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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:48:31 PM EDT
I know it's a crappy picture, but can anyone tell what rifle Patty Hearst is holding in this classic pose in front of the SLA flag?

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M1 Enforcer
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 5:50:01 PM EDT
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I think it's a chopped down M1.

Among the charges they were wanted for were NFA violations.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 5:51:00 PM EDT
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Universal M1 carbine “enforcer” perhaps?
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 5:54:39 PM EDT
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Wow I had never heard of her

Wikipedia just blew my skirt up

Full presidential pardon too
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Really?
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Really?  Not being a dick but how old?

Eta:  jeez meant in re to Chase
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Not once

Nor of SLA
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 5:57:15 PM EDT
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This has been hashed out years ago on GD. Some degree of uncertainty remains as to what exactly she was carrying.

In the 90s she was pretty hot.
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Daughter of the guy who invented the funeral car. Everyone knows that...
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It’s not the one she’s holding there, but a wise man once said that Patty Hearst heard the burst of Roland’s Thompson gun and bought it.
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Hearst media = Facebook billionaires of their time.  

Bill Clinton probably made a lot of money from that pardon.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 6:00:34 PM EDT
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I think it's a chopped down M1.

Among the charges they were wanted for were NFA violations.
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I think it's a chopped down M1.

Among the charges they were wanted for were NFA violations.


General Field Marshal Cinque said Fuck the NFA

LOL!

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Wikipedia just blew my skirt up

Full presidential pardon too


Yeah, Her family had a little bit of political influence, since her Grandfather William Randolph Hearst Sr. Founded Hearst communications & started the Spanish American War, Orson Wells based Citizen Kane on his life.
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True story
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Warren Zevon - Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner(African Bush Wars Video).mpg
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Gun from HEAT

8654
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General Field Marshal Cinque said Fuck the NFA

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Yeah, Her family had a little bit of political influence, since her Grandfather William Randolph Hearst Sr. Founded Hearst communications & started the Spanish American War, Orson Wells based Citizen Kane on his life.
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I think it's a chopped down M1.

Among the charges they were wanted for were NFA violations.


General Field Marshal Cinque said Fuck the NFA

LOL!

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Wow I had never heard of her

Wikipedia just blew my skirt up

Full presidential pardon too


Yeah, Her family had a little bit of political influence, since her Grandfather William Randolph Hearst Sr. Founded Hearst communications & started the Spanish American War, Orson Wells based Citizen Kane on his life.


That’s not all he fucked!
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Daughter of the guy who invented the funeral car. Everyone knows that...

Granddaughter of the guy that invented yellow journalism and MSM manipulation.
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She said they locked her in a dark closet for weeks & raped her often, terrible situation.
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OK, so it's probably the same gun she's carrying in this bank surveillance photo, with a scope.
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I would also guess an M-1 Carbine "Enforcer". Looks like they had several.

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I know it's a crappy picture, but can anyone tell what rifle Patty Hearst is holding in this classic pose in front of the SLA flag?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/221498/Patricia-Hearst-front-emblem-Symbionese--1584715.JPG
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Unrelated question: What is their stupid flag supposed to be?
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I know it's a crappy picture, but can anyone tell what rifle Patty Hearst is holding in this classic pose in front of the SLA flag?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/221498/Patricia-Hearst-front-emblem-Symbionese--1584715.JPG


Unrelated question: What is their stupid flag supposed to be?


According to Wiki...

Seven-headed cobra
DeFreeze was the SLA's only black member. His seven-headed SLA hydra-like cobra symbol was based on the seven principles of Kwanzaa, each head representing a principle. The Swahili words for these seven principles are: Umoja (unity), Kujichagulia (self-determination), Ujima (collective work and responsibility), Ujamaa (cooperative economics), Nia (purpose), Kuumba (creativity) and Imani (faith). The appearance of the symbol of the seven-headed cobra[3] on SLA publications indicates that it was copied from the ancient Indian and Sri Lankan seven-headed naga; carved stones depicting a seven-headed cobra are commonly found near the sluices of the ancient irrigation tanks in Sri Lanka and are believed to have been placed there as guardians of the water.[4] The particular graphic of the seven-headed cobra used by the SLA may have been copied from an illustration in The Lost Continent of Mu by James Churchward.
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SLA - Symbionese Liberation Army

Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:00:11 PM EDT
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She's a criminal.
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Fake News of the time. William Randolph Hearst was a notorious yellow journalism purveyor.

Welles did Citizen Kane based on Hearst.
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Anybody know what the optic in the first photo is?
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:01:11 PM EDT
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I never bought the entire Stockholm Syndrome crap.
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Kwanzaa flag.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:03:04 PM EDT
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I can't embed....
1975 shootout with LAPD and the SLA, sort of one-sided.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhyDRbdVlS0
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D don't you even Warren Zevon bro? I post a video but I'm on my phone.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:08:45 PM EDT
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This is a decent Robert Redford movie (from 2012) concerning the Weather Underground during the same 1960's era as the SLA bullshit.

The Company You Keep

Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:12:06 PM EDT
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Right before she heard the burst?

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No, she was a rich woke girl before rich woke girls were cool.

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Is it an optic?  It is offset and that looks like a pretty big objective for that era.  Looks more like a 1980s style Maglight setup on an MP5.
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Hearst media = Facebook billionaires of their time.  

Bill Clinton probably made a lot of money from that pardon.  


Fake News of the time. William Randolph Hearst was a notorious yellow journalism purveyor.

Welles did Citizen Kane based on Hearst.


Hearst was the original founder of yellow journalism. He ruined people's lives just because they said something he didn't like.


Rosebud - it wasn't a sled
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 7:17:35 PM EDT
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Well she was kidnapped and raped, so I would say she has a pretty good excuse for buying into their crazy ideas.  Could have been as simple as appeasing them so the rapes stopped.  

Anyhow, she was just some rich college kid who happened to become a target.  It isn’t like she was some crazed revolutionary prior to the kidnapping.


Anyhow, all that is left to say is that I hope it hurt when the SLA got burned up in the fire fight with LAPD.  They deserved it, and decided to go out that way, so the hell with them.
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Only one person in that picture has any trigger discipline.

How did they not ND each other?
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The SLA used M1 carbines modified into full auto with parts available at gun shows in those days.

They thought it was funny that they were buying all their guns from right wingers.
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Hail Hydra.
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Is it an optic?  It is offset and that looks like a pretty big objective for that era.  Looks more like a 1980s style Maglight setup on an MP5.
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Big ol D Cell Flashlight?

That sort of makes sense.
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Same. Think I’ve seen their emblem before but have no knowledge of them.
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Flashlight, not an optic. Probably a Kel-Lite or a Brinkmann, they preceded Maglite.
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"Doyle says probly should send a bambulance or a hearst."
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It's not uncommon. I find a lot of Americans under the age of 40 know very little about the 60's and 70's radicals.
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I tend to think that putting her in such a situation where she was dependent on them and abused for an extended period could account for her behavior.

I was a kid in the 70s, and remember pretty much hating her, but I no longer feel that way.
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It's not uncommon. I find a lot of Americans under the age of 40 know very little about the 60's and 70's radicals.
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It's not uncommon. I find a lot of Americans under the age of 40 know very little about the 60's and 70's radicals.


Ya thats why I curious about his age.
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Well she was kidnapped and raped, so I would say she has a pretty good excuse for buying into their crazy ideas.  Could have been as simple as appeasing them so the rapes stopped.  

Anyhow, she was just some rich college kid who happened to become a target.  It isn’t like she was some crazed revolutionary prior to the kidnapping.


Anyhow, all that is left to say is that I hope it hurt when the SLA got burned up in the fire fight with LAPD.  They deserved it, and decided to go out that way, so the hell with them.
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A bit different, but children adopted by native Americans after being taken captive often integrated into native American life even though they saw the horrific fate of their white family. And maintain fondness for the native Americans even though they remember the rape, torture and murder of parents and siblings.

I actually think there are aspects of human behavior that suggest adaptation to other tribes when taken captive, at least among the young/females.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 8:03:09 PM EDT
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This forum really does have some whipper snappers on board.
Link Posted: 9/9/2020 8:03:43 PM EDT
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I've always thought the M1 carbine in this picture was indeed scoped.

There was quite a market post WWII for items to 'Bubba' the M1 carbine into a more woods-friendly rifle. I've seen checkered Monte Carlo stocks and other 'conversions,' some mildly-humorous, some gag-inducing.

Mounting flashlights on rifles was far less common in the era and I would be surprised if that's what it was.
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