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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:20:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Someone else got the last guy. Fighting to death seems reasonable when surrendering will get your raped or raped and your balls cut off. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:20:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: Fighting to death seems reasonable when surrendering will get your raped or raped and your balls cut off. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Someone else got the last guy. Fighting to death seems reasonable when surrendering will get your raped or raped and your balls cut off. Yeah, I think they learned that hard lesson for the most part. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:28:53 PM EDT
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The defense of the area with a large ammunition depot was carried out by the following complexes: Pantsir-S1, Buk-M3 and S-300V(4?). To shoot down three UA ballistic missiles, the russians launched from 10 to 12 anti-aircraft missiles (mostly Buk-M3 and Pantsir-S1), but only one UA missile was shot down. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:32:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:49:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Someone else got the last guy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
An absolute hero soldier defending against 4 russian invaders at point blank range, balls of steel. My friend shared this absolutely amazing video today with me. This is 5th National Guard Brigade fighting around Klishiivka. I hope he is alive and was rotated safely. I was told that today in this assault russians lost around 50 men in total. Someone else got the last guy. Man, I can only fucking imagine having a rifle fight at 2 yards. I hope someone comes out of this with some no-BS lessons-learned alternative to the usual stand-up carbine courses everyone now teaches. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: The .50 cal is perfectly sufficient, firepower-wise, for most drone threats, and has the advantage of being able to carry and fire a shit-ton more ammo than either 35mm or 50mm. The issue is that you need a better acquisition system and a rapid "slew-to-cue" tracking capability. Also, for certain applications an upgrade from an M2HB to an M3P .50 cal for anti-drone may be justified. IF you are up against multiple drone swarms; acquisition, tracking capability, rate of fire and a metric shit-ton of ammo will be critical. I doubt that either a 35mm or a 50mm light and reliable enough to mount as an auxiliary weapon on most vehicles will be able to come close to the rate of fire of an M2 variant, and would be totally outclassed in RoF by an M3P. Also, a heavier gun (such as a 20mm, let alone a 35mm or 50mm) will need a heavier/larger cradle, mounting system, more robust auto-slew and elevation mechanism, etc. For a lot of vehicles, it would require a complete redesign to mount these weapons. There is a reason that the AVENGER systems gun armament is an M3P and not a 20mm or larger. A 500 round bin of .50 on a light/medium tactical vehicle is easily doable; a 200-round or more magazine for something like 35mm, not so much. Let's not even get into the logistics of movement and resupply of 35 or 50mm in the amounts required or what the reload times would look like. A good thought exercise would be to think about which you would rather reload during a drone swarm attack, a Ma-Deuce or an M242 Bushmaster? Which one is easier to clear or perform immediate action on? Which one is easier to maintain? Get the acquisition/tracking down and build an effective slew and auto-acquisition system, and the 90% solution is achieved without crushing your loggies and maintenance personnel, not to mention that fielding would be a lot faster!  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Capta: I made the point a while back that every armored vehicle needs to be built with a base level of SHORAD capability, and is just differentiated by how specialized it is. That also lets you buy one system en masse and add extras as you think necessary. Stop looking at 50mm cannons with the idea of penetrating Russian IFVs from the front. That is far, far down the priority list from “taking out attack/spotter drones”. Every single armored vehicle needs a 30-35mm cannon with smart fuse ammo and at least a basic “SHORAD for Dummies” capability. The dedicated SHORAD vehicles get more/better sensors, radar, SAMs instead of ATGMS, etc. Agreed. For a cannon, I think 30-35mm is the sweet spot. Hell, the Bradley's 25mm gun seems plenty sufficient going up against Russian threats in Ukraine. As for wheeled vehicles and even some tracked ones, I think anything currently mounting an M2 .50 BMG machine gun should be upgraded with one of these instead: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Oshkosh_JLTV.jpg Everything from the JLTV on up needs a gun capable of shooting down drones. As for foot moble light infantry, I am not sure what the solution is. But it might involve mounting some sort of defensive weapon on a wheeled and/or tracked robotic vehicle that can accompany platoons or squads when on the move. A modernized mule packing an M230 30mm cannon would be nice to have for dealing with multiple ground and air based threats. I can now see where the talk of restructuring the current squad by adding a third fireteam to control drones and robotics makes sense. The rifle squad is going to need this level of organic capability just to survive the modern battlefield. WWII was an Army/Corps commander's war. Korea was a regimental commander's war. Vietnam developed into a company commander's war. The GWOT was largely a platoon leader's war. Our next war is probably going to be a squad leaders war. Decision-making keeps getting pushed down to smaller and smaller levels. With that needs to come a decentralization of certain assets, with these assets going from being a corps responsibility to much lower levels. Air defense is one of these. Corps can handle the big stuff. But every tank and infantry platoon needs its own organic air defense assets to deal with the smaller and more numerous threats. Shit is evolving fast and I worry we aren't keeping pace. The .50 cal is perfectly sufficient, firepower-wise, for most drone threats, and has the advantage of being able to carry and fire a shit-ton more ammo than either 35mm or 50mm. The issue is that you need a better acquisition system and a rapid "slew-to-cue" tracking capability. Also, for certain applications an upgrade from an M2HB to an M3P .50 cal for anti-drone may be justified. IF you are up against multiple drone swarms; acquisition, tracking capability, rate of fire and a metric shit-ton of ammo will be critical. I doubt that either a 35mm or a 50mm light and reliable enough to mount as an auxiliary weapon on most vehicles will be able to come close to the rate of fire of an M2 variant, and would be totally outclassed in RoF by an M3P. Also, a heavier gun (such as a 20mm, let alone a 35mm or 50mm) will need a heavier/larger cradle, mounting system, more robust auto-slew and elevation mechanism, etc. For a lot of vehicles, it would require a complete redesign to mount these weapons. There is a reason that the AVENGER systems gun armament is an M3P and not a 20mm or larger. A 500 round bin of .50 on a light/medium tactical vehicle is easily doable; a 200-round or more magazine for something like 35mm, not so much. Let's not even get into the logistics of movement and resupply of 35 or 50mm in the amounts required or what the reload times would look like. A good thought exercise would be to think about which you would rather reload during a drone swarm attack, a Ma-Deuce or an M242 Bushmaster? Which one is easier to clear or perform immediate action on? Which one is easier to maintain? Get the acquisition/tracking down and build an effective slew and auto-acquisition system, and the 90% solution is achieved without crushing your loggies and maintenance personnel, not to mention that fielding would be a lot faster! Forgive me if I ramble here, but it's one of those days. I think what we're gonna ultimately need to do is to integrate specialized anti-drone weapons and software onto each vehicle in a mechanized platoon. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle to each platoon with an "Aegis style" C&C system. When the platoon is operating independently, it can link in to any Patriot systems or airborne systems nearby or use it's integrated radar to provide anti-drone and SHORAD coverage. And if its weapons aren't sufficient for the task, take control the rest of the platoons anti-drone weapons. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle at the company level that can link in to the big boy ADA stuff while controlling all the anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicles dispersed to the platoons for when the company operates together and so on up the line. Maybe make it the XO's vehicle, or maybe add a permanent slot directly under the XO for the ADA LT, maybe make him 3rd in charge of the company?  I know they like to group specialties at BN and high levels, but as an infantryman, we always had problems with the specialist BN or BGD dumped on us. Whether it was because of their lack of physical fitness or lack of field craft, or lack of understanding what we did, it was always something and we were always picking up their slack. Now granted that was in the '80's and I don't know what the WoT changed in that regard, but back then they were always problematic. Hopefully the WoT sorted them out, but somehow I doubt it. I believe living and working together provides better knowledge, training and integration for both the ADA and the Infantry LT's and NCO's as they must learn about each others needs and equipment, and how to best to incorporate it into their planning. I remember several times my LT telling them "We're setting up here, set your stuff up where you think it needs to go." because he didn't know how to best employ the supplementals. Invariably, they didn't dig fighting positions, or set up camo nets, or anything else. They parked their vehicles and stayed inside with the heater running. Just my 0.02 cents on a druggy rainy day. As far as my beloved light infantry, I have no idea how to keep them relevant without bulking them up with lightweight vehicles ranging from ADA to artillery and everything in between. And if we do that, how light are they anymore... Is conventional light infantry still a viable force now-a-days?Maybe Project Walrus was what we needed for transportation, I don't know. Hell, maybe Starship can do it, again I don't know. I just know that watching russian infantry dying by the hundreds ever day, while bringing warmth to my heart, makes me concerned when I think about what would happen to my old light infantry units in this war. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDAMN 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:08:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: I was thinking a 30MM primary and a .50 coax. .50 will deal with close-in small drones but has little range or use against anything besides drones/personnel/soft-skinned vehicles. A real SHORAD vehicle needs to be at least circa 30mm for range and utility against non-drone air targets like helis, cruise missiles, and ground targets. Concur all on 30mm or larger (I actually like 35mm, 50mm, or 57mm) for a primary SHORAD ADA vehicle. However, for tanks, IFVs, APCs and so forth, even a 20mm is too large for most applications as a coax or flex mounting, particularly since mounting anything that large with a rate of fire that would be effective for drones would have issues. The M242 is the descendent of a coaxial cannon they tried to mount in tandem with a main tank gun during the MBT-70 program, and we know how that program turned out. Also, they attempted to mount 'Bushmaster" cannons on both M113s and the smaller M114s in the 1970's; let us just say the results were less than optimal! Given the weight budget, I think a tracking and slew system incorporated to the existing .50 cal mountings would be quicker to field and more effective for the smaller class of drones. Surveillance drones are an ADA issue, since once you engage said drone, the enemy knows where you're located whether you successfully engage it or not, and having your front-line troops unmask themselves when they are in covered/concealed positions is a tad counterproductive when it comes to inhibiting enemy recon. The solution is a lot of different measures, from reinserting camouflage discipline into our tactics up to some really promising EW and directed energy weapons/solutions. Not to mention an interdiction TTP, as precision Field Artillery fires tied directly to the ADA net taking out UAS operators and control nodes can solve a lot of problems in a fashion where that specific portion of the problem stays solved. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:20:08 PM EDT
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 TALLINN The government of Estonia is "seriously" discussing the possibility of sending troops into western Ukraine to take over non-direct combat, "rear" roles from Ukrainian forces in order to free them up to fight on the front, Tallinn's national security advisor to the president told Breaking Defense. Madis Roll said the executive branch is currently undertaking an analysis of the potential move, and though he said Estonia would prefer to make any such move as part of a full NATO mission "to show broader combined strength and determination" he didn't rule out Estonia acting in a smaller coalition. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:29:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Concur all on 30mm or larger (I actually like 35mm, 50mm, or 57mm) for a primary SHORAD ADA vehicle. However, for tanks, IFVs, APCs and so forth, even a 20mm is too large for most applications as a coax or flex mounting, particularly since mounting anything that large with a rate of fire that would be effective for drones would have issues. The M242 is the descendent of a coaxial cannon they tried to mount in tandem with a main tank gun during the MBT-70 program, and we know how that program turned out. Also, they attempted to mount 'Bushmaster" cannons on both M113s and the smaller M114s in the 1970's; let us just say the results were less than optimal! Given the weight budget, I think a tracking and slew system incorporated to the existing .50 cal mountings would be quicker to field and more effective for the smaller class of drones. Surveillance drones are an ADA issue, since once you engage said drone, the enemy knows where you're located whether you successfully engage it or not, and having your front-line troops unmask themselves when they are in covered/concealed positions is a tad counterproductive when it comes to inhibiting enemy recon. The solution is a lot of different measures, from reinserting camouflage discipline into our tactics up to some really promising EW and directed energy weapons/solutions. Not to mention an interdiction TTP, as precision Field Artillery fires tied directly to the ADA net taking out UAS operators and control nodes can solve a lot of problems in a fashion where that specific portion of the problem stays solved. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Capta: I was thinking a 30MM primary and a .50 coax. .50 will deal with close-in small drones but has little range or use against anything besides drones/personnel/soft-skinned vehicles. A real SHORAD vehicle needs to be at least circa 30mm for range and utility against non-drone air targets like helis, cruise missiles, and ground targets. Concur all on 30mm or larger (I actually like 35mm, 50mm, or 57mm) for a primary SHORAD ADA vehicle. However, for tanks, IFVs, APCs and so forth, even a 20mm is too large for most applications as a coax or flex mounting, particularly since mounting anything that large with a rate of fire that would be effective for drones would have issues. The M242 is the descendent of a coaxial cannon they tried to mount in tandem with a main tank gun during the MBT-70 program, and we know how that program turned out. Also, they attempted to mount 'Bushmaster" cannons on both M113s and the smaller M114s in the 1970's; let us just say the results were less than optimal! Given the weight budget, I think a tracking and slew system incorporated to the existing .50 cal mountings would be quicker to field and more effective for the smaller class of drones. Surveillance drones are an ADA issue, since once you engage said drone, the enemy knows where you're located whether you successfully engage it or not, and having your front-line troops unmask themselves when they are in covered/concealed positions is a tad counterproductive when it comes to inhibiting enemy recon. The solution is a lot of different measures, from reinserting camouflage discipline into our tactics up to some really promising EW and directed energy weapons/solutions. Not to mention an interdiction TTP, as precision Field Artillery fires tied directly to the ADA net taking out UAS operators and control nodes can solve a lot of problems in a fashion where that specific portion of the problem stays solved. Can I observe that it’s insane that the M2/M3 Browning will probably end up an important weapon system in The Machine Wars? (TM) The Right Hand of Freedom in its second century of service! 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:39:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: https://i.postimg.cc/3NLTHFsJ/Screenshot-20240513-171445-Chrome.jpg TALLINN The government of Estonia is "seriously" discussing the possibility of sending troops into western Ukraine to take over non-direct combat, "rear" roles from Ukrainian forces in order to free them up to fight on the front, Tallinn's national security advisor to the president told Breaking Defense. Madis Roll said the executive branch is currently undertaking an analysis of the potential move, and though he said Estonia would prefer to make any such move as part of a full NATO mission "to show broader combined strength and determination" he didn't rule out Estonia acting in a smaller coalition. Tiny Estonia (who has been brutalized throughout history by Russia) has been directly threatened by Russia. Plenty of the regular GD retards will say this is “NATO threatening Russia…” though. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UKjohn: The lada was a lie  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UKjohn: Originally Posted By Bogdan: Originally Posted By wsix: HAHAHA. US "you are all terrible people who we want to be dead" Them- teams up US- "how did that happen?" This is not an accident, it's a reason to fleece the taxpayer for a new cold or hot war. Americans are idiots. Should you be out there earning a It has to be, unless Lada is turning out cars in roughly the numbers Ford was cranking out Ford Falcons in the early 1960's; they're not, so the families of the "200s" aren't getting their Lada anytime soon. Not to mention the fact that an early '60s Ford Falcon is probably safer and more reliable on a road trip than the stuff Lada is currently putting out! 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Comes from The Beatles. White Album? Abby Road, side 2 Medley; "She Came In Through the Bathroom Window" (protected by a silver spoon...) |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:49:33 PM EDT
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Allegedly a recent video. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:57:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Comes from The Beatles. White Album? No shit? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:03:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Forgive me if I ramble here, but it's one of those days. I think what we're gonna ultimately need to do is to integrate specialized anti-drone weapons and software onto each vehicle in a mechanized platoon. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle to each platoon with an "Aegis style" C&C system. When the platoon is operating independently, it can link in to any Patriot systems or airborne systems nearby or use it's integrated radar to provide anti-drone and SHORAD coverage. And if its weapons aren't sufficient for the task, take control the rest of the platoons anti-drone weapons. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle at the company level that can link in to the big boy ADA stuff while controlling all the anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicles dispersed to the platoons for when the company operates together and so on up the line. Maybe make it the XO's vehicle, or maybe add a permanent slot directly under the XO for the ADA LT, maybe make him 3rd in charge of the company? I know they like to group specialties at BN and high levels, but as an infantryman, we always had problems with the specialist BN or BGD dumped on us. Whether it was because of their lack of physical fitness or lack of field craft, or lack of understanding what we did, it was always something and we were always picking up their slack. Now granted that was in the '80's and I don't know what the WoT changed in that regard, but back then they were always problematic. Hopefully the WoT sorted them out, but somehow I doubt it. I believe living and working together provides better knowledge, training and integration for both the ADA and the Infantry LT's and NCO's as they must learn about each others needs and equipment, and how to best to incorporate it into their planning. I remember several times my LT telling them "We're setting up here, set your stuff up where you think it needs to go." because he didn't know how to best employ the supplementals. Invariably, they didn't dig fighting positions, or set up camo nets, or anything else. They parked their vehicles and stayed inside with the heater running. Just my 0.02 cents on a druggy rainy day. As far as my beloved light infantry, I have no idea how to keep them relevant without bulking them up with lightweight vehicles ranging from ADA to artillery and everything in between. And if we do that, how light are they anymore... Is conventional light infantry still a viable force now-a-days?Maybe Project Walrus was what we needed for transportation, I don't know. Hell, maybe Starship can do it, again I don't know. I just know that watching russian infantry dying by the hundreds ever day, while bringing warmth to my heart, makes me concerned when I think about what would happen to my old light infantry units in this war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Capta: I made the point a while back that every armored vehicle needs to be built with a base level of SHORAD capability, and is just differentiated by how specialized it is. That also lets you buy one system en masse and add extras as you think necessary. Stop looking at 50mm cannons with the idea of penetrating Russian IFVs from the front. That is far, far down the priority list from “taking out attack/spotter drones”. Every single armored vehicle needs a 30-35mm cannon with smart fuse ammo and at least a basic “SHORAD for Dummies” capability. The dedicated SHORAD vehicles get more/better sensors, radar, SAMs instead of ATGMS, etc. Agreed. For a cannon, I think 30-35mm is the sweet spot. Hell, the Bradley's 25mm gun seems plenty sufficient going up against Russian threats in Ukraine. As for wheeled vehicles and even some tracked ones, I think anything currently mounting an M2 .50 BMG machine gun should be upgraded with one of these instead: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Oshkosh_JLTV.jpg Everything from the JLTV on up needs a gun capable of shooting down drones. As for foot moble light infantry, I am not sure what the solution is. But it might involve mounting some sort of defensive weapon on a wheeled and/or tracked robotic vehicle that can accompany platoons or squads when on the move. A modernized mule packing an M230 30mm cannon would be nice to have for dealing with multiple ground and air based threats. I can now see where the talk of restructuring the current squad by adding a third fireteam to control drones and robotics makes sense. The rifle squad is going to need this level of organic capability just to survive the modern battlefield. WWII was an Army/Corps commander's war. Korea was a regimental commander's war. Vietnam developed into a company commander's war. The GWOT was largely a platoon leader's war. Our next war is probably going to be a squad leaders war. Decision-making keeps getting pushed down to smaller and smaller levels. With that needs to come a decentralization of certain assets, with these assets going from being a corps responsibility to much lower levels. Air defense is one of these. Corps can handle the big stuff. But every tank and infantry platoon needs its own organic air defense assets to deal with the smaller and more numerous threats. Shit is evolving fast and I worry we aren't keeping pace. The .50 cal is perfectly sufficient, firepower-wise, for most drone threats, and has the advantage of being able to carry and fire a shit-ton more ammo than either 35mm or 50mm. The issue is that you need a better acquisition system and a rapid "slew-to-cue" tracking capability. Also, for certain applications an upgrade from an M2HB to an M3P .50 cal for anti-drone may be justified. IF you are up against multiple drone swarms; acquisition, tracking capability, rate of fire and a metric shit-ton of ammo will be critical. I doubt that either a 35mm or a 50mm light and reliable enough to mount as an auxiliary weapon on most vehicles will be able to come close to the rate of fire of an M2 variant, and would be totally outclassed in RoF by an M3P. Also, a heavier gun (such as a 20mm, let alone a 35mm or 50mm) will need a heavier/larger cradle, mounting system, more robust auto-slew and elevation mechanism, etc. For a lot of vehicles, it would require a complete redesign to mount these weapons. There is a reason that the AVENGER systems gun armament is an M3P and not a 20mm or larger. A 500 round bin of .50 on a light/medium tactical vehicle is easily doable; a 200-round or more magazine for something like 35mm, not so much. Let's not even get into the logistics of movement and resupply of 35 or 50mm in the amounts required or what the reload times would look like. A good thought exercise would be to think about which you would rather reload during a drone swarm attack, a Ma-Deuce or an M242 Bushmaster? Which one is easier to clear or perform immediate action on? Which one is easier to maintain? Get the acquisition/tracking down and build an effective slew and auto-acquisition system, and the 90% solution is achieved without crushing your loggies and maintenance personnel, not to mention that fielding would be a lot faster! Forgive me if I ramble here, but it's one of those days. I think what we're gonna ultimately need to do is to integrate specialized anti-drone weapons and software onto each vehicle in a mechanized platoon. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle to each platoon with an "Aegis style" C&C system. When the platoon is operating independently, it can link in to any Patriot systems or airborne systems nearby or use it's integrated radar to provide anti-drone and SHORAD coverage. And if its weapons aren't sufficient for the task, take control the rest of the platoons anti-drone weapons. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle at the company level that can link in to the big boy ADA stuff while controlling all the anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicles dispersed to the platoons for when the company operates together and so on up the line. Maybe make it the XO's vehicle, or maybe add a permanent slot directly under the XO for the ADA LT, maybe make him 3rd in charge of the company? I know they like to group specialties at BN and high levels, but as an infantryman, we always had problems with the specialist BN or BGD dumped on us. Whether it was because of their lack of physical fitness or lack of field craft, or lack of understanding what we did, it was always something and we were always picking up their slack. Now granted that was in the '80's and I don't know what the WoT changed in that regard, but back then they were always problematic. Hopefully the WoT sorted them out, but somehow I doubt it. I believe living and working together provides better knowledge, training and integration for both the ADA and the Infantry LT's and NCO's as they must learn about each others needs and equipment, and how to best to incorporate it into their planning. I remember several times my LT telling them "We're setting up here, set your stuff up where you think it needs to go." because he didn't know how to best employ the supplementals. Invariably, they didn't dig fighting positions, or set up camo nets, or anything else. They parked their vehicles and stayed inside with the heater running. Just my 0.02 cents on a druggy rainy day. As far as my beloved light infantry, I have no idea how to keep them relevant without bulking them up with lightweight vehicles ranging from ADA to artillery and everything in between. And if we do that, how light are they anymore... Is conventional light infantry still a viable force now-a-days?Maybe Project Walrus was what we needed for transportation, I don't know. Hell, maybe Starship can do it, again I don't know. I just know that watching russian infantry dying by the hundreds ever day, while bringing warmth to my heart, makes me concerned when I think about what would happen to my old light infantry units in this war. Totally agree on the integration part; the best conventional tactical unit I was in was 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, as we lived integrated. As for the target acquisition piece, the ADA and FA communities have been working together for a long time to build what they were calling when I was there the "Fires Functional Network". I have been away from the game for a little while now, but I assume that they are far along with the integrated air picture and EW network to send Fire Control - level data pretty far down, as even a decade ago the discussion was what data sets Infantry Company mortar teams needed to receive and provide. I expect that getting "good enough to shoot down a category 1 or 2 UAS" data to most maneuver units is in the "relatively easy to do" category (rockets, artillery, mortars, and missiles would of course be a tad harder). |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Allegedly a recent video. I’m surprised they have any left. I would have figured they’d been all expended by now. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Allegedly a recent video. I suspect they have been refurbishing some of their stockpiles by now. Unless they got a donation from another country. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wsix: HAHAHA. US "you are all terrible people who we want to be dead" Them- teams up US- "how did that happen?" This is not an accident, it's a reason to fleece the taxpayer for a new cold or hot war. Americans are idiots. Those terrible people are doing terrible things right now. It's normal to want evil folks to get justice. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:46:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Can I observe that it’s insane that the M2/M3 Browning will probably end up an important weapon system in The Machine Wars? (TM) The Right Hand of Freedom in its second century of service! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Capta: I was thinking a 30MM primary and a .50 coax. .50 will deal with close-in small drones but has little range or use against anything besides drones/personnel/soft-skinned vehicles. A real SHORAD vehicle needs to be at least circa 30mm for range and utility against non-drone air targets like helis, cruise missiles, and ground targets. Concur all on 30mm or larger (I actually like 35mm, 50mm, or 57mm) for a primary SHORAD ADA vehicle. However, for tanks, IFVs, APCs and so forth, even a 20mm is too large for most applications as a coax or flex mounting, particularly since mounting anything that large with a rate of fire that would be effective for drones would have issues. The M242 is the descendent of a coaxial cannon they tried to mount in tandem with a main tank gun during the MBT-70 program, and we know how that program turned out. Also, they attempted to mount 'Bushmaster" cannons on both M113s and the smaller M114s in the 1970's; let us just say the results were less than optimal! Given the weight budget, I think a tracking and slew system incorporated to the existing .50 cal mountings would be quicker to field and more effective for the smaller class of drones. Surveillance drones are an ADA issue, since once you engage said drone, the enemy knows where you're located whether you successfully engage it or not, and having your front-line troops unmask themselves when they are in covered/concealed positions is a tad counterproductive when it comes to inhibiting enemy recon. The solution is a lot of different measures, from reinserting camouflage discipline into our tactics up to some really promising EW and directed energy weapons/solutions. Not to mention an interdiction TTP, as precision Field Artillery fires tied directly to the ADA net taking out UAS operators and control nodes can solve a lot of problems in a fashion where that specific portion of the problem stays solved. Can I observe that it’s insane that the M2/M3 Browning will probably end up an important weapon system in The Machine Wars? (TM) The Right Hand of Freedom in its second century of service! It'll be mounted on directed energy weapon prime movers!
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:56:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Man, I can only fucking imagine having a rifle fight at 2 yards. I hope someone comes out of this with some no-BS lessons-learned alternative to the usual stand-up carbine courses everyone now teaches. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
An absolute hero soldier defending against 4 russian invaders at point blank range, balls of steel. My friend shared this absolutely amazing video today with me. This is 5th National Guard Brigade fighting around Klishiivka. I hope he is alive and was rotated safely. I was told that today in this assault russians lost around 50 men in total. Someone else got the last guy. Man, I can only fucking imagine having a rifle fight at 2 yards. I hope someone comes out of this with some no-BS lessons-learned alternative to the usual stand-up carbine courses everyone now teaches. Apparently both sides were out of grenades. A well placed grenade from either side would have ended the battle. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:03:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:17:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:49:31 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for May 13th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-13-2024 |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Totally agree on the integration part; the best conventional tactical unit I was in was 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, as we lived integrated. As for the target acquisition piece, the ADA and FA communities have been working together for a long time to build what they were calling when I was there the "Fires Functional Network". I have been away from the game for a little while now, but I assume that they are far along with the integrated air picture and EW network to send Fire Control - level data pretty far down, as even a decade ago the discussion was what data sets Infantry Company mortar teams needed to receive and provide. I expect that getting "good enough to shoot down a category 1 or 2 UAS" data to most maneuver units is in the "relatively easy to do" category (rockets, artillery, mortars, and missiles would of course be a tad harder). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Capta: I made the point a while back that every armored vehicle needs to be built with a base level of SHORAD capability, and is just differentiated by how specialized it is. That also lets you buy one system en masse and add extras as you think necessary. Stop looking at 50mm cannons with the idea of penetrating Russian IFVs from the front. That is far, far down the priority list from “taking out attack/spotter drones”. Every single armored vehicle needs a 30-35mm cannon with smart fuse ammo and at least a basic “SHORAD for Dummies” capability. The dedicated SHORAD vehicles get more/better sensors, radar, SAMs instead of ATGMS, etc. Agreed. For a cannon, I think 30-35mm is the sweet spot. Hell, the Bradley's 25mm gun seems plenty sufficient going up against Russian threats in Ukraine. As for wheeled vehicles and even some tracked ones, I think anything currently mounting an M2 .50 BMG machine gun should be upgraded with one of these instead: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Oshkosh_JLTV.jpg Everything from the JLTV on up needs a gun capable of shooting down drones. As for foot moble light infantry, I am not sure what the solution is. But it might involve mounting some sort of defensive weapon on a wheeled and/or tracked robotic vehicle that can accompany platoons or squads when on the move. A modernized mule packing an M230 30mm cannon would be nice to have for dealing with multiple ground and air based threats. I can now see where the talk of restructuring the current squad by adding a third fireteam to control drones and robotics makes sense. The rifle squad is going to need this level of organic capability just to survive the modern battlefield. WWII was an Army/Corps commander's war. Korea was a regimental commander's war. Vietnam developed into a company commander's war. The GWOT was largely a platoon leader's war. Our next war is probably going to be a squad leaders war. Decision-making keeps getting pushed down to smaller and smaller levels. With that needs to come a decentralization of certain assets, with these assets going from being a corps responsibility to much lower levels. Air defense is one of these. Corps can handle the big stuff. But every tank and infantry platoon needs its own organic air defense assets to deal with the smaller and more numerous threats. Shit is evolving fast and I worry we aren't keeping pace. The .50 cal is perfectly sufficient, firepower-wise, for most drone threats, and has the advantage of being able to carry and fire a shit-ton more ammo than either 35mm or 50mm. The issue is that you need a better acquisition system and a rapid "slew-to-cue" tracking capability. Also, for certain applications an upgrade from an M2HB to an M3P .50 cal for anti-drone may be justified. IF you are up against multiple drone swarms; acquisition, tracking capability, rate of fire and a metric shit-ton of ammo will be critical. I doubt that either a 35mm or a 50mm light and reliable enough to mount as an auxiliary weapon on most vehicles will be able to come close to the rate of fire of an M2 variant, and would be totally outclassed in RoF by an M3P. Also, a heavier gun (such as a 20mm, let alone a 35mm or 50mm) will need a heavier/larger cradle, mounting system, more robust auto-slew and elevation mechanism, etc. For a lot of vehicles, it would require a complete redesign to mount these weapons. There is a reason that the AVENGER systems gun armament is an M3P and not a 20mm or larger. A 500 round bin of .50 on a light/medium tactical vehicle is easily doable; a 200-round or more magazine for something like 35mm, not so much. Let's not even get into the logistics of movement and resupply of 35 or 50mm in the amounts required or what the reload times would look like. A good thought exercise would be to think about which you would rather reload during a drone swarm attack, a Ma-Deuce or an M242 Bushmaster? Which one is easier to clear or perform immediate action on? Which one is easier to maintain? Get the acquisition/tracking down and build an effective slew and auto-acquisition system, and the 90% solution is achieved without crushing your loggies and maintenance personnel, not to mention that fielding would be a lot faster! Forgive me if I ramble here, but it's one of those days. I think what we're gonna ultimately need to do is to integrate specialized anti-drone weapons and software onto each vehicle in a mechanized platoon. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle to each platoon with an "Aegis style" C&C system. When the platoon is operating independently, it can link in to any Patriot systems or airborne systems nearby or use it's integrated radar to provide anti-drone and SHORAD coverage. And if its weapons aren't sufficient for the task, take control the rest of the platoons anti-drone weapons. Then add an anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicle at the company level that can link in to the big boy ADA stuff while controlling all the anti-drone/ SHORAD vehicles dispersed to the platoons for when the company operates together and so on up the line. Maybe make it the XO's vehicle, or maybe add a permanent slot directly under the XO for the ADA LT, maybe make him 3rd in charge of the company? I know they like to group specialties at BN and high levels, but as an infantryman, we always had problems with the specialist BN or BGD dumped on us. Whether it was because of their lack of physical fitness or lack of field craft, or lack of understanding what we did, it was always something and we were always picking up their slack. Now granted that was in the '80's and I don't know what the WoT changed in that regard, but back then they were always problematic. Hopefully the WoT sorted them out, but somehow I doubt it. I believe living and working together provides better knowledge, training and integration for both the ADA and the Infantry LT's and NCO's as they must learn about each others needs and equipment, and how to best to incorporate it into their planning. I remember several times my LT telling them "We're setting up here, set your stuff up where you think it needs to go." because he didn't know how to best employ the supplementals. Invariably, they didn't dig fighting positions, or set up camo nets, or anything else. They parked their vehicles and stayed inside with the heater running. Just my 0.02 cents on a druggy rainy day. As far as my beloved light infantry, I have no idea how to keep them relevant without bulking them up with lightweight vehicles ranging from ADA to artillery and everything in between. And if we do that, how light are they anymore... Is conventional light infantry still a viable force now-a-days?Maybe Project Walrus was what we needed for transportation, I don't know. Hell, maybe Starship can do it, again I don't know. I just know that watching russian infantry dying by the hundreds ever day, while bringing warmth to my heart, makes me concerned when I think about what would happen to my old light infantry units in this war. Totally agree on the integration part; the best conventional tactical unit I was in was 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment, as we lived integrated. As for the target acquisition piece, the ADA and FA communities have been working together for a long time to build what they were calling when I was there the "Fires Functional Network". I have been away from the game for a little while now, but I assume that they are far along with the integrated air picture and EW network to send Fire Control - level data pretty far down, as even a decade ago the discussion was what data sets Infantry Company mortar teams needed to receive and provide. I expect that getting "good enough to shoot down a category 1 or 2 UAS" data to most maneuver units is in the "relatively easy to do" category (rockets, artillery, mortars, and missiles would of course be a tad harder). Here’s another couple of hypothetical questions: -Do you see “medium” (meaning circa 90-105mm) AAA having any place in the future toolbox? What if this vehicle was blended with a “direct fire support vehicle”, so it looked like a Booker with secondary AAA function? -Do you see a potential for “heavy” AAA (155mm) using a new SPAG with that capability built in, and with multi-function fuses? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:14:34 PM EDT
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Live, war in Ukraine: US Secretary of State Antony Blinken makes a surprise visit to Kyiv
The US secretary of state, who is due to meet Volodymyr Zelensky, arrived in the Ukrainian capital on Tuesday morning to reassure of the United States' continued support, and to promise a flow of weapons, at a time when Russia is conducting an offensive in the Kharkiv region. 04:58 AM URGENT US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on surprise visit to Ukraine The head of US diplomacy, Antony Blinken, arrived in Kyiv on Tuesday morning for a surprise visit supposed to reassure the Ukrainians of the United States' continued support, and to promise a flood of weapons, at a time when Russia is conducting an offensive in the Kharkiv region, in the north-east of the country. Blinken, who is on his fourth visit to Kyiv since the start of the Russian invasion in February 2022, arrived in the Ukrainian capital by night train from Poland and is due to meet President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday, according to an Agence France-Presse journalist accompanying him. "This trip is primarily intended to send a strong signal to reassure the Ukrainians who are clearly in a very difficult situation, both because of the intensification of fighting on the eastern front, but also because the Russians are now expanding their cross-border attacks into Kharkiv," a senior US official told reporters on board the train carrying the secretary of state. In particular, Blinken intends to "detail how our assistance will be implemented in a way that strengthens their defenses and allows them to regain the initiative" on the battlefield, he added on condition of anonymity. The visit, which had not been announced in advance, comes a few weeks after the US Congress voted to release a massive $61 billion package for Ukraine, which had been stranded for several months caught up in domestic political issues in the United States in the middle of an election year. Since then, the United States has released some $1.4 billion in military aid from its stockpiles, mainly Patriot and NASAMS anti-aircraft systems that Ukraine desperately needs to deal with the Russians, as well as ammunition for artillery. Russia launched a surprise offensive on Friday against the Kharkiv region, Ukraine's second city, in the north-east of the country, near the common border, achieving "tactical successes" by the admission of the Ukrainian General Staff. "It's clear that [the Russians] are throwing everything they have into the east, and the extension of the fighting in Kharkiv is representative of this strategy of trying to throw everything they have against the Ukrainians," the U.S. official said. "But we are confident that the Ukrainians will get better and better at pushing back the Russians as the help from the United States and other allies and partners reaches them," he said. During his visit, Blinken is also scheduled to meet with his Ukrainian counterpart, Dmytro Kuleba, and members of civil society. Among the topics under discussion is a bilateral defense agreement that the United States hopes to conclude before the NATO summit in July in Washington. "The negotiations are in their final phase. We are very close" to a defense agreement, the U.S. official said. 21:29 URGENT A new aid package for Ukraine will be announced "in the coming days", according to the White House A new aid package for Ukraine will be announced "in the coming days," Jake Sullivan, US President Joe Biden's national security adviser, said at a press briefing on Monday, adding that the United States is doing "everything humanly possible" to supply weapons to Ukraine, which is facing the opening of a new front north of Kharkiv. Kyiv has been warning for weeks that Moscow could try to attack Ukraine's northeastern border regions, as the country faces delays in Western aid and a lack of soldiers. 20:43 Russia's military reshuffle shows Vladimir Putin's "frenzied will" to continue the war, says the US State Department The United States believes that the dismissal of the Russian defense minister shows that President Vladimir Putin is determined, regardless of the cost of the war in Ukraine, the State Department spokesman said on Monday. "This is a further indication of Putin's frenzied desire to continue his war of aggression against Ukraine, despite the fact that it represents a significant burden on the Russian economy and causes heavy losses for Russian troops," Vedant Patel told the press. 20:31 Olaf Scholz and the Nordic countries call for more aid to Ukraine German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and his Nordic counterparts called on Monday at a meeting in Sweden for an urgent increase in aid to Ukraine, which is facing a new Russian assault near Kharkiv. "We will support Ukraine for as long as it takes," the chancellor said at a press conference in Stockholm. Germany, which announced in April that it was sending an additional Patriot air defence system to Ukraine, is urging its European allies to follow its example. Berlin "hopes that other European countries will follow, because at the end of the day we need a lot of ammunition and artillery tanks and air defense systems," the chancellor said. "We need to do more. It is very important that the debate does not stop there, but that the real decisions are taken throughout Europe," Scholz insisted. Ukraine is urging its Western allies to send air defence systems, including Patriots, which are particularly effective in intercepting ballistic missiles. Several European countries, including the Netherlands, have them. "The main reason for the losses suffered by Ukraine today is the lack of air defense, and we have the systems. If we had only one wish, it would be to deliver air defence systems as quickly as possible," pleaded Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, adding: "We must all feel the urgency of the situation." Nordic leaders and the German chancellor are due to discuss support for Ukraine at a dinner on Monday evening. The Nordic countries and Germany have been among Ukraine's main supporters since the Russian invasion in February 2022, with Berlin being the world's second largest donor (14.5 billion in aid in total), according to the Kiel Institute. 20:22 Kyiv is carrying out "counterattacks" in the Kharkiv region, says Volodymyr Zelensky As fighting continues on Monday in Ukraine's northeastern Kharkiv region, where the Russian army launched an offensive and seized tens of square kilometers, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky assured in his evening speech that Kyiv was carrying out "counterattacks" and that the sector was being reinforced. "We are destroying the occupier's infantry and equipment," he said. Russian forces crossed the border on Friday and are attacking in the direction of Lyptsi and Vovchansk, two localities located respectively about 20 and 50 kilometers northeast of Kharkiv, Ukraine's second city. According to Zelensky, Kiev has also seen "hostile activities", namely "sabotage groups" and "strikes", against the other border regions of Sumy and Chernihiv in northern Ukraine. 18:59 URGENT Vladimir Putin is preparing for a 'long' war with the West, according to Ukraine's Security Council secretary By replacing his defence minister, Sergei Shoigu, Vladimir Putin has announced that he is preparing for a "long" war against the West, the secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council said on Monday in an interview with Agence France-Presse. "This suggests that Putin is planning a war for a long period to come. A war not only against Ukraine, but also against the West as a whole, a war against NATO," analyses Oleksandr Lytvynenko. In addition, "more than 30,000" Russian soldiers are engaged in the new offensive led by Moscow in northeastern Ukraine, on the outskirts of the country's second city, Kharkiv, he estimated, adding that "about 50,000 [Russian soldiers] have been on the border" since Friday. But, according to him, at this stage, there is "no threat of an assault on the city of Kharkiv". 16:00 THE ESSENTIALS The essentials of Monday, May 13 at 4 p.m. The Russian offensive on Kharkiv continues. "More than thirty localities in the Kharkiv region were hit by enemy artillery and mortar fire," the head of Kharkiv's military administration, Oleh Synehubov, said on Telegram. The governor said a total of 5,762 residents have been evacuated from these areas since the fighting began. Different versions have been put forward about the collapse of a building on Sunday in Belgorod following an explosion, and there is no evidence for the moment that it was damage caused by the firing – direct or not – of a Ukrainian missile. The Ministry of Emergency Situations reported on Monday that fifteen people were killed and about twenty injured. The head of Ukrainian diplomacy, Dmytro Kuleba, for his first visit to Serbia since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, met on Monday in Belgrade with Serbian Prime Minister Milos Vucevic, who assured that "Serbia is committed to respecting international law and the territorial integrity of all United Nations member states, including Ukraine". A strike on the town of Krasnodon in Ukraine's annexed Luhansk oblast in the east of the country killed at least three people and wounded four others on Monday, Russian occupation authorities said. Ukraine claimed on Monday that it had hit an oil terminal and an electrical substation in the Belgorod and Lipetsk oblasts respectively, in western Russia, not far from the Ukrainian border. https://www.lemonde.fr/international/live/2024/05/14/en-direct-guerre-en-ukraine-le-chef-de-la-diplomatie-americaine-antony-blinken-en-visite-surprise-a-kiev_6232695_3210.html https://www.state.gov/secretary-blinkens-travel-to-ukraine-3/ 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:18:49 PM EDT
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Korea will help Ukraine in the construction of NPP power units — Ministry of Energy
NAEK "Energoatom" and the Korean company Hyundai Engineering and Construction Co., Ltd. (HDEC) will cooperate. Korea will help Ukraine in the design, construction and commissioning of new power units of nuclear power plants . The Ministry of Energy of Ukraine reported this on Monday, May 13 . Hyun Tae Kim, Yeon Choe, Herman Galushchenko, Petr Kotyn after signing the memorandum of cooperation. Photo: mev.gov.ua NAEK "Energoatom" and the Korean company Hyundai Engineering and Construction Co., Ltd. (HDEC) will cooperate. Korea will help Ukraine in the design, construction and commissioning of new power units of nuclear power plants . The Ministry of Energy of Ukraine reported this on Monday, May 13 . What kind of cooperation did Ukraine and Korea agree on? Agreements on cooperation were signed in the presence of the Minister of Energy of Ukraine Herman Galushchenko and the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Korea to Ukraine Hyun Tae Kim, acting chairman of the board of JSC NAEK "Energoatom" Petr Kotyn and executive vice president and operations director of Hyundai Engine. The document, in particular, implies the assistance of Korean partners in the development of production facilities for the localization of equipment production in Ukraine. According to Herman Galushchenko, the agreements reached are important in the process of building new power units at the Khmelnytskyi NPP, in particular, on AR1000 technology. "It is important that together with the Korean side we sign this memorandum during the war and, without waiting for its end, move forward. I am confident that together we will build energy in Ukraine that will meet the best world standards," the minister emphasized. He also thanked the Republic of Korea for the help that the Ukrainian energy sector received from this country since the beginning of the full-scale war with Russia: ten cargoes of humanitarian aid, including 20 reserve power plants and mini-excavators. Ambassador Hyun Tae Kim emphasized that the Korean side is outraged by the recent Russian attacks, which caused huge damage to the Ukrainian energy infrastructure. According to him, the Government of Republic of Korea is working to help the Ukrainian energy sector, in particular Kharkiv. At the end of last year, 60 diesel generators were handed over to the Ukrainian side. Another 200 are planned to be transferred this year. Also, Korea will increase support for Ukrainian energy through international organizations. Hyun Tae Kim noted that the signing of the memorandum between "Energoatom" and Hyundai will contribute to the development of Ukrainian-Korean cooperation in the nuclear industry, in particular, the exchange of experience in the field of nuclear technologies. "South Korea has a developed nuclear power industry and expertise in the nuclear industry. NAEK Energoatom and Ukraine as a whole are interested in the development of our cooperation with the Hyundai company, which is one of the world leaders in this market," said a representative of NAEK Energoatom Peter Kotyn. "Cooperation is important for the start of construction of nuclear units at the Khao NPP, two of which are based on modern American AP1000 technology. The new power units will replace the capacity of the Zaporozhye NPP occupied by the Russians," the Ministry of Energy said in a statement. As a reminder, the recent massive Russian shelling caused damage to Ukraine's energy system in the amount of about a billion hryvnias. The main damage was done to objects of thermal infrastructure, hydrogen generation and electricity transmission systems. We also told why the Russians resumed massive shelling of the energy infrastructure of Ukraine after the end of the heating season. https://segodnya.novyny.live/ru/koreia-dopomagatime-ukrayini-v-budivnitstvi-energoblokiv-aes-minenergo-172691.html |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:46:11 PM EDT
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 LOL, I posted this video and didn't even catch the name.
 
 
 
 
 
 
            📍 Katsap rag hung in Hlyboky, Kharkiv Oblast ⚔️ As a result of yesterday's fighting, the enemy managed to capture either the entire village or its main part. Studentska Street and parallel to it are in question. 📍http://deepstatemap.live/#16/50.2559/36.4283
🐷 Katsapa with a rag in the center of Ohirtsevo 📍 Visual confirmation of the presence of the enemy in the settlement. It is interesting to note that the footage shows "Ahmat-chaya" fighters participating in the activation in Kharkiv region. ⚔️ Now the swineherds are trying to gain a foothold in Gatyshchi and climb to Vovchansk, where battles are already taking place on the outskirts of the city, and there are also attempts by Muscovites to enter the settlement, as evidenced by the footage of RDK fighters. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01:
Wait for them to show up for a few weeks and then say something! Two more weeks to flatten the curve...  Seriously, stringing out the F16s is so stupid. STFU about the damn planes that you're NOT delivering in any kind of timely fashion. Reminder: Russia started massing for the invasion in March 2021. Pilot and ground crew training could have started in September, when it became very clear that it was not just "exercises," surplus planes could have been identified then, and they could have had F16s in Ukraine flying missions before the Surovikin line was completed. IF certain leaders had been serious about providing militarily significant aid to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:03:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: BREAKING Ukraine claims drone strike on Putin’s helipad at Sochi, in what might’ve been an attempt to get Putin. Putin claimed to be 12KM away when it happened, “several helicopters” claimed damaged. Britain concludes bilateral agreement to provide $3.7B per year in military aid for ten years. Wow. Very doable. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:13:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:15:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Breaking, or repeating an old story? Ukrainian propaganda? https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-defense-system-installed-beach-100400721.html And a video about Putin's Palace there, just because it shows like a real-life movie villain.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbCOYnp_fAIt's old, but I hadn't heard a damage assessment. That may very well be propaganda, they need some morale boosters right now, and I suspect some of that is being delivered. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:46:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:49:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2024 12:56:07 AM EDT
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Today in Belgrade, I met with the Head of the Serbian Parliament @AnaBrnabic.
We agreed to strengthen parliamentary cooperation between Ukraine and Serbia. I thanked Serbian parliament for taking part in the Crimea Platform's parliamentary dimension. I also thanked Ana Brnabic for Serbia's humanitarian assistance to Ukraine during the first two years of Russia's full-scale aggression, when she led the Serbian government. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:01:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Do you actually think all 62 billion in aid has somehow arrived across the entire 700-mile front already? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:05:55 AM EDT
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Once again, I want to note that while the lack of aid to Ukraine greatly contributed to what we are seeing right now in #Kharkiv, the key problem was still the command that failed to prepare for a well-known Russian offensive.
The units were simply not prepared to fight. It's not only a fortifications issue; it's a lack of cohesiveness, poor communication, bad positioning, and poor training of the stationed units. The good news is that the person responsible for this in Kharkiv was swiftly removed, however I am concerned that this may just be scapegoating. The bad news is that our highest military and political leadership doesn't like negative reports, and units/commands that report problems are frowned upon. This leads to commanders unwilling to ask for help and report the real state of affairs, instead trying to blur away problems and hoping that they will never bubble up. This is a problem that stems from the highest leadership, not from the bottom. Here is an exclusive video showing how Russian troops are moving uncontested in large groups, clustered up west of #Vovchansk. Please understand that while everyone is looking for positive news, we have real stakes here, and blind trust doesn't work. Also, while our leadership makes mistakes, it should not stop us from supporting Ukrainian people and Ukrainian soldiers. Geolocation details: 📍50.265359, 36.794540 Slava Ukraini.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:11:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOHGOTSDAYUM! At least he died all warm and toasty! |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:22:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:24:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Two more weeks to flatten the curve... Seriously, stringing out the F16s is so stupid. STFU about the damn planes that you're NOT delivering in any kind of timely fashion. Reminder: Russia started massing for the invasion in March 2021. Pilot and ground crew training could have started in September, when it became very clear that it was not just "exercises," surplus planes could have been identified then, and they could have had F16s in Ukraine flying missions before the Surovikin line was completed. IF certain leaders had been serious about providing militarily significant aid to Ukraine. We could have announced joint military training, using the 101st Airborne and 82nd Airborne on Ukraine's border with Belarus and Russia too, late in 2021. Intelligence and hindsight rarely act in a coordinated way. Europe and the United States are waking up finally. I'm hoping Putin discovers that the USA isn't going to stop hurting him, his troops, his economy, his goals and plans. WW III is in progress. The sooner we act accordingly, the quicker it will end. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:45:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I suspect they have been refurbishing some of their stockpiles by now. Unless they got a donation from another country. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Allegedly a recent video. I suspect they have been refurbishing some of their stockpiles by now. Unless they got a donation from another country. That or the Ukranians/someone else started making them. Ukraine was already working producing the Grim/Grom/Hrim ballistic missile and the Neptune AShM before the war. I can't imagine a Tochka U missile would be beyond them. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:46:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Breaking, or repeating an old story? Ukrainian propaganda? https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-defense-system-installed-beach-100400721.html And a video about Putin's Palace there, just because it shows like a real-life movie villain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbCOYnp_fAQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Capta: BREAKING Ukraine claims drone strike on Putin’s helipad at Sochi, in what might’ve been an attempt to get Putin. Putin claimed to be 12KM away when it happened, “several helicopters” claimed damaged. Britain concludes bilateral agreement to provide $3.7B per year in military aid for ten years. Breaking, or repeating an old story? Ukrainian propaganda? https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-defense-system-installed-beach-100400721.html Earlier, on Oct. 1, Ukraine’s military intelligence division, HUR, reported that it had successfully conducted a drone attack on a Russian helicopter parking pad in Sochi’s Adler district And a video about Putin's Palace there, just because it shows like a real-life movie villain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbCOYnp_fAYou’re right, the article date is today but in skimming the title it says “last October.” I failed to catch that. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:56:27 AM EDT
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Russia: train derailed by Ukrainian drone attack (images)
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