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Posted: 5/4/2023 3:59:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:04:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:05:01 PM EDT
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They are Navy compliant from what I read
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:05:48 PM EDT
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The guy who designed them was a Prince fan.
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:14:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: I understand that they are for training... But Why? What's the point? What are the other colors and/or designations? Training ammo. So idiot feds did not load training ammo in duty mags. You would think they could just say don’t shoot JHP ammo at the practice range, that’s for carry. But people in large numbers are stupid. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:16:37 PM EDT
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I have a 1000 ct bag of once fired 5.56 brass that has that purple tinting. Been thinking of processing it into 300blk brass and loading it with Nosler Ballistic Silvertips.
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:27:01 PM EDT
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It's just easy to spot. Probably the same reason for the purple paint laws.
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy who designed them was a Prince fan. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:38:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:40:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Training ammo. So idiot feds did not load training ammo in duty mags. You would think they could just say don't shoot JHP ammo at the practice range, that's for carry. But people in large numbers are stupid. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:46:47 PM EDT
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I can't swear that this is universal but the training guns we used were
Red - inert Blue - shot lasers for film reactive targets White - shot gas cartridges that only cycled the slide. They had plugged barrels but simulated how the real gun operated, including malfunctions. We used these when fighting against role players in red man suits. I think that's what it was but it's been a long time. Might be the gas guns were green instead of blue. Man, my memory is slipping. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 4:48:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, the fact that they exist proves that the average federal LEO that carries a gun is too stupid to otherwise tell the difference between duty and training ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Training ammo. So idiot feds did not load training ammo in duty mags. You would think they could just say don't shoot JHP ammo at the practice range, that's for carry. But people in large numbers are stupid. They have to account for the lowest common denominator. Most are great, but some are capable of mind-bending stupid shit. Consider the government's obsession with diversity hires. |
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Posted: 5/4/2023 7:12:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2023 7:44:28 PM EDT
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I was one of three people that spec'ed out this round for Customs and Border Protection. The purple color was chosen so as not to conflict with previously established training round colors, and one of the few colors that would 'take' on the case and not rub off.
This round was forced on us by higher-highers whinging about the cost of qualifying with duty ammo, which we had only been doing since 1924. These would be the stupid people StevenH referred to above. So glad I'm retired, and never to respond to a Congressional inquiry again. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: as not to conflict with previously established training round colors ARF. It's reach id mighty and powerful. Thanks for taking the time to answer!! 'other colors'?... There are other colors of tinted brass? Thanks again! |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:17:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:23:31 AM EDT
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The significance of the purple case and why it is “training only” is that each lot of training ammo is sampled less for pre-distribution QC testing than duty ammo. Don’t know if that means 1 out of 10,000, or 1 out of 100,000, but duty ammo is tested more - more rounds are pulled out of the lot for QC.
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Posted: 5/5/2023 12:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ARF. It's reach id mighty and powerful. Thanks for taking the time to answer!! 'other colors'?... There are other colors of tinted brass? Thanks again! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: as not to conflict with previously established training round colors ARF. It's reach id mighty and powerful. Thanks for taking the time to answer!! 'other colors'?... There are other colors of tinted brass? Thanks again! Not that I'm aware of, but I've been out of the game for a while. There was a post above talking about laser, inert, gas non-projectile, etc. We wanted yellow, Winchester and Federal said it would take to the casings, but that was already taken by a gas-based video simulation-based training round. As far as I know, CBP was the first to colorize actual live rounds. We did save the taxpayers a lot of money, can't deny. But like any organization, we have our 'special children' that should have never made it through the academy or probation. Nobody gets hurt if an idjit expends duty ammo on paper, but an agent shooting training FMJ during a gunfight might get my men killed. Hence the purple color. And @NOVA1234 is absolutely correct, lot acceptance testing is VERY stringent for CBP ammo, with training ammo being more lenient. But the purple coloration was only for ammo identification. The acceptance testing would have been the same regardless of the color of the case. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 2:13:35 PM EDT
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Outstanding, and thanks!!
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Posted: 5/5/2023 2:14:56 PM EDT
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