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Posted: 1/23/2022 11:17:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Morane-Saulnier MS.760 Paris - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/ms760-1365490844-2249580.png Snort Snodgrass and Jive Kirby tried quite hard to market that jet a decade ago and nobody was interested.  Paris Jet at Sun 'n Fun |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 2:34:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. It's what I figured. So many ex-mil beaters (or not so beat) available that it chokes the market for new build civvy "fighter-esque" a/c....which also lack the cachet of being actual mil fighters. We need another military Power to collapse into economic meltdowns, so they sell off their older-gen a/c and mountains of spares. Wonder if T-7s will be available on the civilian market, for the extremely well-funded... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For the cost of these, you could have bought a couple of L-29's. See the problem? Yep. It's what I figured. So many ex-mil beaters (or not so beat) available that it chokes the market for new build civvy "fighter-esque" a/c....which also lack the cachet of being actual mil fighters. We need another military Power to collapse into economic meltdowns, so they sell off their older-gen a/c and mountains of spares. Wonder if T-7s will be available on the civilian market, for the extremely well-funded... We passed a similar letter from a Hollywood high roller in the '80's that wanted to buy a Harrier. Price no object, but preferred quick delivery. That was good for a laugh, then back to dispositioning salvages from the shop. |
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Posted: 1/23/2022 2:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Snort Snodgrass and Jive Kirby tried quite hard to market that jet a decade ago and nobody was interested.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VcTwmO6_psQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Morane-Saulnier MS.760 Paris - https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/ms760-1365490844-2249580.png Snort Snodgrass and Jive Kirby tried quite hard to market that jet a decade ago and nobody was interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VcTwmO6_psI expect the first item on the design criteria list is that a two place jet hot rod should at least look like a fighter. |
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Posted: 2/8/2022 12:58:22 AM EDT
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Did someone say bring money?
http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/3-harrier-aircraft-package/ http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n496wm-cessna-a-37b-dragonfly/ Interesting site. http://courtesyaircraft.com/ |
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Posted: 2/8/2022 9:06:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did someone say bring money? http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/3-harrier-aircraft-package/ http://courtesyaircraft.com/aircraft/n496wm-cessna-a-37b-dragonfly/ Interesting site. http://courtesyaircraft.com/ 
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Posted: 2/13/2022 10:45:05 PM EDT
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Paul Allen had a MIG29, I know it was sold but not sure where it ended up?
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Posted: 2/15/2022 2:59:01 PM EDT
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I used to see Serbian G-2 Galebs for sale. Pretty simple single engine design.
But best bet is the L-39. Lots of support for those and a good, cheap all around jet trainer. |
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Posted: 2/15/2022 6:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But best bet is the L-39. Lots of support for those and a good, cheap all around jet trainer. If someone took a couple of L39 drop tanks and modified them to be luggage bays you'd have the ultimate personal sports jet transport. And your excuse for continuing to wear the cool-guy helmet and mask is that it's only pressurized up to 20,000 feet  |
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Posted: 2/15/2022 7:04:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to see Serbian G-2 Galebs for sale. Pretty simple single engine design. But best bet is the L-39. Lots of support for those and a good, cheap all around jet trainer. I saw two of them at a little air show back in October. It was a pretty impressive demonstration.  Attached File Attached FileOwned by a husband and wife and stored at an airport local to me.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/15/2022 9:26:47 PM EDT
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There's an L39 based at KMLB- I can never catch the owner to beg a ride- I'd even pay for the fuel.
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote History@djohn Very cool. Thanks for sharing. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 11:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paul Allen had a MIG29, I know it was sold but not sure where it ended up? I thought a Draken founder bought it for his private jet. |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 11:59:09 PM EDT
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Company in Anchorage had some Chezch L39 jets and rocket pods for them... BUT no DD license so he got in trouble. Security aviation, the guy was arrested in 2006 with the whole kit and caboodle , unpapered suppressors, stolen jets, mail order bride, fake passport, fake id's, 20k in a briefcase/bug out bag, fake FBI and CIA creds, fake war medals(US and foreign)...
https://www.alaskajournal.com/community/2006-02-12/despite-federal-raid-security-aviation-still-flying |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 12:03:40 AM EDT
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Russia would sell Thier decommission fighters and fly you to Russia for flight school. A guy at the local airport purchased a fulcrum from Russia. They gave him an authentic helmet and 2 weeks of training. He's not filthy rich but flys it regularly out of Columbia SC.
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Posted: 3/13/2022 11:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd want one I could put on blocks and just fire up and rev the engine every now and then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I vaguely remember seeing Czech MiG-21's on Trade-A-Plane for under $50K, back in the mid 2000's. I wanted one just for my back yard. I think a few were around the $29K mark. They were extra work needed Fixer Uppers.  I'd want one I could put on blocks and just fire up and rev the engine every now and then. Some old woman in CT did exactly that, would fire up the MiG-17 just to rile up the neighborhood and local cops. |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 10:42:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some old woman in CT did exactly that, would fire up the MiG-17 just to rile up the neighborhood and local cops. That would be hilarious to see. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 12:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Company in Anchorage had some Chezch L39 jets and rocket pods for them... BUT no DD license so he got in trouble. Security aviation, the guy was arrested in 2006 with the whole kit and caboodle , unpapered suppressors, stolen jets, mail order bride, fake passport, fake id's, 20k in a briefcase/bug out bag, fake FBI and CIA creds, fake war medals(US and foreign)... https://www.alaskajournal.com/community/2006-02-12/despite-federal-raid-security-aviation-still-flying I remember when that story broke, he had pictures of himself in uniforms with medals and insignia from around the globe. Searching google, articles say he wasn’t convicted on the weapons charges. The TV show American Greed did an episode on him, dude stole like $50 million from someone’s trust fund. What a scum bag. |
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Posted: 5/8/2022 4:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can ya hear it???? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Belgium_Fouga_Magister.jpg There was (may still be) a Magister based in Heber, Utah, that I occasionally saw and heard fly. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 7:24:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Joe Gano has a couple of MiGs that he flies out of New Castle (Wilmington), Delaware. Haven't seen it in a few years, but he used to blast off every Sunday morning in his MiG-23. He's got a 21 and some older ones. Warbirds of Delaware. He usually would put it in full afterburner right at 8:00 am and piss off the poeple in the Burger King at Hare's Corner for his take off run. |
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