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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:08:03 PM EDT
I've been trying to decide between a Ruger American Rimfire and the Savage FV-SR for my first .22lr suppressor host. I just came across this bad boy (previous thread on it was Archived).
Kinda ugly, but it takes 10/22 mags, has an adjustable stock, free float rail, threaded... everything I wanted out of the box. I was leaning FV-SR but once I put a stock on it I'd be close to the RPR. 
 Street price looks to be around $400 but everywhere I've looked is sold out. I think it was just released this year? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:11:09 PM EDT
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I've seen two at local gun/pawnshops already. $389 and tax.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:17:33 PM EDT
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I've seen two at local gun/pawnshops already. $389 and tax. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you fondle it at all? One review complains about a rough action and the stock feeling flimsy |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:29:57 PM EDT
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I've seen two at local gun/pawnshops already. $389 and tax. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Woof, they could have done a much better job on the aesthetics on that chassis. I suppose it's meant for performance over looks though but damn.
An American is on my short list as I really want a bolt 22 but I think I'll stick with the original |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:39:32 PM EDT
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Woof, they could have done a much better job on the aesthetics on that chassis. I suppose it's meant for performance over looks though but damn. An American is on my short list as I really want a bolt 22 but I think I'll stick with the original |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:40:05 PM EDT
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I just got a CDNN email with these for $449. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:40:47 PM EDT
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Saw one a couple weeks ago at a gun show. Latest KY Gun add has it on sale.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:43:31 PM EDT
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Saw one a couple weeks ago at a gun show. Latest KY Gun add has it on sale. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:44:50 PM EDT
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I built one. At 100 yards, from a rest, capable of 3/4 MOA with CCI Green Tag. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:45:16 PM EDT
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Fugly
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:46:55 PM EDT
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Woof, they could have done a much better job on the aesthetics on that chassis. I suppose it's meant for performance over looks though but damn. An American is on my short list as I really want a bolt 22 but I think I'll stick with the original Not so patiently waiting for Boyd's to ship my At One for my RAR  The quality on their molded stocks isn't the best. My has a slight turn in it and fails the dollar bill test 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:47:46 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/TZZREnEm.jpg I built one. At 100 yards, from a rest, capable of 3/4 MOA with CCI Green Tag.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:58:01 PM EDT
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Flame me all you want, I think it's FUGLY.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:00:02 PM EDT
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Flame me all you want, I think it's FUGLY. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:02:35 PM EDT
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Mine is going back to ruger again.(read it's already been back once). They can't seem to get the handguard and barrel aligned properly.
Aside from that it's a fun little gun. My son loves it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:03:03 PM EDT
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Looks like a phased plasma rifle in the 40watt range.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:05:52 PM EDT
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You will be much better off with the B22 FVSR
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/B22FVSR They fixed the crappy mags on the MK II ( I have a MKII and they are not that bad but are worse than the 10/22 mags) and cheaper. Plus unlike the MKII they stock is actually usable from the factory. Pony up another 130 for a stock (I went for a rimfire hunter) and you are GTG. picture of my rimfire for reasons of pictures |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:07:27 PM EDT
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Savage mags really really suck
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:08:56 PM EDT
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You will be much better off with the B22 FVSR http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/B22FVSR They fixed the crappy mags on the MK II ( I have a MKII and they are not that bad but are worse than the 10/22 mags) and cheaper. Plus unlike the MKII they stock is actually usable from the factory. Pony up another 130 for a stock (I went for a rimfire hunter) and you are GTG. picture of my rimfire for reasons of pictures |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought one, complete with the same Boyds stock (Pepper), DIP bottom metal and a 20 Minute rail......Not all that impressed with it quite honestly... |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:12:08 PM EDT
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In what way did it not meet your expectations? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:13:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After all the messing around gathering up the "right parts" etc....It was not all that accurate. It's not a 1 MOA gun by any means. More like 2 MOA. That's not really acceptable for the level of tinkering I had to do to bring it all together. Mine was nails with the crap stock just not very comfortable. Stock did not change accuracy for me. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:14:11 PM EDT
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 Attached FileThe primary reason I bought it was to use as a cheap trainer. It has the same trigger, grip, LOP and bolt throw as my .308. In that role I think it's a great product. (Providing they can get their shit straight) |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:15:01 PM EDT
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Do you feel the same way about ALL chassis rifles or just that particular chassis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Flame me all you want, I think it's FUGLY. That said, it's purpose isn't really supposed to be a ultra accurate precision rifle despite the name. This is simply a trainer rifle for the centerfire Ruger Precision Rifle. This is obvious by making the bolt pull length equal on both rifles, despite the .22lr obviously needed much much less pull length. OP, if all you want is a fairly accurate and inexpensive bolt action .22lr then any of the Ruger American Rimfire rifles will work. So will that Savage FV-SR. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:16:04 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26478/267DCC9E-D12E-41F8-8306-A43593665801-459796.JPG The primary reason I bought it was to use as a cheap trainer. It has the same trigger, grip, LOP and bolt throw as my .308. In that role I think it's a great product. (Providing they can get their shit straight) |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:16:26 PM EDT
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That's a shame.How did it shoot from the factory? Mine was nails with the crap stock just not very comfortable. Stock did not change accuracy for me. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:18:23 PM EDT
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Is the stock flimsy or decent? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:18:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Worse. The stock did make some improvement but not much. I was hoping when I bought it that that would be the ticket....I think maybe I just got a lemon after hearing everyone rave about how well they shoot. Mine does not. I dislike overall cheapness of the gun and the garbage factory stock (the B22 improved on those a bit) but accuracy was never an issue. I think you got a lemon barrel. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:20:17 PM EDT
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It's not flimsy at all. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:20:24 PM EDT
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Dump it, sell the stock and get a Ruger lol. I dislike overall cheapness of the gun and the garbage factory stock (the B22 improved on those a bit) but accuracy was never an issue. I think you got a lemon barrel. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds great in that case. I would prefer a 16" barrel but a sub $400 rimfire with a decent (adjustable even) stock is hard to pass on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:26:02 PM EDT
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Palmetto has them @$529
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:26:32 PM EDT
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It is fugly for sure.
*I have a couple chassis rifles. I might get over the look if they make one in 22mag. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:34:51 PM EDT
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Worse. The stock did make some improvement but not much. I was hoping when I bought it that that would be the ticket....I think maybe I just got a lemon after hearing everyone rave about how well they shoot. Mine does not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a shame.How did it shoot from the factory? Mine was nails with the crap stock just not very comfortable. Stock did not change accuracy for me. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:45:12 PM EDT
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Good god that's an ugly rifle. Not so patiently waiting for Boyd's to ship my At One for my RAR The quality on their molded stocks isn't the best. My has a slight turn in it and fails the dollar bill test
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/3FAB775A-3357-45AE-BD27-99ADB9F0BED1-459769.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86377/CEFAF248-9306-4160-8BA5-9EEAFE0E0F42-459771.JPG 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:48:28 PM EDT
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My new goal in life is to have a shooting bench in my spare bedroom and a range outside the window  I just need to trim a few branches and finish my new backstop and I can shoot out to 150 yards from there
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:26:42 PM EDT
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My gripe with the RPR is the plastic stock and plastic chassis. They would have a winner if it was an aluminum chassis like the MDT LSS-22 which is where my money will go when I get around to upgrading my bone stock RAR this year. It will cost a couple hundred dollars more than the RPR once complete but it will be top quality and no plastic. It's available for about a half dozen different rifles currently with more on the way.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 6:08:00 PM EDT
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My gripe with the RPR is the plastic stock and plastic chassis. They would have a winner if it was an aluminum chassis like the MDT LSS-22 which is where my money will go when I get around to upgrading my bone stock RAR this year. It will cost a couple hundred dollars more than the RPR once complete but it will be top quality and no plastic. It's available for about a half dozen different rifles currently with more on the way. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1735/0149/products/web_nav__0003_LSS-22_0364_a4059e1f-ee5f-44a7-8fb5-5498da0e081e_1024x1024.jpg?v=1500934014 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 6:54:33 PM EDT
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You can't expect a $400 rifle to come in a $400 chassis 
We both know Ruger could have put that gun in a metal chassis for far less than MDT charges anyways, even if it would increase the base cost of the rifle. MDT makes their standard american chassis out of aluminum instead of plastic for a reason, and it's not just so they can charge more. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:03:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't mention anything about cost
We both know Ruger could have put that gun in a metal chassis for far less than MDT charges anyways, even if it would increase the base cost of the rifle. MDT makes their standard american chassis out of aluminum instead of plastic for a reason, and it's not just so they can charge more. When it comes to bolt action rimfires ceiling hits pretty hard when you get close to 1000 and into the price range of the better rifles. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:07:37 PM EDT
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like this gun isnt the magic bullet that I was hoping it to be. I like the Savage but the complaints about their mags are widespread. How is Savage with warranty/returns? I dealt with Ruger's C/S on a SP101 that had timing issues, and they bent over backwards to make it right.
I just want all the accuracy I can get under $500. If I go with the Savage or RAR, I can afford to put a nicer scope on it. Budgeting around $250 for glass. I want a nice hole puncher at 100 yards. Bolt guns have never been my thing and I'm hoping to get into them this way |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:16:45 PM EDT
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I just want all the accuracy I can get under $500. If I go with the Savage or RAR, I can afford to put a nicer scope on it. Budgeting around $250 for glass. I want a nice hole puncher at 100 yards. Bolt guns have never been my thing and I'm hoping to get into them this way Are you planning to shoot exclusively at 100 yards? No hunting or 50 yard shooting? If so just get a centerfire scope with correct parallax. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:21:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about this then. You can't expect a $929.00 ruger rimfire to sell as much or bring as much revenue as a $529 ruger rimfire. When it comes to bolt action rimfires ceiling hits pretty hard when you get close to 1000 and into the price range of the better rifles. Secondly, I assure you this rifle was never designed to be sold in the quantities that the regular American Rimfire, American Rimfire Target, and American Rimfire Compact are sold in. It's only purpose is to offer a training rifle for the RPR and an OE option for people who want a chassis rifle. In either one of those scenarios the price is a lot less important than what the rifle offers. If you want a trainer then you want a gun that most accurately mimics your RPR and whether this gun has a plastic chassis or metal this is the only way to do that. If you want a chassis rifle then you already know the costs involved of purchasing a aftermarket chassis for a rifle. If you wanted something inexpensive then you just have to open a tapco catalog. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:25:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like this gun isnt the magic bullet that I was hoping it to be. I like the Savage but the complaints about their mags are widespread. How is Savage with warranty/returns? I dealt with Ruger's C/S on a SP101 that had timing issues, and they bent over backwards to make it right. I just want all the accuracy I can get under $500. If I go with the Savage or RAR, I can afford to put a nicer scope on it. Budgeting around $250 for glass. I want a nice hole puncher at 100 yards. Bolt guns have never been my thing and I'm hoping to get into them this way If I didn't have an RPR I probably wouldn't have bought the RPRf. It's biggest value is really just as a trainer to it's big brother imo |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First off, there is no way a metal chassis brings it's msrp up to basically the same point their RPR is at. The RPR is the proof that Ruger can do the job right and still bring a gun to market at a price that basically no one else was competing at. Secondly, I assure you this rifle was never designed to be sold in the quantities that the regular American Rimfire, American Rimfire Target, and American Rimfire Compact are sold in. It's only purpose is to offer a training rifle for the RPR and an OE option for people who want a chassis rifle. In either one of those scenarios the price is a lot less important than what the rifle offers. If you want a trainer then you want a gun that most accurately mimics your RPR and whether this gun has a plastic chassis or metal this is the only way to do that. If you want a chassis rifle then you already know the costs involved of purchasing a aftermarket chassis for a rifle. If you wanted something inexpensive then you just have to open a tapco catalog. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:30:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like this gun isnt the magic bullet that I was hoping it to be. I like the Savage but the complaints about their mags are widespread. How is Savage with warranty/returns? I dealt with Ruger's C/S on a SP101 that had timing issues, and they bent over backwards to make it right. I just want all the accuracy I can get under $500. If I go with the Savage or RAR, I can afford to put a nicer scope on it. Budgeting around $250 for glass. I want a nice hole puncher at 100 yards. Bolt guns have never been my thing and I'm hoping to get into them this way I've heard mixed things about the Ruger American's accuracy, mine shoots great and is a standard model. I would think if you went with their target model that you would have better odds of a good shooter, although their synthetic stock has the replaceable portion for a cheek riser. https://www.ruger.com/products/americanRimfireTarget/specSheets/8348.html |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:31:20 PM EDT
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Wow, that's hideous!
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:32:52 PM EDT
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I think you are on the right track. If I didn't have an RPR I probably wouldn't have bought the RPRf. It's biggest value is really just as a trainer to it's big brother imo Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like this gun isnt the magic bullet that I was hoping it to be. I like the Savage but the complaints about their mags are widespread. How is Savage with warranty/returns? I dealt with Ruger's C/S on a SP101 that had timing issues, and they bent over backwards to make it right. I just want all the accuracy I can get under $500. If I go with the Savage or RAR, I can afford to put a nicer scope on it. Budgeting around $250 for glass. I want a nice hole puncher at 100 yards. Bolt guns have never been my thing and I'm hoping to get into them this way If I didn't have an RPR I probably wouldn't have bought the RPRf. It's biggest value is really just as a trainer to it's big brother imo What scope do you have on yours? I got to handle one and I’m buying one but not sure about the scope yet. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First off, there is no way a metal chassis brings it's msrp up to basically the same point their RPR is at. The RPR is the proof that Ruger can do the job right and still bring a gun to market at a price that basically no one else was competing at. Secondly, I assure you this rifle was never designed to be sold in the quantities that the regular American Rimfire, American Rimfire Target, and American Rimfire Compact are sold in. It's only purpose is to offer a training rifle for the RPR and an OE option for people who want a chassis rifle. In either one of those scenarios the price is a lot less important than what the rifle offers. If you want a trainer then you want a gun that most accurately mimics your RPR and whether this gun has a plastic chassis or metal this is the only way to do that. If you want a chassis rifle then you already know the costs involved of purchasing a aftermarket chassis for a rifle. If you wanted something inexpensive then you just have to open a tapco catalog. OP get that sucker!! Stainless 18" Ruger Second, every rifle they sell they hope to do one thing which is maximize profits. They might be trying to sell this to an 18 year old kid who cannot afford their centerfire rifle and hopes to play with this until he can. |
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