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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:17:49 PM EDT
No hits?
 Six Oklahoma City Police Officers Fire at and Miss Suspect Pointing Gun |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:18:37 PM EDT
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NYPD transfers?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:18:48 PM EDT
[#2]
fpni.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:20:44 PM EDT
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 Sorry not guilty. If the good lord put that much work into saving his ass from being shot I am not going to interfere with that! |
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USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Lots of trigger jerking. Look how far some of those impacts were away from the suspect.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:27:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CZ75_9MM: Lots of trigger jerking. Look how far some of those impacts were away from the suspect. The house next store was very angry at the officers. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:32:05 PM EDT
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Impressive Police Work for sure.
Damn it is really suprising just how bad some people are at their jobs. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Sorry not guilty. If the good lord put that much work into saving his ass from being shot I am not going to interfere with that! 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 12:58:31 PM EDT
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Holy smokes. Some of those shots were waaayyyy off.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:04:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:08:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:13:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wildearp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Came here for this.  
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:20:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JKinAZ]
[#12]
Area suppression fire, or is everyone of those officers cockeyed?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 1:59:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/PF_Miracle-3198462.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Originally Posted By Paul: Sorry not guilty. If the good lord put that much work into saving his ass from being shot I am not going to interfere with that!  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:10:06 PM EDT
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Geez I would think a department that size would practice more.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/PF_Miracle-3198462.gif Hahaha came here to post this |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/PF_Miracle-3198462.gif Beat like a rented red-headed step-donkey. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:29:18 PM EDT
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Exactly why only police should have guns.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:41:17 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:42:45 PM EDT
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I don’t think they had enough cops there.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dano556x45mm: Exactly why only police should have guns. this too. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 3:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10mmillie: Geez I would think a department that size would practice more. Very few(almost none is my guess) departments "practice", they "qualify", many only once or twice a year on a course nearly identical to the 1930s Bullseye course for revolvers that were thumb cocked and reloaded with loose rounds from pockets, shot on targets the size of Shaquille O'Neal. Range access is about the same for cops as it is for everyone else, departmental ranges(those that have them) are booked up by quals(their own and other local, state and fed quals), and when they're not, range maintenance, Academy training and all the other realities of bureaucratic police life dominate. It's a very progressive, and almost always quite small department in an affluent municipality, that provides even monthly practice ammo. Any officer who wants to practice regularly(if you don't shoot weekly, you shoot weakly) has to arrange it on his own. Most don't, for the same reasons that most people(even ARFcommers) don't: time, effort and money. Many, many efforts have been made to raise standards, increase training and require practice over the decades. Every single time it's been shot down by budgetary restrictions, complaints (and lawsuits) from the sick, lame, lazy and diversity hires who are disparately impacted by training requirements, and the simple lack of POST requirements. Even units like SWAT have been subject to creeping mediocrity for decades now as the requirements to have females and minorities represented. It is what it is. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:11:32 PM EDT
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Someone's going to say suppressive fire is good in a little bit
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:20:17 PM EDT
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Do people fire more wildly in a group than on their own?
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:37:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feudist: Why? Very few(almost none is my guess) departments "practice", they "qualify", many only once or twice a year on a course nearly identical to the 1930s Bullseye course for revolvers that were thumb cocked and reloaded with loose rounds from pockets, shot on targets the size of Shaquille O'Neal. Range access is about the same for cops as it is for everyone else, departmental ranges(those that have them) are booked up by quals(their own and other local, state and fed quals), and when they're not, range maintenance, Academy training and all the other realities of bureaucratic police life dominate. It's a very progressive, and almost always quite small department in an affluent municipality, that provides even monthly practice ammo. Any officer who wants to practice regularly(if you don't shoot weekly, you shoot weakly) has to arrange it on his own. Most don't, for the same reasons that most people(even ARFcommers) don't: time, effort and money. Many, many efforts have been made to raise standards, increase training and require practice over the decades. Every single time it's been shot down by budgetary restrictions, complaints (and lawsuits) from the sick, lame, lazy and diversity hires who are disparately impacted by training requirements, and the simple lack of POST requirements. Even units like SWAT have been subject to creeping mediocrity for decades now as the requirements to have females and minorities represented. It is what it is. This is all spot on. If I want to train it’s on my own dime, and own time. I can’t even get a key to our range for some ridiculous reason. I’m a night shift supervisor, and make decisions that carry potentially millions of dollars in liability, but they don’t even trust me to have a range key. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:08:00 PM EDT
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Okcpd used to be known as "the deadliest police force in America"
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:17:07 PM EDT
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That's impressive
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:18:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Do people fire more wildly in a group than on their own? Sympathy fire. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:22:24 PM EDT
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After watching that I am shocked that they didn’t somehow shoot themselves
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:30:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batjac: After watching that I am shocked that they didn’t somehow shoot themselves Hey just look on the Brightside. If it were NYPD they'd have hit 19 bystanders, two fire trucks a city bus and shot down a news chopper. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:35:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feudist: Why? Very few(almost none is my guess) departments "practice", they "qualify", many only once or twice a year on a course nearly identical to the 1930s Bullseye course for revolvers that were thumb cocked and reloaded with loose rounds from pockets, shot on targets the size of Shaquille O'Neal. Range access is about the same for cops as it is for everyone else, departmental ranges(those that have them) are booked up by quals(their own and other local, state and fed quals), and when they're not, range maintenance, Academy training and all the other realities of bureaucratic police life dominate. It's a very progressive, and almost always quite small department in an affluent municipality, that provides even monthly practice ammo. Any officer who wants to practice regularly(if you don't shoot weekly, you shoot weakly) has to arrange it on his own. Most don't, for the same reasons that most people(even ARFcommers) don't: time, effort and money. Many, many efforts have been made to raise standards, increase training and require practice over the decades. Every single time it's been shot down by budgetary restrictions, complaints (and lawsuits) from the sick, lame, lazy and diversity hires who are disparately impacted by training requirements, and the simple lack of POST requirements. Even units like SWAT have been subject to creeping mediocrity for decades now as the requirements to have females and minorities represented. It is what it is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feudist: Originally Posted By 10mmillie: Geez I would think a department that size would practice more. Very few(almost none is my guess) departments "practice", they "qualify", many only once or twice a year on a course nearly identical to the 1930s Bullseye course for revolvers that were thumb cocked and reloaded with loose rounds from pockets, shot on targets the size of Shaquille O'Neal. Range access is about the same for cops as it is for everyone else, departmental ranges(those that have them) are booked up by quals(their own and other local, state and fed quals), and when they're not, range maintenance, Academy training and all the other realities of bureaucratic police life dominate. It's a very progressive, and almost always quite small department in an affluent municipality, that provides even monthly practice ammo. Any officer who wants to practice regularly(if you don't shoot weekly, you shoot weakly) has to arrange it on his own. Most don't, for the same reasons that most people(even ARFcommers) don't: time, effort and money. Many, many efforts have been made to raise standards, increase training and require practice over the decades. Every single time it's been shot down by budgetary restrictions, complaints (and lawsuits) from the sick, lame, lazy and diversity hires who are disparately impacted by training requirements, and the simple lack of POST requirements. Even units like SWAT have been subject to creeping mediocrity for decades now as the requirements to have females and minorities represented. It is what it is. At least I'm not the one writing out the wall-o-text-truth this time. IME, the more experienced civilian shooters are the ones least able to emotionally understand/process the truths of this issue. If shooting is a hobby for you, grasping the difficulties of training hundreds of people to competency and keeping them there is damn near inconceivable because the mindset is so different between the shooter and the masses of cops (and their admin). The first five years of my career, I fired fewer rounds on agency dime than in the first five hours of my handgun instructor class (ehh, maybe ten hours lol). And that was normal. IMO, the biggest limitation isn't budgetary..it's command staff. If they're not shooters, they'll never give a damn about spending a dime on firearms practice. If they *are* shooters, you'll be shooing them out of the armory. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:37:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119852/PF_Miracle-3198462.gif That gif….. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:39:31 PM EDT
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Some USPSA GM will call them C Class shooters.
I take that personally. I'm a C Class shooter. If those guys were C class shooters we would be talking about why that guy was shot 36 times. 
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:43:54 PM EDT
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They were shooting at the dog the whole time.
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