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Posted: 4/11/2008 2:28:09 PM EDT
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How much of your performance do you think you can attribute to having gone easy on squats? When I ramped my weight back up this week, everything else took an immediate dive.  W/O 'B' again today. Squats went well but I wasn't able to move the weight up. I may have to slow the progression to 2x or 1x weekly. I don't know if I'll continue squatting 3x weekly if that's the case. My presses went alright. I pushed 4/4/3. I'll carry the same weight over to next Wednesday. Rows were outstanding again, although I had a nasty inner-ear thing happen after erecting myself from my first set. Like a gun had gone off and I wasn't wearing any ear pro. 
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Posted: 4/11/2008 6:32:13 PM EDT
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Trying to get up the strength to go to the gym now. I wish I had known about this routine 10-12 years ago. I could probably have easily hacked the squatting 3x a week. |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 9:35:27 PM EDT
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I don't know how either of you guys have been squatting 3x/wk for as long as you have, you both seem to have milked a lot of progress out of the routine. Rippetoe calls it Starting Strength for a reason after all.
That loud noise or pain in your ear(s) is probably just a blood vessel in your brain(s) bursting, I wouldn't worry about it. Goddamn Stanford bastards just tied the game at 6. Top of the 5th, beautiful sunny day in Corvallis. Thought you should know. |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 9:38:38 PM EDT
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I didn't make it to the gym tonight.
 I had to run a few errands and by the time I got to the gym I would have had 26 minutes. Hopefully I can get my workout tomorrow after turkey hunting.
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Posted: 4/11/2008 9:40:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2008 9:51:07 PM EDT
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I feel your pain buddy. Haven't set foot in the gym since the 'kaleidoscope' episode of last Friday. The killer headache has not gone away, CPA tells me this morning to write checks to the fed & state totaling $22k, and my man Stutes just gave up a 5 run lead in the last two innings. On the bright side, the reserve of beer & muscle milk in this house is enough to sustain a division size force for several months. Good luck tomorrow. |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 10:16:50 PM EDT
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$22k? Wtf man, barricade yourself.
To be honest, the only way I've been able to sustain 3x a week is my rest. I've actually put more planning into my sleep schedule than anything else. Hell, the routine was already spelled out for me. I made sure to get extra rest every night the week or so leading up to it, and I try to get 8 hours religiously. A surprise 6p-6a tomorrow night isn't going to help matters, although my weekends are generally exercise-free. |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 10:57:23 PM EDT
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It's amazing how much difference an extra 30 minutes of sleep can have on performance when you're pushing the limits of your body. Are you still making progress with your squats on this schedule? If so, you've got great recuperative powers, color me jealous.
Yeah, $22k. That's $22k in addition to the quarterlies I've already paid. Bear in mind though, according to Hillary & Barack I'm getting a free ride on the backs of the working poor. So I got that going for me. |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 4:44:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2008 4:49:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2008 5:00:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VTHOKIESHOOTER]
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Made it to the gym. Since I wasn't going to do squats, I just added 5lbs to everything. To add further insult to injury I decided to do 2 sets of dumbbell snatches to failure.
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Posted: 4/14/2008 2:18:24 AM EDT
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I dunno about tomorrow. I was supposed to get off work at 2am last night but agreed to stay til 3. Then they needed me til 5. Then 6. Then the fucking painter came by for an estimate.
 I'm turnin in. |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 8:48:45 AM EDT
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I don't know what this evening brings. I am feeling under the weather. Wore out from turkey hunting on Saturday + a trip to the gym and out drinking later that night. I hope it is just allergies, and not a cold coming on.
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Posted: 4/14/2008 7:16:14 PM EDT
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I have returned from Week 11 day 1, w/o 'A'. Squats felt great since reacquainting myself with the heavy weight. Bench was outstanding with only one missed rep, and DL's were terrible. I just couldn't get my starting position right, wound up psyching myself out.
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Posted: 4/14/2008 10:36:32 PM EDT
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I did pretty well tonight, or so I thought. Squats were good, (no groin pain) as was bench. I cranked up 5 more lbs on the DL's, then on the 5th rep I felt pain in my lower back......shrugged it off and did my dips. Now my lower back is in agony, right at my L4 and L5. I don't know what the hell happened. I don't think my back rounded and I don't have any tingling in my leg but something is wrong. I hope all I did was tweaked it a bit and that I will be ok tomorrow.
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Posted: 4/15/2008 6:30:40 AM EDT
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Ok, now that I have had a nights rest, the back is better........still not right but better. I would describe it as "tender" and I am having no symptoms of a blown disc, not right now any way. Just pain right in the center of my back at the waste line.
I am thinking a weeks rest may be called for at this point. |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 11:52:38 AM EDT
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I'd encourage you to take a deload week, but not rest. You're the only who can be the judge, though. |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 4:44:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VTHOKIESHOOTER]
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I made it through the day cruising timber but sitting down is putting pressure right on my back. Doesn't feel to comfortable. I am able to function, I just.......hurt. Feels like I got hit in the back with something or as if I landed on the rock. I'll take it day by day. Perhaps a deload week is what the doctor asked for.
Wish I knew what I did to the back.
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:23:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AGW]
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W/O 'B', feeling very worn out by it today, but it was good nonetheless. I got stuck in the hole in the middle of my first and last sets. Had to unload the bar and quickly pick up 2 or 3 more reps to complete.
Managed 4/4/4 on my presses with the same weight that had me at 5/3/3 last week, so I may be able to move it up again. Rows were primo, 5 all across. |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:33:47 PM EDT
[#20]
You're going to get kicked out of the gym if anyone sees you doing that. |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:38:50 PM EDT
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Damn you for quoting that!
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:40:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Steve_T_M]
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*badum-CHING!*
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Posted: 4/16/2008 5:21:44 PM EDT
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I am taking the evening off. The wife wants me to spend some time with her and I have yard work that needs to be done.
Funny about the "stuck in the hole" comment. My wife bought a set of bands that she uses at home and she was doing squats with them, but only 1/4 squats I said "You need to go down all the way......like I do" She gave me a  and I gave a  and a  I'll make up workout "B" tomorrow. |
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Posted: 4/17/2008 6:44:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VTHOKIESHOOTER]
[#24]
As much as I hate it, I am going to set this evening out as well. I am beat, my back still hurts and I have to pack up for the trip out of town.
If my back still hurts on Monday, I am going to go to the doc. |
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Posted: 4/18/2008 2:36:54 AM EDT
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So, my schedule has been MWF on Rippetoe, T/Th/Sat run. The runs alternate between HIIT and distance (~3 miles at most). They seem to have gotten easier and easier, so today I went 20 laps in the pool instead. ...
 I've decided to drop the Saturday runs. I figure I'll just earn my Saturdays off with good performance on Tues. and Thurs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2008 12:50:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AGW]
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Don't mean to keep whoring my own thread...
I attempted a 10# squat increase on Monday and have struggled to get my full numbers all week until today w/ a 5/5/4. Felt good to get it over with. After bench, I chose not to pull due to a GM on Wednesday, so I headed out to the dip/pullup thing. Some kooky bitch was straddling the dip bars with her thighs doing yoga stretches... or something. I've seen her before, using the cable rowing machine by throwing her legs up on the weight stack and rowing, shakra crap with her hands...  I stood there for about 5 minutes, tapping my foot, but to no avail. I was interrupting her workout. |
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Posted: 4/22/2008 12:46:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AGW]
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Strong squats today, on an empty stomach no less. The bitch who stole my dips was back though. She walked right up to the rack while I was resting between press sets and stole a plate while I stared at her. It really helped me launch through the set though when I had to slam another plate on to emphasize that I was using the equipment.
Moving on to rows, they sucked today. Don't really know why but I just couldn't get everything to fire in the right order as far as shoulders retracting, lats arching, elbows through the roof. I'll blame the woman. |
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Posted: 4/22/2008 6:56:44 AM EDT
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Last night was pretty weak. I went light on everything, and it was a good thing because I was drained. I did have to kick an idiot out of the power rack who was doing curls in it, mean while there were 7 open benches scattered throughout the gym.
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Posted: 4/23/2008 2:19:20 AM EDT
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WTF, she took the plate off the bar? Sounds like she's trying to provoke you into asserting your dominance. Next time maybe you give her a swat on the ass and tell her get back over and straddle the dip bars 'til you get there. |
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Posted: 4/23/2008 8:04:35 AM EDT
[#30]
I think she's coming on to you in some kind of weird way. Pooper, pics, etc.
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Posted: 4/23/2008 10:45:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Tonight was a good workout. Went light, but I went with a lot of intensity. Giving my self only 25 seconds of rest per working set.
As the night has wore on, I have some rather stiff knee pain in my left knee. I have had problems with it in the past. Downed 2 Aleve no worries. The gym was desolate which was nice. |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 10:20:52 AM EDT
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I seem to have tweaked something in my low back on the right side, so I'm going to try some front squats today to keep my spine from losing any extension. I'll report back later.
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Posted: 4/25/2008 2:20:19 PM EDT
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I couldn't ignore my ego and just went for it. My back feels fine though.
 Knock on wood...The only thing out of the ordinary were my presses today. I went 4/4/3 and felt like I couldn't rest enough, even with 4-5 minutes between sets. Try again Wednesday. |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 11:17:48 AM EDT
[#34]
Taggage for later humor.
Just for fun, start hitting on the filthy hippy yoga chick. 
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Posted: 4/28/2008 3:28:58 PM EDT
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I switched to the low bar squat position today after my back incident. My shoulder flexibility will improve after a few more days of using it. It definitely helped posterior activation out of the hole. I think I'll stick with it, since that what it says to do in the bible, er Starting Strength anyway.
5s all across for bench and a set of deadlift warmups. |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:54:12 AM EDT
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Work out B
Everything was weak as shit. Rows felt better than average but I went 4/3/4 on the squats and 4/4/4 on the overhead press. I wasn't even at my max's.
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Posted: 5/1/2008 10:33:57 AM EDT
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You too? I had to lower my squat weight while I got reacquainted with the low-bar position and my hams are absolutely wrecked. Don't know why I bothered with high-bar without WL shoes even though I'd managed to make it work for me. Presses, not so great. Something like 3/4/3? I haven't even written it down yet. Rows, pull-ups, yadda yadda just get me the fuck OUTTA THERE. |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 3:49:15 PM EDT
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Dead to the world! Fell back asleep after writing the above and didn't wake up until now.
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Posted: 5/1/2008 10:24:11 PM EDT
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Think about all the muscle growth that happened while you napped.
Well, that's my excuse for dozing off during the day. 
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Posted: 5/2/2008 6:57:26 AM EDT
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I have another shitty ass long day ahead of me. Forget the gym, I just hope I don't fall asleep in the woods.......gotta work tomorrow as well. Looking forward to hibernating on Sunday.
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Posted: 5/2/2008 2:33:34 PM EDT
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Lowered my squat weight again to adjust for the low bar. I can definitely lift more with it, but I can't balance yet. Too used to being more vertical. Feels great though.
Bench was so-so. I made a 5lb increase for 4/4/4, so I'm pretty sure I can nail it next Wednesday. On a side note, I've put on a good 6-8lbs in the last couple of weeks without adding inches to my waist, so I'm feeling pretty good. I haven't consciously been bulking but I've definitely been on a farm diet lately (whole eggs, whole milk, chicken w/ skin, etc). I'll see how far I get before I look like Cartman on Weightgainer ProX 2000. |
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Posted: 5/5/2008 3:14:30 PM EDT
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Week 14, day 1, w/o 'B'. My squats felt very good and stable. The low bar didn't take long to get used to. My rows weren't terrible, nor were my pullups. But my presses, my god. 3/3/1, I think. Last Wednesday I didn't even write them down, 3/1/2, maybe? I think I'm in reset-ville here, so I'll check it out one more time on Friday.
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Posted: 5/5/2008 8:39:08 PM EDT
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Workout B
5/5/5 on the squats. No problems but the weight felt heavy though. I was at 90% max, if I can walk on Wednesday I will add either 5 or 10lbs. 3/3/2 on the bench at max weight Hit my 5 reps on the DL's which was at 90% as well. After my 4th pull I noticed that the vein in my neck was looking close to popping. Did my dips (w/35lb plate) and my weighted sit ups with 45lbs plate. Beat Diner was a fresh salad with roman and spinach with the wife's home made olive oil dressing Deer meat wrapped in bacon and chicken marinaded with Italian dressing and grilled  didn't make nearly enough. Going to have to dig into a quart of cottage cheese I do believe.
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Posted: 5/7/2008 8:13:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VTHOKIESHOOTER]
[#44]
It was a good workout tonight, with the exception of me pulling my right groin muscle again.
It was the first night squatting at 100% max, went 4/4 and was trying HARD to get 4 reps out of the last set and on the way up I did some stupid reflex cheating move and felt it twinge.4/4/4 on my presses at 100% max and 5/5/5 on 100% rows. However on the last rep of each set on the rows I failed to bring the bar to actually touch my sternum.. Pull ups were good as well. Depending on the condition of my groin (icing it right now) I am going to start a morning cardio run. It seems I have gone a little over board with the eating. I am now up to I really do hate running. My cardiovascular fitness seems to need some attention anyway.
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Posted: 5/9/2008 3:33:09 PM EDT
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Workout 'B', went pretty well. I chalked up my shoulders since I was wearing a slick shirt and got
from everyone, but it was worth it. Squatted 5/5/5 with no problems to speak of except for a little too much forward drift in the hole for 2 reps and a little too much 'bounce' out of the hole for a few reps as well.Damnit if my presses weren't 4/4/4, making this the 3rd 'B' without 14-15 full reps. Reset? Oh yeah, pullups suck ass.
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Posted: 5/9/2008 7:58:20 PM EDT
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My nagging groin pull prevented me from doing any kind of good squats. After a few light warm up sets, I loaded it up for what I squatted on Wed. No dice. Dropped it down to 60% and squeaked out some reps.
I went 4/3/4 on the bench. Feeling good about my bench numbers. I am improving slowly, but steadily. I was apprehensive on my DL's because of the groin thing. I was at my 100% max, but halfway up on my 4th pull I felt it twinge so I just dropped the bar. I knew if I tried to make the pull I would do something stupid. |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 7:56:33 AM EDT
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Just read Rippetoe's advice on how to rehab a groin pull. I guess for the next two weeks I will be doing nothing but light squats. I hope that clears up the groin pull I have been plagued with for the past 2 months.
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Posted: 5/12/2008 3:53:36 PM EDT
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Felt a little left-side groin tenderness in the hole of my first set today.
It feels fine now, but I'll keep an eye on it and be careful. I was worried about my bench today: if I didn't get 5/5/4 or better, I'd have to reset, but I pushed 5/5/5 real strong. I also had to drop the 5lbs I attempted to add to my DL to keep my chest up. My first 3 reps at the new weight just weren't going to happen, so really I feel like I had only 1 good pull today short of my warm-ups.All in all, I'm pleased. Nothing hurts like it shouldn't and I've got a few hours to go before work. |
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Posted: 5/12/2008 6:21:15 PM EDT
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I am actually taking the night off. The groin pull is bothering me and I am gong to wait the 4 days and follow Rippetoe's method of rehab 100%.
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Posted: 5/13/2008 9:18:24 AM EDT
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I'm subscribing this thread. Heading out to find Rippetoes book today...if I can stand up after last night.
Thanks AGW. |
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