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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:31:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrickWurX: Technically each will be limited from my understanding. SPACEFORCE-15 SPACEWALKER-15 SPACERIDER-15 SPACEROVER-15 Would love to see PSA approve an AR10 Space Force lower. Especially now since Magpul just released the D50 308 drum! SPACECANNON-10 SPACEFORCE-15 needs a big brother! https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/45831178915_e94b1665d2_b.jpg 
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:57:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOLAGT: LOL that is what I was thinking. I decided to do some big bore builds and gave thought to a SNEK lower for a 450 Bushmaster or a Bushmaster lower. I waited too long and missed the countless postings of the SNEK. Still not sure...but if I had one that had 450 as the SN it would be a done deal
With that said if anyone comes across this post and wants to figure something out shoot me a PM...I have bourbon  
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:30:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shootindave]
[#3]
Really hoping this whole email thing is gunna work out on the clone lower. I did get the formatted email to him before the deadline. I work nights..... so I hope it doesn't drop at 9am right after I go to bed and wake up to it sold out! I ended up ordering a lower from Brownells today after seeing everything from PSA was sold out...... but I will find a home for the PSA clone lower.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:41:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: One of my SF-15’s will be my first SBR. 300BO with 10.5 barrel and a can. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:00:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pearljammer8:
I had the same idea for my first Space Force SBR Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pearljammer8:
Originally Posted By chargerdude70: One of my SF-15’s will be my first SBR. 300BO with 10.5 barrel and a can. 
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:03:43 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pearljammer8:
I had the same idea for my first Space Force SBR Was also wondering if anyone has had experience with the Strike Ind. ViPer PDW stock? Really like the looks of it but would be interested in people’s real world use thoughts. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHaven’t submitted mine yet. Just finished setting up trust.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:10:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: Haven’t submitted mine yet. Just finished setting up trust. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:11:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pearljammer8:
How did you set up your trust, local attorney or online? |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:25:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Just got off of horn with SilencerShop. They are not submitting anything ATM. They need a software update and can’t complete it until Gov get back on line. Should not have dragged my feet
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:25:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: Through silencer shop. Then went to local kiosk to do prints and profile. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:28:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
For a form 1? |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:32:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: See above. No forms being submitted or NFA stamps. Have to wait until the wall battle is settled. Day after that is going to be one busy MoFo. Not sure how the trust stuff works, but I will say on the few times I've done any ATF forms and stuff, just sending the stuff in myself vs silencer shop as been much easier. Especially with the efile form 1. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:32:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: XeonEvolved]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: See above. No forms being submitted or NFA stamps. Have to wait until the wall battle is settled. Day after that is going to be one busy MoFo. eta: I don't know what SS is doing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:33:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
I mean, are you filing a form 1? I assumed so since we're talking lowers. Not sure how the trust stuff works, but I will say on the few times I've done any ATF forms and stuff, just sending the stuff in myself vs silencer shop as been much easier. Especially with the efile form 1. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:35:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XeonEvolved:
They are not processing F1 or F4s but they are receiving them. No point to wait. eta: I don't know what SS is doing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:35:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XeonEvolved:
They are not processing F1 or F4s but they are receiving them. No point to wait. eta: I don't know what SS is doing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:46:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
I finally completed my gremlin build. It even worked.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/251964/Resized_20190115_113538_jpeg-808867.JPG |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 2:00:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thor]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Hoping Franklin trigger goes on sale for the beast as well. Would be a fun ride Was also wondering if anyone has had experience with the Strike Ind. ViPer PDW stock? Really like the looks of it but would be interested in people’s real world use thoughts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Originally Posted By Pearljammer8:
I had the same idea for my first Space Force SBR Was also wondering if anyone has had experience with the Strike Ind. ViPer PDW stock? Really like the looks of it but would be interested in people’s real world use thoughts. 
Strike brace is very compact. it appears to be the shortest collapsed config you can get without using a proprietary BCG. Cycles smooth and I've had no failures of any sort running it. I really like the push button deployment. When extended LOP is also compact, perhaps too compact for a normal manual of arms. I have punched myself in the nose enough times with FTF drills that I decided to swap my upper for a side charger.
Be aware that the Franklin Trigger does not run 100% with these short buffer systems. I'd get hammer follow with the Strike and the Maxim systems and have to cycle the action. You really need a heavier spring. Maxim is the only one that offers one at the moment. A Fostech trigger would be a better option. If your finger outruns the carrier it won't drop the hammer and you can just pull the trigger again.  Attached FileEdit: This shows the stock extended, but with my old upper. Better looking, but running the charging handle with a cheekweld was tight...  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 2:15:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chargerdude70]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thor: Space force was my first SBR as well and I think the first of all the SF lowers to be SBR'd.
Strike brace is very compact. it appears to be the shortest collapsed cong you can get without using a proprietary BCG. Cycles smooth and I've had no failures of any sort running it. I really like the push button deployment. When extended LOP is also compact, perhaps too compact for a normal manual of arms. I have punched myself in the nose enough times with FTF drills that I decided to swap my upper for a side charger.
Be aware that the Franklin Trigger does not run 100% with these short buffer systems. I'd get hammer follow with the Strike and the Maxim systems and have to cycle the action. You really need a heavier spring. Maxim is the only one that offers one at the moment. A Fostech trigger would be a better option. If your finger outruns the carrier it won't drop the hammer and you can just pull the trigger again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/IMG_20190114_211630_jpg-808875.JPG Edit: This shows the stock extended, but with my old upper. Better looking, but running the charging handle with a cheekweld was tight... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/g4cprfh_jpg-808878.JPG 
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Posted: 1/15/2019 3:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: Mine should have been for as soon as I pulled the trigger when we got the go.  Ordered at November 27, 2018 3:59:56 PM EST Got 1497 & 1498... Mine got stuck in "processing". I didn't want to be "that guy" so waited almost a month before I asked them to check on the order. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 3:34:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
NOICE..and it even worked? Well that's a plus...lol... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Originally Posted By BIgDAM:
I finally completed my gremlin build. It even worked.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/251964/Resized_20190115_113538_jpeg-808867.JPG I wasn't 100% sure it would cycle without tinkering.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 5:07:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GamecockOperator:
if memory serves, it takes about 12.00 for a lower to be produced stripped but finished. The cost of a product includes not only the cost to obtain the raw materials and run them through the machine, but the cost to maintain the inventory, maintain the equipment, pay the staff (not just the machine operator - everyone's salary is related to every single product), and (very important here) document each finished Title I item. $49 each comes out pretty much as the bleeding edge of sustainable pricing for a quality, in-spec forged lower. One reason for the "pre-order" thing is to establish that each specific design will be in sufficient demand to create the CNC program for it. Sure, lettering isn't much of a big deal to program, and sure there are probably many, many tools to convert line art to CNC engraving instructions, but with limited numbers of each design (and for ALL of these designs!), it can add up. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 7:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
That may be accurate, but it's a misleading number. The cost of a product includes not only the cost to obtain the raw materials and run them through the machine, but the cost to maintain the inventory, maintain the equipment, pay the staff (not just the machine operator - everyone's salary is related to every single product), and (very important here) document each finished Title I item. $49 each comes out pretty much as the bleeding edge of sustainable pricing for a quality, in-spec forged lower. One reason for the "pre-order" thing is to establish that each specific design will be in sufficient demand to create the CNC program for it. Sure, lettering isn't much of a big deal to program, and sure there are probably many, many tools to convert line art to CNC engraving instructions, but with limited numbers of each design (and for ALL of these designs!), it can add up. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:23:45 PM EDT
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Finished my Snek build decided to keep it simple and light. Fost time using fixed sights. It's weird, bit works, haha. All I'll do in the future is mount a light.
Gremlin is being rebuild...again. This time as 12" Grendel pistol. Space Force keeps changing. Who knows what I'll do next.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:48:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrickWurX: Technically each will be limited from my understanding. SPACEFORCE-15 SPACEWALKER-15 SPACERIDER-15 SPACEROVER-15 Would love to see PSA approve an AR10 Space Force lower. Especially now since Magpul just released the D50 308 drum! SPACECANNON-10 SPACEFORCE-15 needs a big brother! https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/45831178915_e94b1665d2_b.jpg |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:04:56 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrickWurX: Technically each will be limited from my understanding. SPACEFORCE-15 SPACEWALKER-15 SPACERIDER-15 SPACEROVER-15 Would love to see PSA approve an AR10 Space Force lower. Especially now since Magpul just released the D50 308 drum! SPACECANNON-10 SPACEFORCE-15 needs a big brother! https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/45831178915_e94b1665d2_b.jpg This may make me build a big bore AR10, 45 Raptor, 358 Winchester, 500automax? |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:07:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
New to this so was looking for least headache way of approching this. If there is a better way. Love to hear it but maybe go private to not clutter Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Originally Posted By XeonEvolved:
They are not processing F1 or F4s but they are receiving them. No point to wait. eta: I don't know what SS is doing. was going to do the form 1 for my PS90. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:21:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jupiter7:
@PamettoStateArmory yes please This may make me build a big bore AR10, 45 Raptor, 358 Winchester, 500automax? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jupiter7:
Originally Posted By BrickWurX: Technically each will be limited from my understanding. SPACEFORCE-15 SPACEWALKER-15 SPACERIDER-15 SPACEROVER-15 Would love to see PSA approve an AR10 Space Force lower. Especially now since Magpul just released the D50 308 drum! SPACECANNON-10 SPACEFORCE-15 needs a big brother! https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4918/45831178915_e94b1665d2_b.jpg This may make me build a big bore AR10, 45 Raptor, 358 Winchester, 500automax? SPACEFORCE-10 SPACEWALKER-10 SPACERIDER-10 SPACEROVER-10 AND THEN: SPACECANNON-10!!!! |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:46:45 AM EDT
[#31]
I think on the Space Cannon the Barrage and Light em up should be switched if there is enough room.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 5:44:32 AM EDT
[#32]
Mini Snek now in work.
Waiting on 4.75 KAK barrel and micro gas tube. All other parts are ready and obtained.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:30:47 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Getnlwr:
Mini Snek now in work. Waiting on 4.75 KAK barrel and micro gas tube. All other parts are ready and obtained. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77421/20190116_014008_jpg-809572.JPG |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 8:40:41 AM EDT
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So the threads do not grab the taticalicool beard!
LOL Red prob so there are no threads showing... |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:47:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ActAppalled: Okay, I'll bite. Why two castle nuts? 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles:
Second one acts as a jam nut so no staking is required? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles:
Originally Posted By ActAppalled: Okay, I'll bite. Why two castle nuts? |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:53:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jagrmaister: By using two, he has relieved himself of this spare part that potentially could get wet and develop into another rifle. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:00:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
This is the most logical explanation yet. I have this spare disconnector spring. What the hell am I going to do with it. I know, I’ll build another vermin extinguisher. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Originally Posted By Jagrmaister: By using two, he has relieved himself of this spare part that potentially could get wet and develop into another rifle.
Edit: I have found if you mix random parts together so you don't really know what you have, it keeps the parts from feeling lonely and the "POOFS" down. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: It's amazing how that happens. One day minding my own business, a lonely rear MBUIS went "POOF", along with my bank account, and turned into a rifle. True story.
Edit: I have found if you mix random parts together so you don't really know what you have, it keeps the parts from feeling lonely and the "POOFS" down. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:22:43 PM EDT
[#40]
I bought an AK mag before, hoping it would grow into something... maybe I need to add more water.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:33:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
I bought an AK mag before, hoping it would grow into something... maybe I need to add more water. Ammo acts as fertilizer and stimulates growth. Depending on the sensitivity level I have found somewhere around 250 - 1K of rounds really gets it going.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: A spare trigger guard turned into this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20181224_191246-784205.jpg 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:49:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Doodles]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: A spare trigger guard turned into this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20181224_191246-784205.jpg All I want is have a couple of spares for change outs. It that too much to ask for? 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:51:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doodles: My biggest "POOF" part is barrels. Every time I buy a spare barrel, "POOF" new rifle. Those things are like rabbits. All I want is have a couple of spares for change outs. It that too much to ask for?
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Posted: 1/16/2019 2:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ActAppalled: Okay, I'll bite. Why two castle nuts? This tube does not have that. The magpul plate doesn't have a center pin either to go into the keyway either so they will fit together. However the combination of part with an end cap that you unthread to disassemble can sometimes come loose on this buffer tube style. Doubling the case nut works as an easy backup jamnut. Looks weird but works and is still easy to disassemble later on if I need to. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:09:11 PM EDT
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Can someone here answer NFA question. Spoke to local municipality for finger prints and he said he has had some rejected because the cards didn’t have some stamp on them that you would normally get if cards were gotten from the Gov themselves. Can anyone expand on this?
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:31:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wissota4]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Can someone here answer NFA question. Spoke to local municipality for finger prints and he said he has had some rejected because the cards didn’t have some stamp on them that you would normally get if cards were gotten from the Gov themselves. Can anyone expand on this? ETA sending print cards out might not be essential enough right now tho lol. Amazon has them too but you pay thru them. Sorry, not super helpful. ETA 2 https://www.amazon.com/Fingerprint-Cards-Form-FD-258-pack/dp/B00X14Q6E6 |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:42:20 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
You have to use the cards the ATF uses. I forget the nomenclature off hand. You can order them for free. My sheriffs office has them in stock too. ETA sending print cards out might not be essential enough right now tho lol. Amazon has them too but you pay thru them. Sorry, not super helpful. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:51:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70: The FD-258 but they can be had all over. But I don’t see this “stamp” that he was mentioning on ones for sale online. I imagine with gov shut down, can’t get anything as well. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:54:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: giantpune]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chargerdude70:
Can someone here answer NFA question. Spoke to local municipality for finger prints and he said he has had some rejected because the cards didn’t have some stamp on them that you would normally get if cards were gotten from the Gov themselves. Can anyone expand on this? |
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