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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:31:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:33:53 AM EDT
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Pretty much the engine of western advancement is that you can get a patent BUT you have to disclose the technical side.
This can stimulate development and make sure the west is not like China were knowledge was kept secret. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:33:56 AM EDT
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Protecting patents is probably the one thing .gov got right
All that said Ive never fucked with a patent so Im sure they figured a way to make that hell too |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:34:32 AM EDT
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In!
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:34:53 AM EDT
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Congress has to enforce patents somehow, as mentioned by the constitution
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:35:00 AM EDT
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Absolutely.
However Disney can fuck right off. 7 - 10 years and then that shit should expire. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:35:22 AM EDT
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It stagnates innovation and goes against the theory of a free market by involving the government.
Any theft of ideas should be settled by a mutually agreed form of combat. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:36:03 AM EDT
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(delete) Patented double tap.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:40:43 AM EDT
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You got a problem fix the old system. Don't toss it out for the crappy system other nations have.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:41:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely. However Disney can fuck right off. 7 - 10 years and then that shit should expire. Not patents. That's copyright. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:42:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do you believe the US Patent and Trademark Office should exist? You should try to find hobbies. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:43:01 AM EDT
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yes, but the bar needs to be raised for patentable innovations.
apple shouldn't own the rectangle. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:43:42 AM EDT
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Absolutely but it should be easier for the poor to defend their patents against the wealthy
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:48:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely but it should be easier for the poor to defend their patents against the wealthy This |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:48:57 AM EDT
[#15]
Yes, but what's it matter when they ship it overseas?
Or whatever |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:49:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congress has to enforce patents somehow, as mentioned by the constitution Quote HistoryQuoted: Congress has to enforce patents somehow, as mentioned by the constitution Not correct. Article II, Section 8 gives Congress the power to establish a system of patents but does not require it to do so: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript The Congress shall have Power...To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:53:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely. However Disney can fuck right off. 7 - 10 years and then that shit should expire. That's copyright. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:00:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do you believe the US Patent and Trademark Office should exist? Wake boats would not exist without them. Highly litigated area of intellectual property bc the companies that spend big $$$ on engineers to make the largest wakes have their designs stolen almost instantly. Stolen bc the designs are patented and they can protect their property right through the courts. So you tell me. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:03:05 AM EDT
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Yes, but some are pure BS. Patents on a individual's DNA for example.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:04:00 AM EDT
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Pie
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:06:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely. However Disney can fuck right off. 7 - 10 years and then that shit should expire. Patents are not copyrights. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:29:49 AM EDT
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“Your words are your copyright “
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:45:01 AM EDT
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Yes. I do think it should NOT go woke, as it is currently trying to do.
I think getting a patent should be harder when something like 2/3 get invalidated when challenged. Fun fact: the average cost for patent infringement litigation for just the attorney’s fees is about $2.6MM if the amount in dispute is $10MM or less (per side!) Of course there are ways to offset that cost with insurance policies (both for if you are sued or have to sue), litigation funding, a willingness to license, etc. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:55:32 AM EDT
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I voted no in its present form.
It's way too difficult and confusing for a layperson to get a patent or trademark. If the process was streamlined so that all you had to do was submit your idea and then they issue the patent if it hasn't already been done before, that would be great. Also "protective patents" where companies patent things and then don't produce them need to go away. If you patent something you should have to make and sell it, or get out of the way and let other companies make and sell it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted no in its present form. It's way too difficult and confusing for a layperson to get a patent or trademark. If the process was streamlined so that all you had to do was submit your idea and then they issue the patent if it hasn't already been done before, that would be great. Also "protective patents" where companies patent things and then don't produce them need to go away. If you patent something you should have to make and sell it, or get out of the way and let other companies make and sell it. USPTO has a pretty straightforward guide to pro se applicants. even huge discounts for related fees. I have seen lots of people get patents and trademarks on their own. Patent trolls are terrible |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: USPTO has a pretty straightforward guide to pro se applicants. even huge discounts for related fees. I have seen lots of people get patents and trademarks on their own. Patent trolls are terrible Yup. I did my own provisional, and pro Bono service finished it off. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:14:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. I do think it should NOT go woke, as it is currently trying to do. I think getting a patent should be harder when something like 2/3 get invalidated when challenged. Fun fact: the average cost for patent infringement litigation for just the attorney’s fees is about $2.6MM if the amount in dispute is $10MM or less (per side!) Of course there are ways to offset that cost with insurance policies (both for if you are sued or have to sue), litigation funding, a willingness to license, etc. This. So many patents are BS and should not have been granted. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:19:40 PM EDT
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Yes. Otherwise Daddy Warbucks is your daddy
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:21:25 PM EDT
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Anyone patent the optic demagnetizer yet?
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:23:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:25:47 PM EDT
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Intellectual property in the US is worth $6T. I think we have the wrong approach, we should tax it.
A 10% tax on IP would raise $600B a year. That's nearly double what the corporate tax brings in. So we could eliminate the corporate income tax and replace it with a tax on IP, and all of a sudden making things would be basically tax free. You can do the valuation with a Harberger tax. Basically the companies assess their own IP and if someone thinks they went low they can pay like 120% of what the IP is worth and buy it. All of a sudden your patent trolls are playing a losing game. If their IP is worth anything they'll end up selling it, and they can't afford to hold on to IP that they aren't using. Best part? The tech industry is 90% IP. They'll be heavily taxed and other businesses won't be taxed at all. |
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