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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:17:34 PM EDT
Century AP-5 Series of MP5 Clones from MKE #GunFest2021


That is fucking ridiculous.

The damn Zenith guns were 1600.00!
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:19:06 PM EDT
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Hard pass from me. Century could fuck up a wet dream.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:19:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:21:11 PM EDT
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At 2800 I'll just pay a little more for a SP5.

Part of the appeal of the MKE guns was a nice clone at a fraction of the price . The Zenith guns were 1600.00
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:22:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:27:32 PM EDT
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$2800? Fuck that.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:30:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:33:14 PM EDT
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I'm never against roller-lock goodness in general but once you've had real HK, the clones are so.... plebeian.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:40:35 PM EDT
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Are monkeys going to be forced labor to make these?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:45:26 PM EDT
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Only if they are drunk
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:49:10 PM EDT
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Ar9 >>>> mp5
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:51:19 PM EDT
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Lol.  Maybe if you are cheap, otherwise no.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:52:19 PM EDT
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I paid like 1689 for an omega

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At 2800 I'll just pay a little more for a SP5.

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Yeah, about that. SP5s are going 5k+ now.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:54:29 PM EDT
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Just go with PSA
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:11:36 PM EDT
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Made me look.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:12:14 PM EDT
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lol got my PTR for $1280 last January.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:16:40 PM EDT
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Wow, I guess they think this market will bear anything.

Or is Century somehow unaware of their own reputation?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:19:04 PM EDT
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Every minute of every day.

Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:20:16 PM EDT
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lol got my PTR for $1280 last January.
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We're laughing too
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:20:49 PM EDT
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Price check their PSL's......   Lol

12 years ago they couldn't give the ones away that had all Romanian parts.

They got down to like $499 at one point.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:26:30 PM EDT
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I find this kind of funny.  I believe Zenith dumped MKE because they said the quality of their MP5s weren't living up to their reputation (this was when they were still around $2k).  Zenith said they'd be working with another vendor or on their own to re-introduce high quality MP5 clones.

Now Century goes and scoops up that partnership with MKE and tries suckering people into a $2,800 MSRP like the quality went way up or something
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:38:38 PM EDT
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holy shit
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:39:25 PM EDT
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I find this kind of funny.  I believe Zenith dumped MKE because they said the quality of their MP5s weren't living up to their reputation (this was when they were still around $2k).  Zenith said they'd be working with another vendor or on their own to re-introduce high quality MP5 clones.

Now Century goes and scoops up that partnership with MKE and tries suckering people into a $2,800 MSRP like the quality went way up or something
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The quality fell hard but its "good enough" for century!

Also, Lmao century getting  dragged in the comment section
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:39:49 PM EDT
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I bought my SP5k for 1800.00 about 2.5 years ago.  It came with 6 mags too.  I was on a lunch break and saw it at one of my local fun shops.  I asked the shop keep the price, expecting 3200.00 or whatever, and he said, "for you, 2000.00."  Honestly, I knew that was even a smoking deal, but jokingly, I replied, "how about 1800.00?" To which he agreed.  It still shocks me to this day.

You don't come across those deals very often, but when you do, it's an absolute must.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:41:19 PM EDT
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Uh, my PTR-9 was like $1k less and hadn't had angry beavers do I don't know what to it.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:41:35 PM EDT
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Century is the importer. They are made by MKE.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:43:15 PM EDT
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No they are not.

Check gunbroker.com
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:23:16 PM EDT
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Just wait till you start enjoying all that Century quality control they are famous for...
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:27:50 PM EDT
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You still get Century's quality control and warranty service.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:29:51 PM EDT
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so i looked up getting an mp5 as kinda a grail gun about 2 months ago. Gunbroker seemed to be the only place to get them and they were all selling for around 3k. So i bought two marcolmar cetme l rifles for just over 2800. That is two roller lock 5.56 rifles that take stanag magazines and have hammer forged nitrided barrels. I could see spending 1600 for an mp5 however its a weak round even with a longer barrel. Might be tits with suppressor however i dont have a suppressor in a pistol caliber. I am happy with the cetme l rifles so far but need trigger time. All i can really say is they didnt like wolf steal case, but brass was 100% and they are beautiful rifles.

There are better guns out there for less than $2800
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:34:21 PM EDT
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I bought my SP5k for 1800.00 about 2.5 years ago.  It came with 6 mags too.  I was on a lunch break and saw it at one of my local fun shops.  I asked the shop keep the price, expecting 3200.00 or whatever, and he said, "for you, 2000.00."  Honestly, I knew that was even a smoking deal, but jokingly, I replied, "how about 1800.00?" To which he agreed.  It still shocks me to this day.

You don't come across those deals very often, but when you do, it's an absolute must.
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I had a local gun shop say something similar about a couple of mac10 machine guns they had on the wall. No prices and i asked. Guy said 3k for the 9mm. I said i would go get the cash right now only to have him back out of the deal. Said the owner wouldnt let them be sold. Guy was ignorant of what they were really worth. Havent been in that place in years.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:40:07 PM EDT
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Literally paid less money for a brand mew SP5 from my dealer on December 23. And it’s the real deal, not made by Turks.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 11:56:04 PM EDT
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Made in Turkey.
Century just imports them.

1st 2 mins of the video tells the story.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:04:33 AM EDT
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Where are you seeing the MSRP?

In the video he skirts the question twice and doesn't give a number.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:08:37 AM EDT
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Your clones must be broken.

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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:18:16 AM EDT
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It was on Atlantic Firearms and Reeves removed the "affordable" part from the description after seeing someone post that, according to the comments.

I got a $4k SP5 off Gunraper last week because I wanted one and I've never seen one in person despite waiting over a year for them to filter out to shops and hoping for less than MSRP.  Even with the sear block I still hope to make it legally work with my transferable autosear.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:59:41 AM EDT
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It was on Atlantic Firearms and Reeves removed the "affordable" part from the description after seeing someone post that, according to the comments.

I got a $4k SP5 off Gunraper last week because I wanted one and I've never seen one in person despite waiting over a year for them to filter out to shops and hoping for less than MSRP.  Even with the sear block I still hope to make it legally work with my transferable autosear.
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Where are you seeing the MSRP?

In the video he skirts the question twice and doesn't give a number.


It was on Atlantic Firearms and Reeves removed the "affordable" part from the description after seeing someone post that, according to the comments.

I got a $4k SP5 off Gunraper last week because I wanted one and I've never seen one in person despite waiting over a year for them to filter out to shops and hoping for less than MSRP.  Even with the sear block I still hope to make it legally work with my transferable autosear.


Gotcha.

If I find an SP5 at retail it is going home with me. No luck so far, still kicking myself for not buying one a couple years back when one was sitting right in front of me.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:07:28 AM EDT
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lol.  April 2016



And my SP5 in Dec 2019.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:10:12 AM EDT
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If Century is selling them I’m not buying, don’t care what they price them at.
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Anyway... on a serious, realistic note. You guys aren't gonna find any licensed MP5s under 2 grand, or an HK under 3, I bet. PTRs? Sure, clones are everywhere.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:13:05 AM EDT
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I'm never against roller-lock goodness in general but once you've had real HK, the clones are so.... plebeian.

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My PTR is every bit as nice as my SP5
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:16:28 AM EDT
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My PTR is every bit as nice as my SP5
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I'm never against roller-lock goodness in general but once you've had real HK, the clones are so.... plebeian.

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My PTR is every bit as nice as my SP5

Except for that stupid rail on top...  Wish they'd offer a gun without it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:18:01 AM EDT
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PSA can suck diz nuts.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:23:45 AM EDT
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So these are the same MKE guns with a different importer and logo, with a $1000 price increase?

Why bother when you can get an HK.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:57:38 AM EDT
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Literally paid less money for a brand mew SP5 from my dealer on December 23. And it’s the real deal, not made by Turks.

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Rodent people are weird.
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Rodent people are weird.
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Literally paid less money for a brand mew SP5 from my dealer on December 23. And it’s the real deal, not made by Turks.

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Rodent people are weird.


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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:02:15 AM EDT
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Literally paid less money for a brand mew SP5 from my dealer on December 23. And it's the real deal, not made by Turks.

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Was the chinchilla included in the deal?
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Literally paid less money for a brand mew SP5 from my dealer on December 23. And it's the real deal, not made by Turks.

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Was the chinchilla included in the deal?


He wasn’t. He does like guns though, and he inspects everything I do in my gun room.

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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 5:06:49 AM EDT
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no ar9 is superior to roller delay. Especially not a cheap blowback.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 5:35:52 AM EDT
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At some point down the road I will be looking back saying , what a sweet deal.
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