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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:18:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:38:39 AM EDT
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I was just surprised all the Mexicans were skinny enough to fit in the stud bays, assuming they used regular metal stud framing.
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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:52:56 AM EDT
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I think what the filmmaker was trying to accomplish/convey with that raid imagery/aftermath/discovery is that the horror is here in America but hidden, even in an otherwise idyllic, normal-looking middle-class neighborhood.
As the team was moving into place, someone was out walking their dog. Just a rando neighbor, totally clueless as to what was happening in the house next door. You're right--logistically for a cartel it makes no sense, but when you experience the film, you look past the weak logic behind the imagery and understand what the imagery is trying to convey. As long as we're poking holes, the entire assassination scene makes no sense--but the filmmaker wanted/needed to have a sense of continuity to the action, rather than jumping from time/place to another time/place--and the Mexican layer had to be the one to do it (alone) for dramatic reasons. It would have been (dramatically) far less satisfying to the narrative if a crew of twelve half-drunk messican shooters in an up-armored pickup had just driven through the gate and laid waste randomly to the entire compound. It had to be Benicio Del Toro (and alone) to obey the laws of satisfying drama. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:54:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:56:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:04:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can. It’s… unpleasant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I couldn't imagine the stink from decomposing bodies inside an occupied interior space. How about trying a fragmentation grenade. Of course no one has been able to tell me their experience after the fact me how bad it it was. 
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:10:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think what the filmmaker was trying to accomplish/convey with that raid imagery/aftermath/discovery is that the horror is here in America but hidden, even in an otherwise idyllic, normal-looking middle-class neighborhood. As the team was moving into place, someone was out walking their dog. Just a rando neighbor, totally clueless as to what was happening in the house next door. You're right--logistically for a cartel it makes no sense, but when you experience the film, you look past the weak logic behind the imagery and understand what the imagery is trying to convey. As long as we're poking holes, the entire assassination scene makes no sense--but the filmmaker wanted/needed to have a sense of continuity to the action, rather than jumping from time/place to another time/place--and the Mexican layer had to be the one to do it (alone) for dramatic reasons. It would have been (dramatically) far less satisfying to the narrative if a crew of twelve half-drunk messican shooters in an up-armored pickup had just driven through the gate and laid waste randomly to the entire compound. It had to be Benicio Del Toro (and alone) to obey the laws of satisfying drama. I like your symbolism but the corpses weren’t in a advanced state of decomposition and were were just starting to get ripe; they hadn’t been walled up very long. I say it was a way to store the corpses short term. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:11:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i know how to put 285-lbs on her fast. Quote HistoryQuoted: i know how to put 285-lbs on her fast. 
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks like a man. Quote HistoryI imagine that in Mrs. Swans voice from MAD tv. “He looooook like aaaaa man!” ?? |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone might keep the shovel. Kharny The shovels were locked in the basement of the shed out back! 
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:52:13 AM EDT
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They were trying to be energy efficient. Bodies provide excellent insulation. Probably have a R of 30 or so….
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:53:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think what the filmmaker was trying to accomplish/convey with that raid imagery/aftermath/discovery is that the horror is here in America but hidden, even in an otherwise idyllic, normal-looking middle-class neighborhood. As the team was moving into place, someone was out walking their dog. Just a rando neighbor, totally clueless as to what was happening in the house next door. You're right--logistically for a cartel it makes no sense, but when you experience the film, you look past the weak logic behind the imagery and understand what the imagery is trying to convey. As long as we're poking holes, the entire assassination scene makes no sense--but the filmmaker wanted/needed to have a sense of continuity to the action, rather than jumping from time/place to another time/place--and the Mexican layer had to be the one to do it (alone) for dramatic reasons. It would have been (dramatically) far less satisfying to the narrative if a crew of twelve half-drunk messican shooters in an up-armored pickup had just driven through the gate and laid waste randomly to the entire compound. It had to be Benicio Del Toro (and alone) to obey the laws of satisfying drama. It also established part of BDT’s backstory. I’d love to see a prequel with how he became who he is in Sicario. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 11:57:37 AM EDT
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Why did Littlefinger fill up a bus with bodies hanging like summer sausage and then bury the bus in the series Mayor of Kingstown?
That didn't make any sense, either. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:07:02 PM EDT
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It would have been funny to wall them up with some Amontillado.
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes for good movie This. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:12:16 PM EDT
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Tap tap tap.
Fucking awesome movie.  "Sicario" - Border Scene HD I have kind of a man boner for Steve Forsing.  |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:16:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think her character is perfect, her juxtaposition against Alejandro and Matt makes the movie. If she had been some unrealistic badass the movie wouldn’t have been nearly as interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i love the 2 movies, one of the best and the soundtrack - but emily blunt is annoying with her SJW bullshit in the movie and in real life. I think her character is perfect, her juxtaposition against Alejandro and Matt makes the movie. If she had been some unrealistic badass the movie wouldn’t have been nearly as interesting.  Attached FileYeah they could have wrote her in as a gun slinging, karate fighting, cartel killing badass and the movie would’ve automatically become a steaming pile of retarded horse shit. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:22:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why the fuck would someone drywall up some bodies into a wall? I assume It would stink and liquify and ruin the walls anyway in pretry short time. Also that isnt Chandler. Reminds me I need to see this movie from the beginning. Reference “Chandler” as in Arizona? Who knows. Lots of illegals in Arizona. To your point. It’s a fucking movie. (Ie: Air conditioning works very well to keep corpses in check) Here in Phoenix, we call Parker & Sons for all our a/c concerns. Maybe the movie eluded to that. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:25:27 PM EDT
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Why did those guys think they could glide through a check point with rifles on their laps?
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd guess it would be a temporary way to store bodies for the cartel Or maybe just a more practical way than moving the bodies however many miles to the desert Just kill em and stash them in cartel properties, abandon property when done Had the house not been raided, it may have just sat there vacant for years after the cartel people moved out. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:31:45 PM EDT
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You're asking me how a watch works. For now we'll just keep an eye on the time...
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:35:51 PM EDT
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Studs for walls are 1 1/2" X 3 1/2"
How many bodies are skinny enough to be 3 1/2 inches in depth standing up? |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 12:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Studs for walls are 1 1/2" X 3 1/2" How many bodies are skinny enough to be 3 1/2 inches in depth standing up? Maybe they were Guatemalans and not Mexicans? And as someone that nearly had a heart attack just digging a turtle pond for my wife, screw burying the bodies. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:21:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Studs for walls are 1 1/2" X 3 1/2" How many bodies are skinny enough to be 3 1/2 inches in depth standing up? Fuckin builders probably didnt even follow code. Sheesh. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reminds me I need to see this movie from the beginning. Reference “Chandler” as in Arizona? Who knows. Lots of illegals in Arizona. To your point. It’s a fucking movie. (Ie: Air conditioning works very well to keep corpses in check) Here in Phoenix, we call Parker & Sons for all our a/c concerns. Maybe the movie eluded to that. Spent a lot of time in Chandler. That wasnt chandler. More like casa grande. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assuming they would eventually be found maybe it was a bit of a mind fuck thing. Don't cartels have a history of doing humiliating things to bodies to make themselves even more fearful? Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:53:47 PM EDT
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And when they start investigating, everyone is dry heaving, the forensics techs are wearing tyveks and respirators, and the big boss man just walks into the place like it's nothing. What's up with that? Plus there were two guys hanging out there, TV guy and shotgun guy, and they didn't seem to mind.
Anyway as others observed it's just a movie plot device designed to show us how horrible the situation is at the border, and justify the dramatic overreaction. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Assuming they would eventually be found maybe it was a bit of a mind fuck thing. Don't cartels have a history of doing humiliating things to bodies to make themselves even more fearful? Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. Dry aged? |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks like a man. Quote HistoryThen I guess I want to have anal with that “man” |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 1:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i love the 2 movies, one of the best and the soundtrack - but emily blunt is annoying with her SJW bullshit in the movie and in real life. So an FBI agent who wants to follow the law and proper procedure is bad.
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Studs for walls are 1 1/2" X 3 1/2" How many bodies are skinny enough to be 3 1/2 inches in depth standing up? IIRC they used metal stud framing in the movie. We use a lot of ClarkDietrich, so I'm familiar with their offerings. They're largest Prostud is 6" for interior partitions. Past that you're looking at cold formed structural studs. They're largest I think is 12" or 14". Any of that is highly unusual for 8' partition walls. I'd say that house was custom framed for dead Mexican storage. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think her character is perfect, her juxtaposition against Alejandro and Matt makes the movie. If she had been some unrealistic badass the movie wouldn’t have been nearly as interesting. her character was perfect, she was an Affirmative Action hire, promoted to a position several layers above her ability where she was a hazard both to herself and her team members |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC they used metal stud framing in the movie. We use a lot of ClarkDietrich, so I'm familiar with their offerings. They're largest Prostud is 6" for interior partitions. Past that you're looking at cold formed structural studs. They're largest I think is 12" or 14". Any of that is highly unusual for 8' partition walls. I'd say that house was custom framed for dead Mexican storage.  Did you see a sign outside of my house saying "Dead Mexican Storage" or something?? BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So an FBI agent who wants to follow the law and proper procedure is bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i love the 2 movies, one of the best and the soundtrack - but emily blunt is annoying with her SJW bullshit in the movie and in real life. So an FBI agent who wants to follow the law and proper procedure is bad. Bad, no. Scarce as hen’s teeth? Yes. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: her character was perfect, she was an Affirmative Action hire, promoted to a position several layers above her ability where she was a hazard both to herself and her team members She was to represent the "innocent" wanting to "play by the rules" against enemies who had absolutely NO rules. Matt, Alejandro & the "Team" knew what was what ...  BIGGER_HAMMER
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tried to rationalize it and just decided to enjoy the movie.. after all, it's only a movie. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spent a lot of time in Chandler. That wasnt chandler. More like casa grande. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reminds me I need to see this movie from the beginning. Reference “Chandler” as in Arizona? Who knows. Lots of illegals in Arizona. To your point. It’s a fucking movie. (Ie: Air conditioning works very well to keep corpses in check) Here in Phoenix, we call Parker & Sons for all our a/c concerns. Maybe the movie eluded to that. Spent a lot of time in Chandler. That wasnt chandler. More like casa grande. I’ll never get over Casa Grande. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dry aged? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Assuming they would eventually be found maybe it was a bit of a mind fuck thing. Don't cartels have a history of doing humiliating things to bodies to make themselves even more fearful? Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. Dry aged? Jerky? For preservation? |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:44:48 PM EDT
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This clip of cgi used in movie was cool
 SICARIO | VFX Breakdown by Oblique FX (2015) |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 2:45:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Dbl tap
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:11:10 PM EDT
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Plot device.
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:12:00 PM EDT
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I tried to watch that movie but just turned it off about halfway when they started with the love story garbage.
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:17:30 PM EDT
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I was visiting my uncle in Chandler 2 weeks before the nationwide debut.
I couldn't figure out why it was playing in so many theaters around him until that scene. FYI it was also the of the blood moon and I got to see that through a camera van in a Hampton Inn parking lot in Tucson. I bought 4 cases of beer and the entire hotel came out to party in the parking lot.. That may be my favorite memory of my 4 week road trip around the country. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:21:03 PM EDT
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Sicario. The drama is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the story will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Sicario's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Sicario truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Sicario's existential catchphrase which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ??
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:21:49 PM EDT
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They also drove forward into the house, but the back of the MRAP came through the wall. Dumbest entry technique ever.
Delta wouldn't be wearing PVS 14s with skull crushers, hell I'm better equipped. They also don't have plates in their plate carriers. Still and outrageously badass movie. I would not pull out of Emily Blunt after I disappointed her. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:25:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: her character was perfect, she was an Affirmative Action hire, promoted to a position several layers above her ability where she was a hazard both to herself and her team members Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think her character is perfect, her juxtaposition against Alejandro and Matt makes the movie. If she had been some unrealistic badass the movie wouldn’t have been nearly as interesting. her character was perfect, she was an Affirmative Action hire, promoted to a position several layers above her ability where she was a hazard both to herself and her team members This. Reading between the lines… they needed someone like her who would “go along” with what they were doing. She was vulnerable, because she wanted to be one of the cool guys, and also didn’t have the fortitude to put a stop to what she viewed as wrong. I think her character was well done. She wanted to be “one of the guys” so bad that it wasn’t even a red flag when they were like “we want you for this operation because you’re such an elite operator on your regional FBI SWAT team that all these Delta operators just have to have you on the team…” |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:26:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jerky? For preservation? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Assuming they would eventually be found maybe it was a bit of a mind fuck thing. Don't cartels have a history of doing humiliating things to bodies to make themselves even more fearful? Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. Dry aged? Jerky? For preservation? 
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:28:16 PM EDT
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Spoiler alert: [Spoiler]the war on drugs and the government is the villain in the film and in real life [/spoiler] At least they look cool though. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Assuming they would eventually be found maybe it was a bit of a mind fuck thing. Don't cartels have a history of doing humiliating things to bodies to make themselves even more fearful? Yeah, try moving into that neighborhood and not wondering if there are people in the walls. I go with mindfuck. Fire/ explosion would still leave remains no? 16” oc studs wouldn’t fit a person let alone 2x4 construction. More like 24” or 19.2 oc and 2x8 min. Seems like an organized way to keep bodies though. Like their own little caskets pre made. Dry aged? Jerky? For preservation? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/jamon_iberico-2267966.jpg Seen that on an outdoor show ‘Nicks Wild Ride’. I think it may have been aged much longer maybe 15yrs or so. I would not be able to eat it even though it is sliced transparent thin. Looks gross. |
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Posted: 2/5/2022 3:33:34 PM EDT
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it's a shit story where a guy kills children to get revenge against their father. the sicario is trash and retroactively deserves what happened to him.
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