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Posted: 1/13/2023 2:01:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: evnash]
cmmg
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:02:36 PM EST
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So, what does this mean?


Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:05:49 PM EST
[#2]
Comply or die
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:05:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
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The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:06:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
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ATF should be disbanded
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:06:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
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Probably that form 4s will take even longer.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:07:34 PM EST
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It means…. LOL

Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:07:39 PM EST
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Wow. It does have the "free stamp"
Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:08:24 PM EST
[#8]
ATF
FBI
CIA
GFY
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:08:25 PM EST
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LOL. I just got an SBA4 coming today for my new Tac 14. Guess that means it will be a SBS?
But the hood rats are free to roam the streets with their wish glock switches yo.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:08:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By evnash:


The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces
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Originally Posted By evnash:
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
So, what does this mean?




The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces

might as well just put a stock on it at this point.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:09:01 PM EST
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We got 120 days to register. However, there is an interesting area that they created. Providing you use the brace as is and not shouldering. It is off of the website.

So, does this mean I just need to use the brace as required without registering as a NFA item.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:09:10 PM EST
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So millions of new applications. The AFT should have those sorted out by rapture.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:09:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
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That the ATF can lick my unwiped asshole.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:10:06 PM EST
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What if the braces are for my registered SBR and MG?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:10:55 PM EST
[#16]
Wow, they actually are that stupid.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:10:58 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:11:05 PM EST
[#18]
Fuck em. Take the brace off and put on a bumpstock instead
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:11:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR18:
We got 120 days to register. However, there is an interesting area that they created. Providing you use the brace as is and not shouldering. It is off of the website.

So, does this mean I just need to use the brace as required without registering as a NFA item.
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Using an item for something different than its main intended purpose doesn’t magically turn it into something else.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:11:58 PM EST
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does that mean it makes it a SBR? if so can i attach a stock and throw the brace away...
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:12:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By evnash:


The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces
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Originally Posted By evnash:
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
So, what does this mean?




The AG has signed it, giving the atf the go ahead to publish which sets the dates. 120 days from publish date to give up your braces


The ATF can suck my short, white dick.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:12:09 PM EST
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Range toys.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:12:11 PM EST
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FATF
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:12:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BelinTX:

Using an item for something different than its main intended purpose doesn’t magically turn it into something else.
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You must now be 18 to buy cucumbers and bananas
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:12:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
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Absolutely nothing ... to me.

I'll continue to use my legally purchased braces, and factory braced pistols.  The feds can FOAD for all I care.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:13:14 PM EST
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So I should find something better than my PSA upper to throw my pistol brace on and get a free SBR, then swap it out for a buttstock?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:13:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wakeboarder:


You must now be 18 to buy cucumbers and bananas
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Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:13:45 PM EST
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They did not adopt the Worksheet 4999.  

Instead, anything that provides a surface that can be shouldered is a stock.  

Form 1 is free to make your braced gun a SBR.


I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I see.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:14:31 PM EST
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If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:15:00 PM EST
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So, can lawsuits start once it's published in the federal register?  Or not until after the 120 days?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:16:03 PM EST
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Does this have to be registered?
(Removed, CoC-2~ guns762)

Edit: asking for a friend of course.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:16:24 PM EST
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I'll get right on that, chief.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:16:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sixgunner45:


Absolutely nothing ... to me.

I'll continue to use my legally purchased braces, and factory braced pistols.  The feds can FOAD for all I care.
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Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:17:32 PM EST
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So the 120 day thing...

does that mean they aren't enforcing the rule for 120 days or just that someone has 120 days to comply in some fashion?

On day 90, someone has a braced pistol and is pulled over... 30 days to comply still or charged with possession of an SBR?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:18:29 PM EST
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Oh, look, you can't register to your trust unless it was on your schedule before today.

This evidence will generally include the signed, dated, and notarized terms of the trust or trust schedules that list or provide a description of the  property held in trust.
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Who notarized their schedule?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:19:06 PM EST
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Can I return my new AKV for a full refund?

As if anyone really thought the ATF "comment period" would make one damn bit of difference. The fix was in from the beginning. Then announced the Friday of a 3-day weekend.

Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:19:18 PM EST
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Say hello to 3-4 year backlog of Form 1's if its true they are going to let people file them for free
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:19:29 PM EST
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Is this an amnesty? Because there is nothing in the law that allows an amnesty over 30 days or an amnesty for just 1 item
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:19:57 PM EST
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Article I, Section 9, Clause 3:

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Was legal when I bought it.  They can fuck off back to Washington DC
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:20:00 PM EST
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If bumpstock ban got struck down this will too.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:20:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock


If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct?

The upper is what gets registered, not the stock?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:20:31 PM EST
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I'm not complying.  They said it was okay for ten years, just like bumpstocks.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:20:39 PM EST
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$200 is waived once registering such platform as a SBR...from 120-days of the official ruling after the registrar is in...
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:20:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By xdoctor:
They did not adopt the Worksheet 4999.  

Instead, anything that provides a surface that can be shouldered is a stock.  

Form 1 is free to make your braced gun a SBR.


I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I see.
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No more points system?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:21:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock


Adding a new category to the NFA would have to be done by Congress so they'll have to be registered as SBR's, I don't see how they can prevent you from installing a real stock once you get the stamp
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:22:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Towely:


If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct?

The upper is what gets registered, not the stock?
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock


If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct?

The upper is what gets registered, not the stock?
What about buying one for a registered MG?
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:22:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By YukonCharlie:
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I won't be complying so...
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:22:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Towely:


If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct?

The upper is what gets registered, not the stock?
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:


If you have to jump through all the other hoops, anyway, just pay the $200 and use a real stock


If it's registered as an SBR then you should be able to use whatever stock you want on it, correct?

The upper is what gets registered, not the stock?


How would they know who gets a free stamp for their brace and who's registering a normal SBR?
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