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Posted: 2/23/2021 6:15:56 AM EST
Did we do this one yet?

Link Posted: 2/23/2021 6:48:30 AM EST
He needed protectin’ and servin’
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 6:59:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2021 7:04:49 AM EST by glklvr]
Cliff notes:

Dude was walking down the middle of the street.
Somebody called it in.
Police show up and want to talk to him.
He says no and keeps walking.
They tell him he's being detained.
He wants to leave.
Fight ensues and he gets arrested.


eta: from Plano PD's FB page, looks like they released the guy and have started an admin investigation. The chief fell all over himself about the race of the guy so it'd be safe to assume if the guy was white there be no apology or internal investigation.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:08:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2021 7:09:58 AM EST by fxntime]
Stupid cops.

Guy looked like the typical ''walking in snow'' person. Did the cops cite all the house owners who didn't have their sidewalks shoveled? [if there were sidewalks]

If they didn't, and there were sidewalks then I'd consider the cops were under the influence of ''RMA.'' They HAD to know why the guy was walking in the tire tracks and if he wasn't actually impeding traffic, what was the big deal?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:14:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Stupid cops.

Guy looked like the typical ''walking in snow'' person. Did the cops cite all the house owners who didn't have their sidewalks shoveled? [if there were sidewalks]

If they didn't, and there were sidewalks then I'd consider the cops were under the influence of ''RMA.'' They HAD to know why the guy was walking in the tire tracks and if he wasn't actually impeding traffic, what was the big deal?
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He was black so they figured there was a chance he had a warrant.  Had it been a white guy they would have cruised on past.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:17:26 AM EST
We're gonna protect you and serve you whether you like it or not!

Worry about the guy being cold. Tackle him down into the snow.

Cops were out of line from the onset. Dude could've been a little more cooperative but cops over re-acted.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:18:03 AM EST
facepalm
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:21:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:21:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
We're gonna protect you and serve you whether you like it or not!

Worry about the guy being cold. Tackle him down into the snow.

Cops were out of line from the onset. Dude could've been a little more cooperative but cops over re-acted.
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When you are cold as hell and just trying to get home, stopping to talk to ANYONE tends to piss you off, especially when the other person is ordering you to stand around because of some BS ''we care about you'' speech.

Oh, and I hope the Karen who called ran into a telephone pole while trying to call the cops. If she was Sooooooo worried about the guy, why didn't SHE offer to drive him home?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:25:36 AM EST
I let them walk around in the cold. Wait long enough and one way or another it won’t be anyone’s problem anymore. Don’t want to ID? Cool Ill be back when you get hit by a car or freeze to death. We can get prints off a frozen corpse pretty easy or the hospital tag will have his info. If he makes it home, awesome.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:26:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:28:45 AM EST
I love how common it is for people to be charged with "resisting" with no underlying charge.

Walking down the street committing no crime, no PC for any detainment, but somehow they decide to big dick you and suddenly when you get angry about being falsely detained, you have now committed a crime.

I'm sure they will be loved tenderly.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:29:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Initiated a terry stop because a guy is walking in the street after a snowfall when the sidewalks aren't cleared in a t shirt.

Were these cops in suspended animation somewhere for the past decade? "Excuse me black man, i'd like to get your name and destination to understand what business you have in the white part of town? We've gotten calls..."
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So being Aimless is not a crime?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:29:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:29:35 AM EST
Im starting to see why black people hate the police.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:30:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
There was a thread here about a woman who was out for a walk. a Texas cop came up to her and started bothering her. She figured he was a perv so she ran away, he tackled her and arrested her for walking in the street, or walking on the wrong side . He then claimed he thought this suburban lady out for a walk "was a lookout for a burglary ring" There was much defense of charging people
for walking the wrong way on the edge of the road as a "investigative technique" "I do that all the time"
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-Texas-woman-arrested-after-failing-to-stop-and-talk-to-police-officer
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:30:19 AM EST
See no one messes with Asians
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:30:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:32:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
I let them walk around in the cold. Wait long enough and one way or another it won’t be anyone’s problem anymore. Don’t want to ID? Cool Ill be back when you get hit by a car or freeze to death. We can get prints off a frozen corpse pretty easy or the hospital tag will have his info. If he makes it home, awesome.
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Myself and most people I know have never had a problem walking home without police intervention or assistance.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:33:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:34:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Roddy556:


Myself and most people I know have never had a problem walking home without police intervention or assistance.
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Originally Posted By Roddy556:
Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
I let them walk around in the cold. Wait long enough and one way or another it won’t be anyone’s problem anymore. Don’t want to ID? Cool Ill be back when you get hit by a car or freeze to death. We can get prints off a frozen corpse pretty easy or the hospital tag will have his info. If he makes it home, awesome.


Myself and most people I know have never had a problem walking home without police intervention or assistance.


You could probably put that on a resume with how fucking stupid most people are these days.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:35:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:35:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mspo1019:
Im starting to see why black people subjects of the crown hate the police.
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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:35:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CAsoldier:
I let them walk around in the cold. Wait long enough and one way or another it won’t be anyone’s problem anymore. Don’t want to ID? Cool Ill be back when you get hit by a car or freeze to death. We can get prints off a frozen corpse pretty easy or the hospital tag will have his info. If he makes it home, awesome.
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I became acclimated to this last storm and was working and walking around in the snow and ice in a t shirt and khakis. Wonder why the cops think everything is any of their business?   Free men do free shit.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:35:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2021 7:36:46 AM EST by chmodx]
Young cops always think that the "we want to talk to you" justifies pestering someone repeatedly over something minor when they say they don't want to talk.  Let the population thin itself out if they want to walk in the snow.  Stop this whole welfare-check-everything bullshit.

Mark back in service, go fucking relax at 711.

She's clearly going to be promoted soon.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:38:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mspo1019:
Im starting to see why black people hate the police.
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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:39:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Goodrich:
Had it been a white guy they would have cruised on past.
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Nah.  If he had been white they would have given him a ride home.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:45:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mspo1019:
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These fuckin' guys obviously missed the smile and wave memo.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:46:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:

The  police used to be happy to give female college students "rides back to their dorm" until two cops tag teamed a washed up porn star on duty on the trunk of their police car, got sued for rape and the city paid her. Cops kept their jobs
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Roddy556:


Myself and most people I know have never had a problem walking home without police intervention or assistance.

The  police used to be happy to give female college students "rides back to their dorm" until two cops tag teamed a washed up porn star on duty on the trunk of their police car, got sued for rape and the city paid her. Cops kept their jobs

Allegedly cops near reserves up here used to pick up drunk natives and drive them home and they were often found frozen to death in a snow bank. Whether they froze on their way inside, left their home after getting there, or never actually got taken home I don't know.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:49:20 AM EST
Drive by guy, slow down, ask ''everything cool sir?" person says yes, ''OK, have a good day sir.'' Drive on.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:49:31 AM EST
I have never understood the desire to "get involved" in things that some cops seem to have.
(Especially in this day and age.)
When I was signing out, if the only person I'd spoken to all evening was my partner, I considered that a great tour.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:52:02 AM EST
It’s like they can’t help themselves.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:53:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By runcible:
I have never understood the desire to "get involved" in things that some cops seem to have.
(Especially in this day and age.)
When I was signing out, if the only person I'd spoken to all evening was my partner, I considered that a great tour.
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[residentcrew]So you were a do nothing cop?[/residentcrew]
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:56:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Drive by guy, slow down, ask ''everything cool sir?" person says yes, ''OK, have a good day sir.'' Drive on.
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It is truly that easy. Even if he says "FUCK YOU!",  < Radio, the male seems fine and does not want any police assistance, I'm clear>
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:56:56 AM EST
I usually toss out the walking/driving while black argument, but that looked racist as fuck.

Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:56:59 AM EST
The level of racism is unprecedented. The cops were white and the entire area was covered with white snow. Everything was white. It is sicketating.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:58:21 AM EST
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Now he needs to get a lawyer and sue. Fuck that cop and PD. No QI, she clearly violated his rights.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:58:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By glklvr:
Originally Posted By runcible:
I have never understood the desire to "get involved" in things that some cops seem to have.
(Especially in this day and age.)
When I was signing out, if the only person I'd spoken to all evening was my partner, I considered that a great tour.
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[residentcrew]So you were a do nothing cop?[/residentcrew]
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I worked in the ghetto. I did a lot.
Some tours, you just went from job to job to job for the entire tour.
However, I never saw the upside in creating joinder when it was not absolutely necessary.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:04:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Initiated a terry stop because a guy is walking in the street after a snowfall when the sidewalks aren't cleared in a t shirt.

Were these cops in suspended animation somewhere for the past decade? "Excuse me black man, i'd like to get your name and destination to understand what business you have in the white part of town? We've gotten calls..."
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It’s like they wake up in the morning and think; “How can I further damage the reputation of LE today”
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:10:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:11:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Stupid cops.

Guy looked like the typical ''walking in snow'' person. Did the cops cite all the house owners who didn't have their sidewalks shoveled? [if there were sidewalks]

If they didn't, and there were sidewalks then I'd consider the cops were under the influence of ''RMA.'' They HAD to know why the guy was walking in the tire tracks and if he wasn't actually impeding traffic, what was the big deal?
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I am pretty sure that in Plano there is no law saying homeowners have to shovel their sidewalks.

ETA:  Not saying it was a good arrest.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:14:08 AM EST
Press conference with mom.  Man is 18 years old, living with parents, he was walking home from work at Walmart.  He worked late because they were shorthanded with call ins.  Mom offered to pick him up but he said forget it, it's just a 5 minute walk.  Looks like they're lawyering up.  I don't have a problem with that.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:14:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Initiated a terry stop because a guy is walking in the street after a snowfall when the sidewalks aren't cleared in a t shirt.

Were these cops in suspended animation somewhere for the past decade? "Excuse me black man, i'd like to get your name and destination to understand what business you have in the white part of town? We've gotten calls..."
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In some of the towns around here people walk down the middle of the road even if the sidewalks are clear. Cops would be really busy if they arrested everyone for doing that.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:14:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bitmap:


I am pretty sure that in Plano there is no law saying homeowners have to shovel their sidewalks.

ETA:  Not saying it was a good arrest.
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Originally Posted By Bitmap:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Stupid cops.

Guy looked like the typical ''walking in snow'' person. Did the cops cite all the house owners who didn't have their sidewalks shoveled? [if there were sidewalks]

If they didn't, and there were sidewalks then I'd consider the cops were under the influence of ''RMA.'' They HAD to know why the guy was walking in the tire tracks and if he wasn't actually impeding traffic, what was the big deal?


I am pretty sure that in Plano there is no law saying homeowners have to shovel their sidewalks.

ETA:  Not saying it was a good arrest.


Pick up that can. I mean, shovel that sidewalk.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:17:05 AM EST
Back in the late nineteen hundreds, before the proliferation and maybe even the advent of cell phone cameras, I worked with a mostly minority, mostly male population. This population was firmly in the clutches of the criminal justice system (drug offenses). I believed them then, that the police somehow enforced drug laws harsher on the poor and minorities, and that the prosecutors called for stiffer sentencing.

I saw it, and it was the hardest thing to explain then.


I don't know the arrest or contact record for this officer, but Jesus...I have to wonder what skeletons of bias does she drag out of the closet each day that uniform goes on?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:18:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By josepha1:


Pick up that can. I mean, shovel that sidewalk.
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Originally Posted By Bitmap:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Stupid cops.

Guy looked like the typical ''walking in snow'' person. Did the cops cite all the house owners who didn't have their sidewalks shoveled? [if there were sidewalks]

If they didn't, and there were sidewalks then I'd consider the cops were under the influence of ''RMA.'' They HAD to know why the guy was walking in the tire tracks and if he wasn't actually impeding traffic, what was the big deal?


I am pretty sure that in Plano there is no law saying homeowners have to shovel their sidewalks.

ETA:  Not saying it was a good arrest.


Pick up that can. I mean, shovel that sidewalk.


Have to shovel here within 24 hours of a snowfall so people don't, dum, dum, dum, walk in the street..........
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:19:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kspeer:



So being Aimless is not a crime?
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Originally Posted By Kspeer:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Initiated a terry stop because a guy is walking in the street after a snowfall when the sidewalks aren't cleared in a t shirt.

Were these cops in suspended animation somewhere for the past decade? "Excuse me black man, i'd like to get your name and destination to understand what business you have in the white part of town? We've gotten calls..."



So being Aimless is not a crime?


He waddles,  not "walks".
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:21:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By runcible:
I have never understood the desire to "get involved" in things that some cops seem to have.
(Especially in this day and age.)
When I was signing out, if the only person I'd spoken to all evening was my partner, I considered that a great tour.
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Some people just rally like giving away taxpayer money.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:24:42 AM EST
I don't get the outrage here. A person walking out in at or near record cold in north Texas with a T-shirt on will get talked to. If he had rolled back the attitude he would have gone home.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:25:58 AM EST
Wow.

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