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The Ukiebros won't be done until they have fought to the last Ukrainian:
Washington Will Fight Russia to the Last Ukrainian - Kiev faces a choice: make peace for its people or war for its supposed friends? (2022) Russia’s war against Ukraine rages on. The U.S. and Europe continue to support Kiev. But not, it seems, to make peace. Rather, the allies are prepared to back the Zelensky government as long as it fights Moscow to the last Ukrainian—which has always been the West’s approach to Kiev. View Quote “Next to starting a war, the most reprehensible act would be keeping one going when more people will die with little hope the outcome will improve,” yet evidence suggests “the U.S. is inhibiting a diplomatic solution in Ukraine.” View Quote |
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[#2]
This war will not end inside of 2 years... Maybe 20
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Dispensing happiness one MIRV at a time.
GA, USA
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[#3]
This mean Putin isn’t gonna nuke us now?
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"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: How many Russian soldiers died in the past few days "taking" those abandoned villages? lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By Sketti: Clearly the cult still can't see it! Imagine betting on the losing horse for a race that's already underway. Most people with common sense wouldn't make those bets, they understand it's just throwing money away! How many Russian soldiers died in the past few days "taking" those abandoned villages? lol |
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#Pureblood
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Originally Posted By norseman1: This war will not end inside of 2 years... Maybe 20 View Quote Ukraine may not last another 2 years... but Cold War 2.0 probably will... which seems to be the overall goal of this clusterfuck. Higher taxes, more corruption, less freedom, and don't ask obvious questions or you are working for the Russians. Thanks Ukiebros! |
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: lol, I get that you were playing gotcha games and wanted an answer like "Its lightly fortified, 2 more weeks". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Lot of words lol, I get that you were playing gotcha games and wanted an answer like "Its lightly fortified, 2 more weeks". How about a year? Within a year? |
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"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By Sketti: Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent! "Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times. From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion." Article link View Quote I'm sure they got the weapons and instantly hit all the targets they couldn't for the last few months while they were held up by the retards in congress. |
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: Criminal how? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: The finger can be pointed right at fuckwads like MTG and Speaker Johnson. 6 months of nothing is criminal negligence Criminal how? He's an ANTIFA. Know your commentator. |
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Do you even OODA loop?
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Originally Posted By byron2112: That money was mostly to pay their bureaucrats and pensions View Quote False. That money is going to the US industrial base to build new systems and send current ones to Ukraine. Also some money to improve production capability. You guys love that Russia propaganda though. So I doubt hitting you with facts matters. |
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Originally Posted By nvcdl: The little guy was goaded into the fight by the biggest guy in the school (who doesn't want to fight) in the hopes that he will weaken the big guy enough that he will have a breakdown and decide to do whatever he is told and give up his religion and assets. View Quote LOL. Russia is bombing a shitload protestant/semi-protestant Churched in Ukraine that isn't orthadox Pro-Putin regime Christian. Russia isn't defending Christianity. They're out right attacking certain sects of it. |
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Originally Posted By hatidua: -that about covers it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hatidua: Originally Posted By 86Tiger: It never mattered. Ukraine was never going to win. They don’t have the GDP, natural resources, manufacturing nor population to go toe to toe with Russia. And never did. Only chance they ever had to “win” is US or NATO step in between the two and neither is willing to start a full on war to save the most corrupt nation on european continent. Every thing else is smoke and mirrors. And of course military industrial complex profit at US taxpayers expense. -that about covers it. Seriously it does cover it. |
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Do you even OODA loop?
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[#13]
Both the US AND Ukraine would be better off sending all those who are in favor of paying for the war as troops instead of actual money. After all, since they don't want to draft their younger men [and women if they aren't sexist], our gung ho Americans would be the next best thing.
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Liberals are a curious mix of communism and fascism, they want to destroy you but want to use your own money to do it.
I'm getting down to the last box, the other have all been destroyed... |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: Both the US AND Ukraine would be better off sending all those who are in favor of paying for the war as troops instead of actual money. After all, since they don't want to draft their younger men [and women if they aren't sexist], our gung ho Americans would be the next best thing. View Quote No problem with that, but first I’d rather see the Ukraine draft military-aged males. 18-25 year olds seem like they would be important for a country “fighting for their very survival”. “Beach party is over, Pavlo. We’ve got a massively successful summer counter-offensive to launch” |
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Not a Tennessee Squire
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Originally Posted By nvcdl: The little guy was goaded into the fight by the biggest guy in the school (who doesn't want to fight) in the hopes that he will weaken the big guy enough that he will have a breakdown and decide to do whatever he is told and give up his religion and assets. View Quote Bullshit. That’s the Russian narrative. |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: No problem with that, but first I’d rather see the Ukraine draft military-aged males. 18-25 year olds seem like they would be important for a country “fighting for their very survival”. “Beach party is over, Pavlo. We’ve got a massively successful summer counter-offensive to launch” View Quote You understand that Russia's 3:1 Population overmatch doesn't mean anything because neither side is capable of training, arming and feilding all their military age men, right? You do realize that men not fighting likely also have jobs, right? From Farming and manufacturing to even just developing phone video games to keep the tax money coming in.... Did no one in America go to a beach, drink a beer or get laid from 1939 in until 1945? What about during Vietnam or GWOT? As for the "Russia Strok, Ukraine Doomed". Saying Russia has a 3x Economy and 3x Population is meaningless. Y'all the same clowns growing about the US losing to a bunch of goat herders. US had 3,490 deaths as the result of hostile action in 20 years of GWOT. I'm seeing Russian numbers from 50k to 230k KIA. |
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Originally Posted By Kuhndog: You Putin puffers never fail to surprise. Ukraine was shell starved and basically out of ammo for months, and it’ll take months for the munitions to get to the front. Russias gains are due to the west’s lack of urgency. It’s the same foolish surprise Biden and his lackies faced when they dithered on tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles for months, waiting for Russia to build defense in depth and then being dumbfounded that Ukraine couldn’t penetrate it with 30 Abram tanks and a couple handfuls of Bradleys. Russis is not our friend, they never will be. Unlike many other mistakes, Iraqi army, afghan army, south Vietnamese army… Ukraine actually wants to fight. My guess is life under Russia has taught Ukraine what life will be like and they do not want it. View Quote Okay Boomer. Not worth a single American life. |
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Originally Posted By nvcdl: The little guy was goaded into the fight by the biggest guy in the school (who doesn't want to fight) in the hopes that he will weaken the big guy enough that he will have a breakdown and decide to do whatever he is told and give up his religion and assets. View Quote Ukraine really wasn't thinking when they invaded Russia. |
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Originally Posted By Sketti: Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent! "Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times. From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion." Article link View Quote The original poster, who is a curious conduit for constant pro-Russian posts seems to have a problem with cause and effect. One could just as readily conclude that the delay in arms and aid, which in all likelihood is only starting to make it to tropes based on the recent passage, made Ukrainian lines vulnerable to the current breakthrough. Logic doesn’t matter much though when all you do is parrot pro Putin talking points - either out of ignorance or complicity - and regardless, all of which promote outcomes and viewpoints (ie “this is all a waste of tax money!)” that further Russia’s aim of totally capturing Ukraine and subjugating its people and resources be force. |
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Originally Posted By Gelandewagen: You understand that Russia's 3:1 Population overmatch doesn't mean anything because neither side is capable of training, arming and feilding all their military age men, right? You do realize that men not fighting likely also have jobs, right? From Farming and manufacturing to even just developing phone video games to keep the tax money coming in.... Did no one in America go to a beach, drink a beer or get laid from 1939 in until 1945? What about during Vietnam or GWOT? As for the "Russia Strok, Ukraine Doomed". Saying Russia has a 3x Economy and 3x Population is meaningless. Y'all the same clowns growing about the US losing to a bunch of goat herders. US had 3,490 deaths as the result of hostile action in 20 years of GWOT. I'm seeing Russian numbers from 50k to 230k KIA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gelandewagen: Originally Posted By Subpar: No problem with that, but first I’d rather see the Ukraine draft military-aged males. 18-25 year olds seem like they would be important for a country “fighting for their very survival”. “Beach party is over, Pavlo. We’ve got a massively successful summer counter-offensive to launch” You understand that Russia's 3:1 Population overmatch doesn't mean anything because neither side is capable of training, arming and feilding all their military age men, right? You do realize that men not fighting likely also have jobs, right? From Farming and manufacturing to even just developing phone video games to keep the tax money coming in.... Did no one in America go to a beach, drink a beer or get laid from 1939 in until 1945? What about during Vietnam or GWOT? As for the "Russia Strok, Ukraine Doomed". Saying Russia has a 3x Economy and 3x Population is meaningless. Y'all the same clowns growing about the US losing to a bunch of goat herders. US had 3,490 deaths as the result of hostile action in 20 years of GWOT. I'm seeing Russian numbers from 50k to 230k KIA. There was CONUS fighting during WWII, Vietnam or GWOT and I just never heard about it? America was being literally being invaded by a hostile nation and was in a fight for its very survival and during the invasion America decided to let its 18-25 year old men lay on a beach? |
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Originally Posted By Bogdan: They could be and Ukraine has lied before but its hard to lie when you have so much drone and video footage. Everything short of individual soldiers taking a dump is getting documented. View Quote Lol. Every video combined represents a fraction of 1% of everything that happens over there. They are also triaged for narrative content and your viewing pleasure. |
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Already answered that it depends on how much the Ukrainians are able to slow them down in the open areas around the city, so not sure. How long do you think it will take? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: How about a year? Within a year? Already answered that it depends on how much the Ukrainians are able to slow them down in the open areas around the city, so not sure. How long do you think it will take? The Russians will never take Kharkiv. If you disagree, estimate when. |
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"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By Subpar: There was CONUS fighting during WWII, Vietnam or GWOT and I just never heard about it? America was being literally being invaded by a hostile nation and was in a fight for its very survival and during the invasion America decided to let its 18-25 year old men lay on a beach? View Quote So you agree with Biden that there is no Southern Boarder crisis and we're not being invaded? Russia and China are not helping to fund Africans and Middle Easterners to cross the boarder? Or.... Are we actually being invaded and tens of millions of Americans men are sitting on their asses? |
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How Russia Opened a New Front in Ukraine |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The Russians will never take Kharkiv. If you disagree, estimate when. View Quote We'll find out eventually who was prescient, and who was dreaming. |
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Originally Posted By GarandM1: He doesn't need to say when. You've already predicted they will never take Kharkov; all he has to say is they will. We'll find out eventually who was prescient, and who was dreaming. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GarandM1: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The Russians will never take Kharkiv. If you disagree, estimate when. We'll find out eventually who was prescient, and who was dreaming. The provocative statement has its purpose. |
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"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Ukraine has a manpower issue. Maybe they could use some of the fighting age illegal immigrants and H1B's that are rapidly becoming a plurality in the US? Or maybe the wave of Gaza refugees that are surely going to hit our shores?
Nah, just send them more money financed at 5%. That'll be enough. From the river to the sea, Ukraine will be free! Trust Zelensky |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The Russians will never take Kharkiv. If you disagree, estimate when. View Quote The interrogation style questioning / elicitation strategy stuff relies on building rapport, just FYI. Remember us having this same conversation about Avdiivka? How did that end up, lol |
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: It's sad that the Party of Reagan is now the Party of Putin. View Quote Attached File |
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Hold up, we've had multiple Sketti Russia rah rah threads over the last year yet none of them has lead to the major Russian break through.
Am I supposed to believe Sketti is cheerleading for Russia now or "just asking questions"? |
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
https://t.me/arfcom_ukebros Let's go Brandon CINCAFUGD |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: A Russia that sees no resistance to aggression against its neighbors is heading down a path the ends in one place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By yankee43: Originally Posted By Ascendent: Two things you can count on. The sun rising in the east and setting in the west, Sketti aiding Russians and any other American enemies he can. Still “fighting the Cold War”, are you? It is apparent you don’t know what is happening, nor why, just as the overwhelming majority of people don’t. The enemies of America aren’t who suspect, and they are far more sinister than Vladimir Putin. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110515/IMG_2227_jpeg-3213558.JPG Is Putin\/Russia an enemy of America? of the US? I don't think so. I don't see them making moves against the US or moving troops or arms as close as humanly possible to our own border. They have 4000 nuclear weapon pointed at us and are demanding a multipolar world. You cool with that? How does supplying aid to Ukraine change that? A Russia that sees no resistance to aggression against its neighbors is heading down a path the ends in one place. That's not what you said last year or earlier this year. |
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Shit like this is why you don't give typewriters to monkeys. - L_JE
Colonialism, bringing ethnic diversity to a continent near you. - My Father Me being brief, this is like seeing a comet - Geralt55 |
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Semper Fi!
It is a shame the Democrats did not hate Russia during the cold war. |
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The Russians moved up to Ukraine's defense line but have not engaged directly. I think fhey are hurting in the south and want Ukraine to move troops north. Ulraine was probably waiting to engage them on their own soill because unfortunately they are not allowed to use many of the weapons on Russian territory. The Russians have about 2 battalions involved now out of about 50k total (30k recently moved from the south).
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Originally Posted By Frank762: It is obvious the party of Stalin is the left. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Biden took bribes from the mayor of Moscow. Corruption has no party affiliation. Originally Posted By Subpar: No problem with that, but first I’d rather see the Ukraine draft military-aged males. 18-25 year olds seem like they would be important for a country “fighting for their very survival”. “Beach party is over, Pavlo. We’ve got a massively successful summer counter-offensive to launch” They're trying to save that group of men while Putin is conscripting them as fast as he can..just not any of his power bases. 19 years old in Tuva? The Ukrainian front, for you 23 in Siberia? Off to the Ukrainian front, for you 21 in Moscow? Enjoy your rave party and don't drink too much. Russia's northern Offensive lost a lot of vehicles and men before even crossing the border. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
https://t.me/arfcom_ukebros Let's go Brandon CINCAFUGD |
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For reference, the recent Russian offensive has seized land equivalent to 1/26th the area of Ft. Irwin.
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Russia will surrender any day now.
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United we stand, divided we fall!
I’m just here for the post count. I do my best proofreading after I hit send. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: For reference, the recent Russian offensive has seized land equivalent to 1/26th the area of Ft. Irwin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: For reference, the recent Russian offensive has seized land equivalent to 1/26th the area of Ft. Irwin. Sketti: Russia stronk Russia stronk Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Russia will surrender any day now. It was the OP proclaiming Ukraine would surrender and Zelenskyy be defeated last year by August or so. Didn't happen, obviously. |
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
https://t.me/arfcom_ukebros Let's go Brandon CINCAFUGD |
[#43]
A war of attrition, America giving a way money we don't have to delay the inevitable Ukraine surrender.
And just like Afghanistan we give it all away. "The never ending war on terror" |
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Pretty soon they are going to try and send troops. I think they are lying about the numbers and they are running out of Ukrainian men to fight.
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Originally Posted By Kuhndog: You Putin puffers never fail to surprise. Ukraine was shell starved and basically out of ammo for months, and it'll take months for the munitions to get to the front. Russias gains are due to the west's lack of urgency. It's the same foolish surprise Biden and his lackies faced when they dithered on tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles for months, waiting for Russia to build defense in depth and then being dumbfounded that Ukraine couldn't penetrate it with 30 Abram tanks and a couple handfuls of Bradleys. Russis is not our friend, they never will be. Unlike many other mistakes, Iraqi army, afghan army, south Vietnamese army Ukraine actually wants to fight. My guess is life under Russia has taught Ukraine what life will be like and they do not want it. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By buck19delta: Moneys great, as are weapons, but you need troops to use them / wield them. DC should have sent them 100,000 illegals toting cheap AKs and rpgs, and as conscripts/ cannon fodder, vs billions in cash. View Quote Don't be surprised if they make illegals that offer for citizenship. Then they not only get to keep that war going but have a military that will work for cheaper and is loyal to the government and not the citizens of this country or the constitution. I'm sure that will work out well. |
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Originally Posted By 21usernamechecksout: A war of attrition, America giving a way money we don't have to delay the inevitable Ukraine surrender. And just like Afghanistan we give it all away. "The never ending war on terror" View Quote |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Don't be surprised if they make illegals that offer for citizenship. Then they not only get to keep that war going but have a military that will work for cheaper and is loyal to the government and not the citizens of this country or the constitution. I'm sure that will work out well. View Quote The TASS site has already claimed that the CIA is recruiting drug cartels to fill Ukraine's ranks. I think that was fake/propaganda, but its not that far fetched to imagine something like that happening in the future |
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One of the few things that I fully support my tax dollars being used for. Ukrainians killing Russians for the win.
Now we need to remove any limits on how our weapons can be used, then start the next aid package rolling. |
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This is Russia making a big push before that aid arrives. Should have arrived six months ago but the GOP House played chicken with it
Biden is also to blame, he should have approved ATACMS and other things on day one, not dribbled it. |
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