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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:04:36 AM EDT
Figured it was about time for another thread like this :)
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:15:13 AM EDT
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Some cool trashcan guns in those pics.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:17:09 AM EDT
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Subscribed!
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:19:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:25:05 AM EDT
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 [+18] War is Hell- First Chechen War |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:36:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:42:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 3:46:52 AM EDT
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thanks for sharing
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Posted: 1/17/2018 4:18:03 AM EDT
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That first video, and the Russian Rap go together pretty well.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 4:19:22 AM EDT
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Russians vs. Jihadis?
Too bad someone had to win. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 4:46:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 4:52:02 AM EDT
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tagged for later...good pics OP.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 4:55:40 AM EDT
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A really ugly affair, but I have to hand it to the Ruskies; they did what it took to win the second one.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:04:18 AM EDT
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Now, that's a shithole.
ETA Is it wrong to hope both sides lose? 
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:31:46 AM EDT
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There are some good Russians...but there only good jihadi is a dead jihadi. Fine with them kicking each other's ass, but in round 2 the Russians really pushed their shit in. No more fucking around.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:33:15 AM EDT
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The Moscow theater hostage situation and the Beslan school massacre were seriously fubar. It was not even on the radar of most Americans. Most islamic apologists today probobly would not even know about them.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:36:44 AM EDT
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Yeah, I don't even want to think about the shit storm of suffering that the Russians unleashed after beslan. God only knows how many people, innocent and guilty, were tortured to death or whatever else it is the Russians do to people that really really piss them off and have no nation state support...
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:38:49 AM EDT
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I make a take-off of the White Russian I call the Chechnian
Kalua Carmel whiskey Cream (I like to use my wifes coffee creamer, a southern pecan) Shit tastes awesome yo |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:41:48 AM EDT
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I make a take-off of the White Russian I call the Chechnian Kalua Carmel whiskey Cream (I like to use my wifes coffee creamer, a southern pecan) Shit tastes awesome yo |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 8:00:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 12:51:12 PM EDT
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I remember chuckling a little when I would read about the rooskies getting their asses handed to them in round 1.... Now...after 9/11, after the last 17 years I realize how wrong I was...
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Posted: 1/17/2018 2:09:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 2:57:09 PM EDT
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Russians vs. Jihadis? Too bad someone had to win. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 2:58:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:02:55 PM EDT
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I remember chuckling a little when I would read about the rooskies getting their asses handed to them in round 1.... Now...after 9/11, after the last 17 years I realize how wrong I was... I think a lot of the world did, most likely helped them win the second war plus they were out for blood. The world became much less tollerant to islamic fundamentalism and terrorism bull shit around then. We made a lot of mistakes during that Clinton era about what side we took around the world. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:08:06 PM EDT
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The best wars are wars with no "good guys" you don't care who wins and hope for a high body count.
Fuck Russia and fuck Chechnya |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:18:40 PM EDT
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If I was Russia, and there was a part of me like Chechnya, I would certainly go to war to cut it the fuck off and get rid of it.
But to fight so hard to keep those fuckers....now that's crazy. I don't care if they have oil, gold, or horny super models. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:19:40 PM EDT
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Tagged for more pictures.
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:21:17 PM EDT
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I remember chuckling a little when I would read about the rooskies getting their asses handed to them in round 1.... Now...after 9/11, after the last 17 years I realize how wrong I was... The closest comparison is if the US entered Fallujah in 2004 and the Marines and Soldiers got hammered, driven out of the city with their tails between their legs. Also, Chechan separatists in the 1st Chechan War weren't Islamist orientated, they were nationalists. Their primary leaders were actually commies, senior govt officials, who used the collapse of the Soviet Union as an excuse to break away from Russian control, since the Russians had always treated non-Russians they controlled like pieces of shit. It wasn't until years later as the Gulf States flooded money to Salafist Islamist groups that those groups became some of the dominant factions, made vastly apparent in the 2nd Chechan War. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:32:05 PM EDT
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What is the obsession with wrapping stuff around the buttstocks and what in the Blue F are they putting there? Are those battle dressings or smokes or what?
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:38:01 PM EDT
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OP, did you ever see 'Russian Hell in 2000'?
I think I still have the CD-ROM around here somewhere, and it was horrifying. Too much Arabic spoken, which told me whom was doing a lot of the fighting there. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 5:53:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 6:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, the Russians did get their asses handed to them. First Chechan War wasn't one of those "We won all the battles but lost the war" type of scenarios, the Russians lost most of the actual battles too. IE. Large Russian forces would attack, they'd get their asses kicked, massive numbers killed, large numbers captured, Russia embarrassed and unable to effectively respond. The closest comparison is if the US entered Fallujah in 2004 and the Marines and Soldiers got hammered, driven out of the city with their tails between their legs. Also, Chechan separatists in the 1st Chechan War weren't Islamist orientated, they were nationalists. Their primary leaders were actually commies, senior govt officials, who used the collapse of the Soviet Union as an excuse to break away from Russian control, since the Russians had always treated non-Russians they controlled like pieces of shit. It wasn't until years later as the Gulf States flooded money to Salafist Islamist groups that those groups became some of the dominant factions, made vastly apparent in the 2nd Chechan War. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 6:15:22 PM EDT
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Winner winner. Maikop brigade at the Grozny train station was probably the most intense battle since world war 2. Too bad Russians are never honest about their own casualties or we’d know for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: LOL, the Russians did get their asses handed to them. First Chechan War wasn't one of those "We won all the battles but lost the war" type of scenarios, the Russians lost most of the actual battles too. IE. Large Russian forces would attack, they'd get their asses kicked, massive numbers killed, large numbers captured, Russia embarrassed and unable to effectively respond. The closest comparison is if the US entered Fallujah in 2004 and the Marines and Soldiers got hammered, driven out of the city with their tails between their legs. Also, Chechan separatists in the 1st Chechan War weren't Islamist orientated, they were nationalists. Their primary leaders were actually commies, senior govt officials, who used the collapse of the Soviet Union as an excuse to break away from Russian control, since the Russians had always treated non-Russians they controlled like pieces of shit. It wasn't until years later as the Gulf States flooded money to Salafist Islamist groups that those groups became some of the dominant factions, made vastly apparent in the 2nd Chechan War. How the fuck do you lose an entire brigade against insurgents?
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Posted: 1/17/2018 6:29:24 PM EDT
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What is the obsession with wrapping stuff around the buttstocks and what in the Blue F are they putting there? Are those battle dressings or smokes or what? |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 6:30:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember reading the lessons learned for the '94-95 battle of Grozny back in the early 2000s, I kept the print out for a very long time afterwards. I remember being blown away by the horrors of urban combat and yet when we did similar stuff in Iraq, because we weren't fuck ups like the Russians, it was nowhere as bad. Goddamn, did the Russians basically do everything wrong... How the fuck do you lose an entire brigade against insurgents? Same for the US in Korea. Only 5 years after WWII ended, and we fielded one of the most proficient armys in the world, we started off in Korea like the keystone cops. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:00:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:05:28 PM EDT
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It's like they forgot how fight a war. The lessons of WWII were lost to them I guess. Same for the US in Korea. Only 5 years after WWII ended, and we fielded one of the most proficient armys in the world, we started off in Korea like the keystone cops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember reading the lessons learned for the '94-95 battle of Grozny back in the early 2000s, I kept the print out for a very long time afterwards. I remember being blown away by the horrors of urban combat and yet when we did similar stuff in Iraq, because we weren't fuck ups like the Russians, it was nowhere as bad. Goddamn, did the Russians basically do everything wrong... How the fuck do you lose an entire brigade against insurgents? Same for the US in Korea. Only 5 years after WWII ended, and we fielded one of the most proficient armys in the world, we started off in Korea like the keystone cops. Chechans declared a separate state and the Russians, trying to act like badasses to prevent it and others from breaking away, half assed it the operation with almost no clear plan, they rolled in an armor column into the city center of Grozny thinking they'd replicate Budapest in '56 and instead they got welcomed by hunter killer teams and got their asses kicked badly. Didn't help that it caught them at the worst time ever. After the Soviet Union collapsed it was nothing but massive budget cuts, morale crashed in their military, pay was irregular, logistics was basically gone, corruption was rampant, desertions skyrocketing. No real training for years. They'd stagnated heavily since the late 70s anyway as the communist system crumbled through normal commie bullshit, their difficulties in the 90s were the just deserts to their bullshit Marxist Leninist experiment. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, the Russians did get their asses handed to them. First Chechan War wasn't one of those "We won all the battles but lost the war" type of scenarios, the Russians lost most of the actual battles too. IE. Large Russian forces would attack, they'd get their asses kicked, massive numbers killed, large numbers captured, Russia embarrassed and unable to effectively respond. The closest comparison is if the US entered Fallujah in 2004 and the Marines and Soldiers got hammered, driven out of the city with their tails between their legs. Also, Chechan separatists in the 1st Chechan War weren't Islamist orientated, they were nationalists. Their primary leaders were actually commies, senior govt officials, who used the collapse of the Soviet Union as an excuse to break away from Russian control, since the Russians had always treated non-Russians they controlled like pieces of shit. It wasn't until years later as the Gulf States flooded money to Salafist Islamist groups that those groups became some of the dominant factions, made vastly apparent in the 2nd Chechan War. At least that's how I took it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 7:24:46 PM EDT
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I think you mis-understood this post. He's saying he enjoyed watching the Russians get their asses kicked, but after 9/11 he was a big fan of anyone killing Islamists and regretted seeing the Russians lose to the worst scum on earth. At least that's how I took it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: LOL, the Russians did get their asses handed to them. First Chechan War wasn't one of those "We won all the battles but lost the war" type of scenarios, the Russians lost most of the actual battles too. IE. Large Russian forces would attack, they'd get their asses kicked, massive numbers killed, large numbers captured, Russia embarrassed and unable to effectively respond. The closest comparison is if the US entered Fallujah in 2004 and the Marines and Soldiers got hammered, driven out of the city with their tails between their legs. Also, Chechan separatists in the 1st Chechan War weren't Islamist orientated, they were nationalists. Their primary leaders were actually commies, senior govt officials, who used the collapse of the Soviet Union as an excuse to break away from Russian control, since the Russians had always treated non-Russians they controlled like pieces of shit. It wasn't until years later as the Gulf States flooded money to Salafist Islamist groups that those groups became some of the dominant factions, made vastly apparent in the 2nd Chechan War. At least that's how I took it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 8:35:45 PM EDT
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No good-guys in that conflict...
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Posted: 1/17/2018 8:40:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:24:07 PM EDT
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Russians vs. Jihadis? Too bad someone had to win. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:30:05 PM EDT
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Do you stir it with 5.45x39? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I make a take-off of the White Russian I call the Chechnian Kalua Carmel whiskey Cream (I like to use my wifes coffee creamer, a southern pecan) Shit tastes awesome yo |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:33:28 PM EDT
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If I was Russia, and there was a part of me like Chechnya, I would certainly go to war to cut it the fuck off and get rid of it. But to fight so hard to keep those fuckers....now that's crazy. I don't care if they have oil, gold, or horny super models. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:47:50 PM EDT
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OP, did you ever see 'Russian Hell in 2000'? I think I still have the CD-ROM around here somewhere, and it was horrifying. Too much Arabic spoken, which told me whom was doing a lot of the fighting there. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:52:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:56:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:56:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2018 10:58:48 PM EDT
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Yea thats what I was thinking about too. During the first Chechnya war we were still just coming out of the cold war so I didnt mind seeing someone whoop the Soviets. But like you said, 9-11 happened and suddenly I realized who the majuhadin were and what Islam was all about and I found my self having sympathy for the russians. I think a lot of the world did, most likely helped them win the second war plus they were out for blood. The world became much less tollerant to islamic fundamentalism and terrorism bull shit around then. We made a lot of mistakes during that Clinton era about what side we took around the world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember chuckling a little when I would read about the rooskies getting their asses handed to them in round 1.... Now...after 9/11, after the last 17 years I realize how wrong I was... I think a lot of the world did, most likely helped them win the second war plus they were out for blood. The world became much less tollerant to islamic fundamentalism and terrorism bull shit around then. We made a lot of mistakes during that Clinton era about what side we took around the world. |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 11:04:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYeah, Dagestan was pretty fucked up. However, it serves as a fine example of why a certain group of people have no place in a civilized society.
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