Senate bill to reopen the government and fund the wall failed to advance

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Posted: 1/24/2019 4:19:15 PM EDT

The Senate bill to reopen the government and included funding the wall failed to advance forward. It needed 60 ayes but failed with a recorded vote of: Yes-51 and No-47

Republicans Cotton and Lee voted no. Debate is now closed and bill marked dead.

Next up is the vote to advance the plan to reopen the government through 2/8 with zero wall funding.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:26:57 PM EDT

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Burn it all

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:28:26 PM EDT

[#2]

Every no voter should be strung up for treason. They are welcoming in the next 9-11 with open arms, having an open border.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:28:45 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/24/2019 4:28:54 PM EDT

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After all this, why would republicans fold now? They should finally get tired and say "screw it- the left and the media are going to hate us regardless".

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:29:32 PM EDT

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The government is still open enough to try to topple other countries, currently Venezuela. Sounds like one of those junkware programs that doesn’t really shut down, you have to turn the computer off and go into recovery mode

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:31:07 PM EDT

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Anyone know what's up with the Lee vote?

He is one of about 4 Senators that I actually don't hate.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:32:29 PM EDT

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Second bill looks to be dead as well with Yes 50 and no 44

Romney voted yes

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:32:34 PM EDT

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Anyone know what's up with the Lee vote?

He is one of about 4 Senators that I actually don't hate.

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Maybe he's opposed to the DACA concessions? No idea though.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:32:55 PM EDT

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What else was to be approved if it passed?...

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:33:44 PM EDT

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After all this, why would republicans fold now? They should finally get tired and say "screw it- the left and the media are going to hate us regardless".

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You are under the misconception they want the wall any more than the democrats. Just like repealing Obamacare, they say one thing and do the opposite

Republicans and Femocrats are two sides of the same coin

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:34:21 PM EDT

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Second bill looks to be dead as well with Yes 50 and no 44

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60 needed to pass.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:35:15 PM EDT

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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/We-have-to-reopen-the-government/5-2187822/

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:36:23 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:36:49 PM EDT

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How is this a dupe?

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:37:31 PM EDT

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Umm,
Don’t spending bills have to originate in the House?

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:38:31 PM EDT

[#16]

Looks like they are calling the bill dead at 52 Yes to 44 No.

Welp, time for the Senate to head home for a 3 Day Weekend.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:39:40 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

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Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:43:52 PM EDT

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Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:45:35 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

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Well said indeed!

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:45:49 PM EDT

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It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

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McConnell is playing very nice with Trump right now. They both are up for re-election in 2020 and Kentucky loves Trump.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:48:23 PM EDT

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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/We-have-to-reopen-the-government/5-2187822/

How is this a dupe?

This was being discussed in that thread

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:49:05 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Well said indeed!

They will have a federal court injunction INSTANTANEOUSLY to stop that and everything goes on as per normal.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:49:17 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

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He has a year to drag this out if he wants. Going the national emergency route will just feed the Democrat machine that Trump is a fascist dictator who is ruling by decree. He has sort of backed himself into a corner and every time he steps back it makes him look weaker.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:50:05 PM EDT

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This was being discussed in that thread

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How is this a dupe?

This was being discussed in that thread

Well Sen Cornyn is now speaking on the floor to an uninterested Senate to which the Senate needs to be brought to order.

Here ye, here ye!

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:52:21 PM EDT

[#25]

Our government might be the most incompetent in the history of US politics. These people are elected officials doing absolutely nothing.

Fuck them all.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:52:33 PM EDT

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They will have a federal court injunction INSTANTANEOUSLY to stop that and everything goes on as per normal.

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Well said indeed!

They will have a federal court injunction INSTANTANEOUSLY to stop that and everything goes on as per normal.

Ok then....take it to the SC. Meanwhile.....government shut down continues.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:53:44 PM EDT

[#27]

Remind me again how it is Trump's fault that congress can't pass a bill?

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:53:57 PM EDT

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Second bill looks to be dead as well with Yes 50 and no 44

Romney voted yes

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Both my senators voted yes, one tard and one rino.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:55:14 PM EDT

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Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

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IIRC, a not signed budget bill becomes law after 10 days.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:58:24 PM EDT

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Ok then....take it to the SC. Meanwhile.....government shut down continues.

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I'm not following how that helps him out of the shutdown that you are agreeing is no longer providing benefit.

Democrats are showing some fraying on this. Us MAGA's said he needed to get it on, so now it's on. He needs to win and getting slapped down in the courts or dragging out the shutdown while the appeals process grinds on does not strike me as a win.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:58:26 PM EDT

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They take some other bill that started in the house and amend "Remove everything and replace with the following..."

The Constitution is just a thing to be worked around and not actually followed.

Posted: 1/24/2019 4:59:39 PM EDT

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IIRC, a not signed budget bill becomes law after 10 days.

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Not a vetoed bill, but I hear you. I'd not trust that he wouldn't just refuse to sign it and declare victory.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:00:19 PM EDT

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The Constitution is just a thing to be worked around and not actually followed.

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Exactly.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:04:40 PM EDT

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What constitution?

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:05:09 PM EDT

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It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

So he's not going to do it, is he?

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:06:06 PM EDT

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Every no voter should be strung up for treason. They are welcoming in the next 9-11 with open arms, having an open border.

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You realize they didn't walk through Mexico to get into the US? You also realize we are still close buds with the Saudis?

Lots of little steps you have to make before you tie border security to 9/11.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:06:19 PM EDT

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So he's not going to do it, is he?

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

So he's not going to do it, is he?

I'm not following. What are you arguing?

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:12:16 PM EDT

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Looks like they are calling the bill dead at 52 Yes to 44 No.

Welp, time for the Senate to head home for a 3 Day Weekend.

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Well bless there hearts, they've been working so hard for that long weekend.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:13:46 PM EDT

[#39]

Both sides consider it politically advantageous to maintain the stalemate.

As soon as either side thinks it's to their advantage to end the stalemate, the stalemate will end.

An impasse requires two parties.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:13:56 PM EDT

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I'm not following. What are you arguing?

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

Force a veto then...if they think it's good for them.

It's McConnell who would have to force a veto, not democrats. He's the one holding the power as far as what bills get to Trump. So doing so would really only highlight conflict within the GOP.

So he's not going to do it, is he?

I'm not following. What are you arguing?

McConnell wouldn't challenge Trump to veto a bill without wall funding, would he?

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:15:37 PM EDT

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No, i don't think so, but I never said he would. I said that congress made a statement today that they will not give him wall funding.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:16:00 PM EDT

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Sen. Graham speaking now, just got off the phone with the President and said Trump is willing to go for a 3 week CR.

Cocaine Mitch and Schumer are meeting one on one to hammer that out.

So, the Senate can't leave just yet.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:19:52 PM EDT

[#43]

I’m ok with burning this madafakn place down.

If Mittens voted for it, you know it’s bad.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:26:58 PM EDT

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Our government might be the most incompetent in the history of US politics. These people are elected officials doing absolutely nothing.

Fuck them all.

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I’ll take this incompetent government doing nothing than a incompetent government passing a bunch of useless shit.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:28:10 PM EDT

[#45]

Not hungry enough, needs more shutdown.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:33:55 PM EDT

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If Trump is going to use the national emergency route he should do it very soon. Congress has made their statement that they are not going to give him the funding, and he gets no benefit by dragging this out any more.

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Absolutely wrong and nothing could be further from the truth. He has to wait this out until democrats cave and take this bullshit "shutdown card" out of their hand forever or it will be used against him and Republicans over and over and over again for the next 100 yeas.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:36:57 PM EDT

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Sen. Graham speaking now, just got off the phone with the President and said Trump is willing to go for a 3 week CR.

Cocaine Mitch and Schumer are meeting one on one to hammer that out.

So, the Senate can't leave just yet.

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Lol what a joke. CRs are beyond stupid.

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:56:39 PM EDT

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don't all spending bills have to originate in the House?

Posted: 1/24/2019 5:57:00 PM EDT

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Absolutely wrong and nothing could be further from the truth. He has to wait this out until democrats cave and take this bullshit "shutdown card" out of their hand forever or it will be used against him and Republicans over and over and over again for the next 100 yeas.

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You realize this isn't a card democrats invented or even made popular...

1995 Shutdown

This isn't the first time it's been used and it won't be the last. Unless there is legislation that takes the option off the table, both sides will pull this at some point again. Stop with the partisan hyperbole - it doesn't get us any closer to a solution.

Posted: 1/24/2019 6:00:53 PM EDT

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Lol what a joke. CRs are beyond stupid.

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Sen. Graham speaking now, just got off the phone with the President and said Trump is willing to go for a 3 week CR.

Cocaine Mitch and Schumer are meeting one on one to hammer that out.

So, the Senate can't leave just yet.

Lol what a joke. CRs are beyond stupid.

This would be a huge mistake by republicans. Democrats need to feel the heat of when the welfare programs get shut off and this would bail them out of it.

So right when we are about to put them on the ropes we are going to let them off the hook?

WTF

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