my ex wife would be happy to help me out with this. 
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Posted: 11/25/2022 12:28:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an inversion table that does the same thing. It was a lot cheaper, and really works. @Sixxxgun What kind and how long have you used it? I’ve had back issues since a bad bike wreck around 13, but have noticed I’ve lost about 1.5” in height since doing office work the past 30 years and wonder if spinal decompression could help both. |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 8:38:17 PM EDT
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Decorating for Christmas so the missus has a mess right now. @D_J I’ve had it a couple of months. It was free for me, as I had a friend that was too lazy to get on the thing and wanted to get rid of it.
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Posted: 11/25/2022 10:11:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2022 10:16:31 PM EDT
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 Thunderball  Thunderball (1965) - 'First time I've felt really safe all day...' |
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Posted: 11/25/2022 10:43:23 PM EDT
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25-30 years ago it was called VAX-D. Nothing new.
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Posted: 11/25/2022 11:05:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2022 10:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Decorating for Christmas so the missus has a mess right now. @D_J I’ve had it a couple of months. It was free for me, as I had a friend that was too lazy to get on the thing and wanted to get rid of it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99195/image_jpg-2613771.JPG Thanks. I have one on my wish list and it’s a same or similar model. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 10:56:18 AM EDT
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 Video: Chinese hang themselves on neck traction devices in new trend |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:00:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At physical therapy I use a traction device. Strap holds me to the bed. Belt around my hips I attached to a machine that slowly pulls on it. Yep. It looks like a fancy "chiro-ized" version of traction...just not covered by insurance so they can get the $$$ When I was in PT for herniated L4/L5 they ended every session with hot compresses and traction...put me to sleep every time. I loved it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:02:25 AM EDT
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Snake oil…. Putting a bandaid on a fix that needs REAL physical therapy and work put in on your end.
Core strength |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:03:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha. That’s what I said. His response was that the overall, across the US, was 86%. But based on my symptoms and the X-ray, and his office track record, it’s 90% The people who don’t have as much success, are those who this is their last resort. Literally their last stitch effort before surgery. I’ve been fighting stiffness or a Charlie horse type feeling for like 3 to 6 months. Only been seeing chiropractor daily for like 2 weeks before he told me this might help. Not sure if that means my odds are better or I just have less patience than others. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dr says 90 ad says 86. Lies already Haha. That’s what I said. His response was that the overall, across the US, was 86%. But based on my symptoms and the X-ray, and his office track record, it’s 90% The people who don’t have as much success, are those who this is their last resort. Literally their last stitch effort before surgery. I’ve been fighting stiffness or a Charlie horse type feeling for like 3 to 6 months. Only been seeing chiropractor daily for like 2 weeks before he told me this might help. Not sure if that means my odds are better or I just have less patience than others. I remember reading a research study that said up to 90% of back pain heal or get better on their own. Also, what happens to decompression when you get up? |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:06:03 AM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:09:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not in pain to the touch at all. There’s nothing you can do touching wise to hurt it. So chances are your disc isn't touching your sciatic which is good news. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember reading a research study that said up to 90% of back pain heal or get better on their own. Also, what happens to decompression when you get up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dr says 90 ad says 86. Lies already Haha. That’s what I said. His response was that the overall, across the US, was 86%. But based on my symptoms and the X-ray, and his office track record, it’s 90% The people who don’t have as much success, are those who this is their last resort. Literally their last stitch effort before surgery. I’ve been fighting stiffness or a Charlie horse type feeling for like 3 to 6 months. Only been seeing chiropractor daily for like 2 weeks before he told me this might help. Not sure if that means my odds are better or I just have less patience than others. I remember reading a research study that said up to 90% of back pain heal or get better on their own. Also, what happens to decompression when you get up? That’s a good question that I will ask when I go to my first session. Also what happens the next time I do a heavy snatch? He said I have no restrictions during therapy only that if I do any over head lifts, form has to impeccable and nothing more than a 5 rep max or so. I thought of a lot of questions after my initial consultation that I wish I would have asked. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So chances are your disc isn't touching your sciatic which is good news. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m not in pain to the touch at all. There’s nothing you can do touching wise to hurt it. So chances are your disc isn't touching your sciatic which is good news. From what I can tell and I’ve learned, it’s intermittent. I can get it to almost not hurt at all with no pain. And then I’ll move a certain way and the pain will shoot through me. Also I can use a lacrosse ball to get it to relax and go away, go work out, and be pretty much pain free for a half a work day. That’s what I’ve been doing to continue to lift and jiu jitsu. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dr. Ron Johnson calls it the 'ring-dinger'. Not going to lie, looks promising. Link left cold on purpose. https://www.shopdocjohnson.com/s/search?sort=-currpop&o_g_id=14225&gclid=Cj0KCQiAj4ecBhD3ARIsAM4Q_jFGKqLLJ37pTsJbHH_pYyTepanFK0cdpMB220IGIJWRSzIoGGETJ2MaAqLkEALw_wcB |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:44:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In medieval times this used to be called "The Rack" .  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:47:40 PM EDT
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083VVXSG8?tag=arfcom00-20
Coulda saved yourself a few bucks. Inversion tables have been around since before Batman hung around like a bat. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hang all the time to stay stretched, feels good man. That being said, with decompression what stops you from recompressing the minute your spine is under vertical load again? I've been in the traction machine a bunch, did nothing long term. A stretching regime is much better: hamstrings, hips etc ... Are you saying we’re all subjects of the laws of gravity? Inconceivable! |
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