So after putting 300 rounds through my P365 and EDCing it for about a month.. (UPDATE: Gun is back!)

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Posted: 5/18/2018 6:18:15 PM EDT

UPDATE:

Got the gun back from Sig. Paperwork in the box indicates they replaced the striker and "slide subassembly" (not sure what they mean by that)

Out of the box, the trigger is now garbage. VERY gritty with TONS of creep and a mushy break. Not at all how I remembered it. When I first got the gun, I thought it was one of the best striker fired triggers I have ever felt. Now it feels worse than my G43.

Maybe it just needs a break-in, but so far, it doesn't look promising. Not sure why either. The striker assembly looks exactly the same as the old one. No change in design that I can see.

On the plus side, the striker is in one piece.

I decided to take it apart and give it a little wipe down and re-lubing.

Imagine my surprise when I noticed the striker appeared to be fully forward, but wasn't protruding through the breech face.

Imagine my surprise when I took the slide apart and discovered the tip was broken off the striker.

Imagine my surprise when I realized I had been carrying a worthless paperweight.

I guess thats what I get for trying to replace the G19.

Back to SIG it goes

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:19:41 PM EDT

[#1]

Ouch. Glad you found it before you needed it.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:20:50 PM EDT

[#2]

Boy, the hits just keep on coming at Sig.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:22:41 PM EDT

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Scary to think about what would've happened had I needed to pull it out.

Even though Sig is going to fix it, I'm not sure I'll be able to trust this gun. Its a shame too, because otherwise its the best damn carry pistol I've ever owned.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:24:19 PM EDT

[#4]

This is not the first time I heard of this happening and all with low round counts.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:25:55 PM EDT

[#5]

Maybe in a few years on p365 version 8.7 all the kinks will be worked out.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:27:42 PM EDT

[#6]

Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:28:36 PM EDT

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Wait, really?

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:29:46 PM EDT

[#8]

Just as good as a Glock!!! Lol!!

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:33:54 PM EDT

[#9]

I am holding off for a few years before getting it. I looks to be a great shooter when they are not having massive failures

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:34:12 PM EDT

[#10]

The more I hear about these, the more glad I am that I went with the G43 instead. I'd rather have low capacity over a paperweight.

Edit: Great concept though, if they can manage to get all of the kinks worked out.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:35:09 PM EDT

[#11]

Laughs in G43.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:35:14 PM EDT

[#12]

Taurus II electric boogaloo!

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:36:05 PM EDT

[#13]

modern day ron cohen abortion sigs are garbage.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:36:08 PM EDT

[#14]

Doh!

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:37:23 PM EDT

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Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Wait, really?

Yep, no shit. And it's not just the P365 either, just about every handgun they make, including the P320, is using Indian made MIM parts. Pisses me off that they compromised on quality to such a shit level.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:37:59 PM EDT

[#16]

Why does that look like mim? Am I nuts?

Edit: wow. Not just mim, but INDIAN mim. Jesus christ, were the fucking chinese not available?! Fucking garbage.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:39:07 PM EDT

[#17]

I won't consider carrying a gun that hasn't had at least 300 rounds through it.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:40:03 PM EDT

[#18]

I’ll take my g43 with reload. 13 onboard is ok with me.
I’m sure the kinks will get fixed eventually but I didn’t want to be the tester

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:41:24 PM EDT

[#19]

Thank you. This reminds me that I have no need or desire for anything from SIG SauerArmsUSARedWhit andBlue or whatever they are calling themselves now. To Hell But Not Back Reliability indeed.

I appreciate my P228 for being the first centerfire handgun I bought. It was made in West Germany. I have one other, made in Germany. I wish I had bought one of the M11s when they first appeared but only because of its military use.

I have no desire to rely on anything SIG has made since they decided that shitty parts equaling a lower price point was acceptable.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:43:07 PM EDT

[#20]

One simply doesn't "Replace" a Glock 19

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:44:00 PM EDT

[#21]

India. yikes. I don't know that I'd even trust the packaging made in India, nevermind the part.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:44:52 PM EDT

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Nope. I was hoping SIG would manage to get all the 365’s problems sorted out because the concept is great. But key components made in India? FFS can’t we make anything in this country anymore?? It’s disgusting

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:47:28 PM EDT

[#23]

Hoping they work out all the kinks with this gun. But damn...I'll stick with the Shield and G43 for now.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:48:51 PM EDT

[#24]

Its almost as if all these SIG problems are a sign of a systematic, deeper, problem.

Has there been a gun SIG launched that hasn't been a turd? What was the last one? the P239?

Cohen is a problem, a big one, but the rot started before him (he just accelerated it).

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:50:30 PM EDT

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That's what I'm hearing too, but I can't find anything written to prove it. Does anyone have evidence of country of origin or subcontract manufacturer lists?

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Scroll up a bit and check the pic. Its a thing.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:53:37 PM EDT

[#26]

Sexy

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:53:49 PM EDT

[#27]

Was considering one of these but I think I’ll iust stick with the Glock 26.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:55:05 PM EDT

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I decided to take it apart and give it a little wipe down and re-lubing.

Imagine my surprise when I noticed the striker appeared to be fully forward, but wasn't protruding through the breech face.

Imagine my surprise when I took the slide apart and discovered the tip was broken off the striker.

Imagine my surprise when I realized I had been carrying a worthless paperweight.

I guess thats what I get for trying to replace the G19.

Back to SIG it goes

http://i68.tinypic.com/2v8naf4.jpg

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Hey at least it wouldn't have killed you if you accidentally dropped it

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:55:18 PM EDT

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Yep, no shit. And it's not just the P365 either, just about every handgun they make, including the P320, is using Indian made MIM parts. Pisses me off that they compromised on quality to such a shit level.

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Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Wait, really?

Yep, no shit. And it's not just the P365 either, just about every handgun they make, including the P320, is using Indian made MIM parts. Pisses me off that they compromised on quality to such a shit level.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170218/88204f2bf8eda6dc44614832e3c5aacb.jpg

Deer God!

So, will they kindly do the needful and start importing Insas rifles?

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:59:50 PM EDT

[#30]

I really want to try the Sig 365 and I really want to like it, but man, hearing about the various issues with them...probably just oughta stick with the G19, fuck it.

Posted: 5/18/2018 6:59:54 PM EDT

[#31]

Imagine my surprise when I realized I had been carrying a worthless paperweight.

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I don't think tap-rack-bang drill would help too much.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:00:20 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/18/2018 7:01:13 PM EDT

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Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Wait, really?

Yep, there's been a thread about this issue in the Sig forum for a month. Sig is claiming it is a bad batch due to some type of carbon imbalance, but they aren't issuing a general recall. They are just fixing them as folks complain.

I am not sure what the biggest joke is - that position or the $99 aftermarket striker people are buying to replace it.

I was excited about this thing, but I knew better than to be the first onboard.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:01:14 PM EDT

[#34]

Junk...

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:01:32 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/18/2018 7:05:12 PM EDT

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Lmao. Well done.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:05:28 PM EDT

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Yep, no shit. And it's not just the P365 either, just about every handgun they make, including the P320, is using Indian made MIM parts. Pisses me off that they compromised on quality to such a shit level.

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Wow. The India made steel material and parts at my job is THE worst I've ever had the displeasure of working with. I can't believe they're scraping the bottom of the barrel to make their firearm parts.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:05:57 PM EDT

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Yep, there's been a thread about this issue in the Sig forum for a month. Sig is claiming it is a bad batch due to some type of carbon imbalance, but they aren't issuing a general recall. They are just fixing them as folks complain.

I am not sure what the biggest joke is - that position or the $99 aftermarket striker people are buying to replace it.

I was excited about this thing, but I knew better than to be the first onboard.

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Wow didn't know that. Fuck Sig. India is known to make some of the worst production guns on the planet.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:06:40 PM EDT

[#39]

Holy shit! I'll be crossing the p365 off my list.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:07:11 PM EDT

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Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Wait, really?

Oh shit ...well was looking at buying one tomorrow...Glock 43 it is then...

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:09:01 PM EDT

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Yes, just as good

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:10:16 PM EDT

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That's what I'm hearing too, but I can't find anything written to prove it. Does anyone have evidence of country of origin or subcontract manufacturer lists?

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Small parts, including the striker, are made in India MIM. As tempted as I am by the size of the P365 I just can't accept carrying a weapon with Indian made parts in it.

Wait, really?

That's what I'm hearing too, but I can't find anything written to prove it. Does anyone have evidence of country of origin or subcontract manufacturer lists?

I don’t know the countries or when, but it was years ago that I was told that small parts were now (then) made overseas. That was from someone who was in a position to directly know. This was all the different lines, including Classic P-series. It’s all affected. Don’t think it’s just the P365.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:11:16 PM EDT

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Someone at Sig has great ideas, the downside is hipoint is beating them in the QC department

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:12:47 PM EDT

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The best bang for your buck is steel from Taiwan.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:15:28 PM EDT

[#45]

It’s the only way they could stop the gun from going off when dropped. The ultimate firing pin safety

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:16:05 PM EDT

[#46]

Damn, homeboy. The bandwagon took you for quite a ride. Glad you survived. Imagine the embarrassing situation that could have resulted.

Yeah like I said before, wait til the public beta test is over. But fuxk some Hindu MIM.

All the fools acting like a Glock is the only good sidearm in this thread are good comedy too.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:18:02 PM EDT

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To hell with Sig! They're cheaping out on quality by putting shit parts in guns. It's Remington all over again, and corporate idiots never learn. It's another prestigious brand going down the shit toilette.

Posted: 5/18/2018 7:19:02 PM EDT

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Any machinists out there want to make a dime by selling milled strikers to replace the crap Indian ones in those Sigs? Probably make a killing! Especially when the Army models start failing left and right

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