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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:17:23 PM EDT
[#1]
"Braces are actually stocks" will be their next decree.
As to the folding stock with regards to OAL, they already pulled that stunt with braced "firearms". |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:42:49 PM EDT
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I personally think it's a safe bet that the end result will likely be the determination that braces are stocks, so anything with a brace (or stock, of course) and a less than 16" barrel will be considered an SBR.
I'd give some consideration to them eliminating the brace / stock idea entirely and just saying anything less than 16" barrel = SBR thereby basically eliminating the pistol category for any firearm not considered a traditional pistol. I'd expect to see the pulled letter reintroduced virtually identical to what was promulgated in December. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:43:59 PM EDT
[#3]
FATF
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:45:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:46:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds.  Attached FileWOT? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. WOT? Just quoting some faggot. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:31:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And this is why we lose to the libs... discord within the ranks of gun people. Shame, shame carguym14, SHAME! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. awww.. I lol'd |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:46:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And this is why we lose to the libs... discord within the ranks of gun people. Shame, shame carguym14, SHAME! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/shame-295.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/shame-295.png Ouch,that really "burns". |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:51:23 PM EDT
[#10]
I no longer give a shit.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:53:01 PM EDT
[#11]
10+ will be designated mass magazines
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:00:39 PM EDT
[#12]
ALL centerfire cartridge "firearms" are now NFA, due to "cartridge capacity" B/S... Single shot or not.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:03:21 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And this is why we lose to the libs... discord within the ranks of gun people. Shame, shame carguym14, SHAME! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/shame-295.png You realize he's referring to a member (former?) here who subtly threatened to kill fellow gun owners for their ire at the bumpstock ban. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:09:55 PM EDT
[#14]
I just don't give a fuck anymore
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:24:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Declare all subsonic ammo contraband as “stealth assassin ammo”. Declare all supersonic ammo contraband as “long range sniper ammo”. Declare all shot shells contraband as “clamor mine rounds“. Consult “Goldilocks” Giffords to determine no ammo is “just right”. Turn ‘em in, Mr. & Mrs. America.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:24:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Anytime they want.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:26:33 PM EDT
[#17]
Suppressor parts. They're going to go full retard on machine shops selling tubes, endcaps, and unfinished cones.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:43:21 PM EDT
[#18]
I no longer give a fk what the FATF and F.gov thinks about what I should own, or shouldn't.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:48:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I no longer give a shit. Oh look! I found the shit you don’t give and I don’t give it either. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:56:27 PM EDT
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The end game is to turn the entire country into California (in terms of gun laws)
It doesn't take a mind reader. Just look to the states where gun restrictions are rubber stamped and there you have it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:00:29 PM EDT
[#21]
I just can't care anymore. Fuck 'em.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:07:41 PM EDT
[#22]
we should make them a list...and write them letters to ask
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:12:36 PM EDT
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My bet is serializing uppers.
And after that serializing barrels. If I win both I get the jackpot, or the jackboot.. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:46:24 PM EDT
[#24]
“Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds.” Fudd says what? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:39:27 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds.” Fudd says what? Lol, shhsss |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:52:09 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Braces are actually stocks" will be their next decree. They kind of are  |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:54:07 AM EDT
[#27]
Your finger now needs to be registered since you can pull the trigger as fast as you want. Therefore, your finger is a machinegun
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Posted: 4/15/2021 4:00:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Braces are actually stocks" will be their next decree. They kind of are https://i.imgur.com/QQReaF7.jpg Moot point since both are protected by 2a. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 4:15:38 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You realize he's referring to a member (former?) here who subtly threatened to kill fellow gun owners for their ire at the bumpstock ban. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And this is why we lose to the libs... discord within the ranks of gun people. Shame, shame carguym14, SHAME! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/shame-295.png You realize he's referring to a member (former?) here who subtly threatened to kill fellow gun owners for their ire at the bumpstock ban. I guess I missed that thread. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 10:25:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your finger now needs to be registered since you can pull the trigger as fast as you want. Therefore, your finger is a machinegun I heard they are making Jerry Miculek wear oven mitts for the rest of his life. 
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:09:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You realize he's referring to a member (former?) here who subtly threatened to kill fellow gun owners for their ire at the bumpstock ban. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was not, if in fact that's true. If so, my bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You realize he's referring to a member (former?) here who subtly threatened to kill fellow gun owners for their ire at the bumpstock ban. You were right on the part about us losing. Yeah,there was a huge thread during the Bumpstock fiasco, where a certain member (his account is still locked) that we'll just call J. Burns, made some veiled threats about how he kills things at 1000yds... |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Braces are actually stocks" will be their next decree. As to the folding stock with regards to OAL, they already pulled that stunt with braced "firearms". I meant next as is what they'll do after the brace decree. That's leave a lot of guns still being legal and we can't have that. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:17:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My bet is serializing uppers. And after that serializing barrels. If I win both I get the jackpot, or the jackboot.. You win a free dead dog! |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:20:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ouch,that really "burns". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/shame-295.png Ouch,that really "burns".
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:23:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. ETA- What's his new username? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:35:16 PM EDT
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My guess is the SB3 will be deemed to be a stock. Other stabilizing braces like the shockwave blade will be left alone at least for now. There is a letter stating that the shockwave blade is not a stock. But just like a woman they're known to change their mind.
With regards specifically to AR-15 pistols, I would not be surprised if they put weight restrictions on them, limiting rail length, amount and type of accessories, overall length restrictions. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:48:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't fuck with my killing things at 1000yds because of your silly toys and NFA workarounds. 
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:55:47 PM EDT
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is that basically doing away with 'ghost guns'?
top two items, declare braced 'pistols' as short barreled rifles/shotguns because thats what they are. i dont like the classification anymore than anyone else but its there. and ghost guns. im surprised they let that one get out of the gate to begin with. i suspect less than half the folks in this country own firearms. so gun owners are outnumbered from the git-go. every time whacko goes on a mass murder spree with a firearm, it puts another nail in the coffin. address that issue and your sons and daughters might actually be able to own firearms when they grow up. but it looks bleaker every year. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 2:58:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: What is the next thing the ATF is going to arbitrarily change and make new "law"? I say they will decide that overall length is measured with any folding, telescoping, or adjustable stocks in their folded or fully collapsed position. IOW, your 16" barrel rifle is now AOW as it is less than 26" long. Another option is that any part that contains any part of the definition of a firearm receiver is a receiver. So the upper and lower and bolt carrier of an AR are all receivers. And cassette triggers too. For real fun, combine the two and say that the upper is AOW, the lower is AOW, the trigger cassette is AOW, and carrier is AOW. But how do they create Laws??? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:00:12 PM EDT
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Brainstorming thread for the ATF?
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But how do they create Laws??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the next thing the ATF is going to arbitrarily change and make new "law"? I say they will decide that overall length is measured with any folding, telescoping, or adjustable stocks in their folded or fully collapsed position. IOW, your 16" barrel rifle is now AOW as it is less than 26" long. Another option is that any part that contains any part of the definition of a firearm receiver is a receiver. So the upper and lower and bolt carrier of an AR are all receivers. And cassette triggers too. For real fun, combine the two and say that the upper is AOW, the lower is AOW, the trigger cassette is AOW, and carrier is AOW. But how do they create Laws??? same way the DEA bans drugs. congress gave them the power as an agency to make 'rules', policy. like the EPA also. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:01:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I no longer give a shit. Friend of mine |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:02:29 PM EDT
[#44]
i dont know. but if you are curious maybe write them a letter and just ask if they are banning any of those things you listed?
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