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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:39:15 PM EDT
https://houston.texasguntrader.com/category/569/For-Sale-Trade-Guns-for-Sale/listings/2038038/%E2%80%9CMade-In-Texas%E2%80%9D-Suppressors.html
For sale is the “Made In Texas” suppressors. They are manufactured in Texas. These are the suppressors that a tax stamp is not required as long as they stay in Texas. Law went into effect in September. The following sizes are available: 1/2”thread x 10” $750 1/2”thread x 6” $700 Text (number removed)  ETA: don’t buy this |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:41:53 PM EDT
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It could be fun to text an AFT agent at all hours I suppose.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:42:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:46:17 PM EDT
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Can someone bring me up to speed on what's going on here? Are supressors a non-NFA item all of a sudden as long as they're manufactured and remain in Texas?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone bring me up to speed on what's going on here? Are supressors a non-NFA item all of a sudden as long as they're manufactured and remain in Texas? Someone would, but they’re preoccupied with Colin Kaepernick at the moment. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:53:57 PM EDT
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It's so legal it glows.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:54:24 PM EDT
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Not today Mr.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone bring me up to speed on what's going on here? Are supressors a non-NFA item all of a sudden as long as they're manufactured and remain in Texas? Constitutionally? Yes. In practice? Lmao |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:55:21 PM EDT
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Wasn’t it in Kansas or somewhere those dudes got fucked for doing essentially the exact same thing?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:57:24 PM EDT
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Nope.
Maybe cash only, with a drop point. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 1:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t it in Kansas or somewhere those dudes got fucked for doing essentially the exact same thing? Kansas and Montana both. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:02:44 PM EDT
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Any minute some idiot will be along to cheer on Texas like it did something huge for gun owners with this flimsy law.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:02:53 PM EDT
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and now its on the atfs radar, thanks ar15.com!
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and now its on the atfs radar, thanks ar15.com! |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:06:17 PM EDT
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Ok, ATF man.
Your turn Florida. Kansas tried this and look what happened for those two smucks. Missouri is a sanctuary state, but they haven't given the government their Fleet drink yet, to be that much shit free. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:10:00 PM EDT
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If, I mean “IF”, I lived in Texas, I most likely would be making my own suppressors for personal use on private property. Not to sell, not to borrow out, and certainly not showing it off online.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:10:19 PM EDT
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Ought to be able to buy them from the corner Jiffy store.
Cash and carry. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:17:14 PM EDT
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The left did it with pot, but alas, we have the side that follows the rules. We are above it.
The feds thank you for your compliance citizen. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:20:41 PM EDT
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Kinda pricey, might as well buy a 50 State can.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone bring me up to speed on what's going on here? Are supressors a non-NFA item all of a sudden as long as they're manufactured and remain in Texas? TN is similar we can legally own MG's........BUT Fed.gov says fuck common man 
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kansas and Montana both. Its not that the intention is bad, but the execution is shit, and republicans should well know better by now. The states are not going to win against the federal gov on the commerce clause. Far too much federal power is built on the commerce clause. If a state were serious about it, they'd remove all references to anything NFA on a state law level, and tell the feds they are free to enforce federal law, but no state resources or employees will be used assist. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:34:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:38:30 PM EDT
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When the states start arresting the feds for violating state laws, then it will mean something.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:41:27 PM EDT
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That ad is positively glowing.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not that the intention is bad, but the execution is shit, and republicans should well know better by now. The states are not going to win against the federal gov on the commerce clause. Far too much federal power is built on the commerce clause. If a state were serious about it, they'd remove all references to anything NFA on a state law level, and tell the feds they are free to enforce federal law, but no state resources or employees will be used assist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kansas and Montana both. Its not that the intention is bad, but the execution is shit, and republicans should well know better by now. The states are not going to win against the federal gov on the commerce clause. Far too much federal power is built on the commerce clause. If a state were serious about it, they'd remove all references to anything NFA on a state law level, and tell the feds they are free to enforce federal law, but no state resources or employees will be used assist. How can the thing the states constituted be more powerful than the entities which delegated it power? 
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:44:35 PM EDT
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This website doesn't let people say what would have to happen for this to become a thing.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:47:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can the thing the states constituted be more powerful than the entities which delegated it power? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/690449238685122560-1961314.png That's a fine question, and part of the reason I love you. 
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:48:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's so legal it glows.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can the thing the states constituted be more powerful than the entities which delegated it power? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/425212/690449238685122560-1961314.png You could ask the same about Dr. Frankenstein and the monster he created. Doesn't change how you may have to battle the monster to survive. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 2:59:50 PM EDT
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I’m going to have to try it!!
It’s like the marijuana laws. MJ is against federal law! States pass laws saying it’s OK. Feds sit back and watch!!  Attached FileLet’s Go Brandon!!! |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This website doesn't let people say what would have to happen for this to become a thing. God will kill a kitten. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:07:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the states start arresting the feds for violating state laws, then it will mean something. My legal theory is: pot laws are wantonly flaunted by every liberal state, is there a difference? |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My legal theory is: pot laws are wantonly flaunted by every liberal state, is there a difference? It works for Weed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:12:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My legal theory is: pot laws are wantonly flaunted by every liberal state, is there a difference? 
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:16:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:17:16 PM EDT
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Over under on it being a honeypot?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:18:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The left did it with pot, but alas, we have the side that follows the rules. We are above it. The feds thank you for your compliance citizen. That's because the Feds have guidelines for legalizing MJ. They'll look the other way as long as the states follow their guidelines. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t it in Kansas or somewhere those dudes got fucked for doing essentially the exact same thing? But Marajuana is good to go? |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:33:27 PM EDT
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The 18th and 19th Amendments.
The gifts that keep on giving. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ought to be able to buy them from the corner Jiffy store. Cash and carry. That's to much hassle. Vending machines would be better, with machineguns also available |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My legal theory is: pot laws are wantonly flaunted by every liberal state, is there a difference? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When the states start arresting the feds for violating state laws, then it will mean something. My legal theory is: pot laws are wantonly flaunted by every liberal state, is there a difference? Of course there's a difference! People would never just ignore federal gun laws and do what they want. Right?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:36:49 PM EDT
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The theory behind the Texas law is that if the suppressor is made in Texas, is sold to a Texas resident, and stays in Texas, then there is no "interstate commerce" involved, and if there is no interstate commerce, then the federal government has no authority to regulate it.
BATF will shoot that theory down by showing that the materials the suppressor is made of were not made in Texas, therefor interstate commerce IS involved, and that the Texas law isn't worth the paper it's printed on. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theory behind the Texas law is that if the suppressor is made in Texas, is sold to a Texas resident, and stays in Texas, then there is no "interstate commerce" involved, and if there is no interstate commerce, then the federal government has no authority to regulate it. BATF will shoot that theory down by showing that the materials the suppressor is made of were not made in Texas, therefor interstate commerce IS involved, and that the Texas law isn't worth the paper it's printed on. They will also appeal to it “affecting commerce”, which was indicated to me by someone who had a conversation with their lawyers. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:40:39 PM EDT
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If federal law trumps state law (as some leftists were saying), wouldn't it mean that any guns laws more restrictive than federal law would also be trumped?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:47:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theory behind the Texas law is that if the suppressor is made in Texas, is sold to a Texas resident, and stays in Texas, then there is no "interstate commerce" involved, and if there is no interstate commerce, then the federal government has no authority to regulate it. BATF will shoot that theory down by showing that the materials the suppressor is made of were not made in Texas, therefor interstate commerce IS involved, and that the Texas law isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Failing that they'll just rely on the age-old argument that since it's entirely intrastate commerce it removes demand from another product which is demonstrably interstate commerce - thus not participating in interstate commerce impacts interstate commerce and it counts as interstate commerce. Really. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 3:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t it in Kansas or somewhere those dudes got fucked for doing essentially the exact same thing?  Attached File@Miami_JBT. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 4:01:03 PM EDT
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I'd be in for one if it came with a Shotgun News DIAS for the AR.
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Posted: 10/31/2021 4:03:20 PM EDT
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I wonder if this law covers a fella machining up a suppressor for his own use?
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Posted: 10/31/2021 4:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Failing that they'll just rely on the age-old argument that since it's entirely intrastate commerce it removes demand from another product which is demonstrably interstate commerce - thus not participating in interstate commerce impacts interstate commerce and it counts as interstate commerce. Really. The Supreme Court basically rubber-stamped that absurd idea in Wickard v. Filburn. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 4:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Failing that they'll just rely on the age-old argument that since it's entirely intrastate commerce it removes demand from another product which is demonstrably interstate commerce - thus not participating in interstate commerce impacts interstate commerce and it counts as interstate commerce. Really. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The theory behind the Texas law is that if the suppressor is made in Texas, is sold to a Texas resident, and stays in Texas, then there is no "interstate commerce" involved, and if there is no interstate commerce, then the federal government has no authority to regulate it. BATF will shoot that theory down by showing that the materials the suppressor is made of were not made in Texas, therefor interstate commerce IS involved, and that the Texas law isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Failing that they'll just rely on the age-old argument that since it's entirely intrastate commerce it removes demand from another product which is demonstrably interstate commerce - thus not participating in interstate commerce impacts interstate commerce and it counts as interstate commerce. Really. That was probably THE worst decision ever by the Supreme Court. [img]/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif[/i |
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