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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:27:57 PM EDT
army world, does this happen and if so are they strapped in? Didn't look like it.
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Quoted: army world, does this happen and if so are they strapped in? Didn't look like it. View Quote If not strapped i would not like to do that but im also a super pussy with hights so theres that. |
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Never did it in a combat zone but did do it a few times with a parachute strapped to my back.
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I have ridden in a huey many times, and was not strapped in. Was holding onto the door hard though
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I’m a retired Air Force helicopter flight engineer. Most likely they are using a seat belt that’s attached to the floor or they’re wearing a gunners belt. Everyone is secured all the time until departure.
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We call it a monkey tail. It connects to your riggers belt, where the opposite end connects to an attachment point in the floor board of the aircraft. When the end of the tail isn't in use, you just connect it to your gun belt. Attached File
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In that episode I saw at least one guy hook onto something to his right.
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It's a very thin leather strap with quick release buckle. They used to love banking on my side..... I hated that shit. In the Huey though. Im not Hollywood enough for the SEALs
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Lanyards/monkey tail
https://www.quora.com/How-do-soldiers-not-fall-off-the-sides-of-helicopters-when-they-simply-just-sit-hanging-on-the-ledge-on-the-sides-of-the-helicopter-especially-when-the-helicopter-is-tilting-while-turning |
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Did they use anything like that in Vietnam? I've seen some much footage from then where they just jumped on and were gone.
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View Quote The hearing damage would have to be biblical. |
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It depends short ride no not strapped in longer rides yes. We usually took of the strap as we got close to the LZ.
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Generally speaking, you don't fall out of a helicopter unassisted, hence the Vietnam question, they didn't strap in to the best of my knowledge.
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An old friend and coworker of mine was an M60 gunner on Chinooks in Vietnam. One day we were getting set up to do a SAR mission on Longs Peak in CO. The ship was a contracted oil and gas Alouette (sp?) but we were gov so there were tons of hoops and regulations and safety briefs. The gov helicopter manager at the helibase was getting on Wayne because his boots weren’t 8 inches tall and Wayne goes “motherfucker, I did this shit in Vietnam, kept in the ship by a leather belt looped to my leather belt and I shot people with a machine gun attached by nothing but a bungee cord, leave me alone”. I love that dude.
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Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. My first thought as well. Would still try but would double up for sure |
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Always fun to drape a spare tail over your buddy’s shoulder right before the maneuvering gets spicy. Extra case of beer to the crew and pilots for the additional flight fun makes popping the cherry so much fun!!
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We buzzed around New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit. Only way to get around until the water went down..m
We also hunt hogs from Little Birds when time permits. When the Covid scare is over get down to Tampa for the SOFIC convention. A good show is always put on in the bay. Special Operations Forces Demonstration In Downtown Tampa |
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Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. That said, it is not that bad |
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Quoted: I’m a retired Air Force helicopter flight engineer. Most likely they are using a seat belt that’s attached to the floor or they’re wearing a gunners belt. Everyone is secured all the time until departure. View Quote Yeah, whenever I flew on our MH-53Js, if you weren't in the PLT/CO/FE seats, you were wearing a gunners belt. Even the teams that we transported had their own securement belts of various types. |
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View Quote That is so incredibly fucking cool. That has to be loud as shit and I didn't know they even had provisions for personnel outside on an AH64. (Maybe they don't which makes it even more cool) |
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Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. Yeah but you would have photographic proof that you're so bad ass that they strapped you to the outside of an Apache for additional firepower. |
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View Quote I’ve got a photo like that from a UH-1 somewhere. But I was wearing a seatbelt. Sucked though; with Alice on your back, your ass barely caught the bar at the front of the seat. |
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Quoted: We buzzed around New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit. Only way to get around until the water went down..m We also hunt hogs from Little Birds when time permits. When the Covid scare is over get down to Tampa for the SOFIC convention. A good show is always put on in the bay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmUay7NsMJU View Quote |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Story for the picture: https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/marines-apache-helicopters/ “As I passed ahead of one Apache,” an unnamed pilot wrote, “I glanced high left to see a man, leaning over the stubby helicopter wing, unloading his rifle on the enemy. We matched with 30-millimeter and rockets.” That’s right, the Marines were firing their rifles while strapped to the helicopters. ETA - the pilot wrote a book that has the story https://smile.amazon.com/Apache-Inside-Cockpit-Fighting-Machine/dp/0802144780/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445021515&sr=8-1&keywords=Apache+Ed+Macy |
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Quoted: If not strapped i would not like to do that but im also a super pussy with hights so theres that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: army world, does this happen and if so are they strapped in? Didn't look like it. If not strapped i would not like to do that but im also a super pussy with hights so theres that. It's not so bad. When the helicopter banks for a turn, the centrifugal force pretty much pins your ass to the floor. It's a little freaky the first time... sitting on the floor and looking straight out and seeing the ground..lol At the same time there is zero sensation that you are falling out and you don't feel any need to brace yourself or hold on to something. It's a fun ride though. I'm terrified of heights, but aircraft tend to be so high up that it never feels real. Getting on the roof of my little house scared me more than this ever did. (I only did it when I was also rigged with a parachute, so there's that haha) |
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Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. Beats dying every day of the week. |
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View Quote See that down there? That's a shithole. |
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As crew chief of a UH-1E, I had a dedicated web belt with strap that could be hooked to the built in tie down points on the cargo deck. It has an adjustment for length. One beautiful day flying over the Pacific with the doors open, I became bored. After letting some strap out, I stepped out onto a skid and went for a walk at 5000ft. Shuffled up next to the co-pilot window and waved. I'll never forget his reaction. Anyway, the walk was a rush.
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Quoted: We call it a monkey tail. It connects to your riggers belt, where the opposite end connects to an attachment point in the floor board of the aircraft. When the end of the tail isn't in use, you just connect it to your gun belt. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327690/20210601_223531_jpg-1963776.JPG View Quote Exactly this. AKA "personal retention lanyard". Mine's a Blackhawk with 2 of those exact same locking carabiners tightened hard. Lol. No quick release shackle for me as I wasn't jumping out. Just assisting a fwd TCCET - Tactical Critical Care Evacuation Team ...back when those existed. And wrapped around the weak side when at a fob chow hall for style points. |
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Quoted: That is so incredibly fucking cool. That has to be loud as shit and I didn't know they even had provisions for personnel outside on an AH64. (Maybe they don't which makes it even more cool) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: That is so incredibly fucking cool. That has to be loud as shit and I didn't know they even had provisions for personnel outside on an AH64. (Maybe they don't which makes it even more cool) It's very cool. I think they wanted that feature in the Cobra's replacement as there were times Cobras were the only helicopters available and couldn't rescue downed aircrew. |
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Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The hearing damage would have to be biblical. My thought. A pair of foam ear plugs or custom ones even. Then a set of really good muffs, I am thinking tinnitus would be a life long issue real quick, or even deafness. |
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I bet it would really suck to forget to unclip your lanyard before jumping out, under any circumstances (assuming there is some slack to accommodate that).
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