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Posted: 7/27/2023 9:53:27 PM EDT
Must have been his jacket, or maybe his finger on the trigger. IDK.
Montville police officer’s handgun went off inside the Montville Police Department
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:55:44 PM EDT
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LOL. Amazing
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:56:39 PM EDT
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I know this site has its share of "Sig can do no wrong" fanboys, but after watching multiple Sig drop tests with empty-but-primed brass, and watching it go bang, I won't go near one of those ever.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:57:53 PM EDT
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“It’s a feature” - GD Sig apologist
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:59:14 PM EDT
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Hard to tell on my phone. Was it the cop who was bending over to grab the kids legs?

I just asked for video evidence in the last thread. Thanks
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 9:59:47 PM EDT
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Handcuff keys.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:00:27 PM EDT
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Here we go!
In on 1!
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:00:37 PM EDT
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Why did it wait until he bent down and then stood up to fire? It just waited until that exact moment instead of firing for the previous hours while the guy was just standing?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:00:56 PM EDT
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Hard to tell on my phone. Was it the cop who was bending over to grab the kids legs?

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Yes. The holster was pushed up against the other cop as he did, then the gun fired.

I'll also note that the gun fires when he starts to stand back up.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:01:11 PM EDT
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There is something going on with these SIGs
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:01:59 PM EDT
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Excellent recording of both video & audible happenings...
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:02:15 PM EDT
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Movement, holster flex, inertia
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:02:40 PM EDT
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That’s what it looked like to me.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:02:53 PM EDT
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Sure appears so. Other guy jumps back like he was contacted by shrapnel.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:03:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:04:02 PM EDT
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Is bending over a warning in the manual?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:04:13 PM EDT
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Yes, cop with the tucked in shirt and not wearing a jacket and does not have his hand on this gun, leans over to conduct a patdown and gun goes off.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:04:19 PM EDT
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Exactly.  Glad we finally have video proof of a holstered gun going off.  

Sig had an amazing opportunity to be the best striker fired pistol on the planet, they fucked that up royally.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:04:33 PM EDT
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Ron Cohen did this
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:04:51 PM EDT
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interesting.

Where is the rest of the video? Why cut it off there?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:06:07 PM EDT
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Do not jostle angry fun Sig. Do not taunt angry fun Sig.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:06:27 PM EDT
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interesting.

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Because it shows the whole incident.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:06:30 PM EDT
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Can anyone confirm that the holster was a Safariland? Kinda looks like it
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:06:49 PM EDT
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Handcuff keys.
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That’s my guess too. Guns don’t just go off by themselves.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:07:24 PM EDT
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That’s my guess too. Guns don’t just go off by themselves.
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Handcuff keys.


That’s my guess too. Guns don’t just go off by themselves.

Sig P320s do
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:07:39 PM EDT
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Can’t confirm in the video, but chances are strong that it’s a safariland.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:08:26 PM EDT
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Man, I sure am glad I got that 19x instead of a sig!

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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:08:57 PM EDT
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Kinda looked like he brushed the gun up against the other officer's belt area.  What holster was it?  Some of the Safariland light bearing holsters have too much of the trigger guard area exposed on the P320 IMO.  It's bad enough that guys say they can easily reach in with their finger and pull the trigger while the gun is holstered.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:09:00 PM EDT
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Holsters / belts with all kinds of shit on them / cops (it’s always a cop).
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:09:17 PM EDT
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We had one of these within the past day. The Sig can do wrong crew were absolutely certain this was not occurring. It has now occurred on video. Is it that far of a stretch to believe that this can happen?

I could drop my 320 onto my carpet from 6-8" off of the ground and the striker would fire. Is it not perceivable to some that the same part(s) that allow this "feature" to occur, after rounds have been through the gun, that they wear down further to the point where they fail with a sudden/jerky movement?

And also, this could not have come at a more appropriate time, with Sig being sued by several people throughout the cuntry.  "Ladies and gentleman of the jury, Sig 320's are known to shoot when not being handled.  My clients have been harmed by this 'feature,' watch this video. I rest my case."  LMAO!!
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:09:21 PM EDT
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I keep an open mind. But unless there is a better view of something else happening that is no bueno.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:10:09 PM EDT
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interesting.

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the gun exploded, killed everybody and destroyed the camera

or it just fired that one time and the video got all of it.  Shot going off doesn't take all day.

video evidence seems damning on the surface
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:10:22 PM EDT
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Looks like the 6360
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:10:29 PM EDT
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Holsters / belts with all kinds of shit on them / cops (it’s always a cop).
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Clearly it was his baggy jacket that was inside the holster.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:10:37 PM EDT
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Ok, I've defended Sig before, but that one is pretty damning.  Probably one of the clearer videos we've seen and the gun is clearly holstered.

SIG SUPERIORITY.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:10:44 PM EDT
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Pass that copium sig fanbois
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:11:09 PM EDT
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That's my guess too. Guns don't just go off by themselves.
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Please explain how a handcuff key caused this? Most cops use a pen cuff key and keep them in their shirt pocket. Even if they used a key ring cuff key, how did this happen? Duty holsters keep the entire pistol covered. The key and subsequent key ring would be kinda hard to get inside of the holster also.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:11:20 PM EDT
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??
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:12:22 PM EDT
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In.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:13:29 PM EDT
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officer behind him lucky to have not taken shrapnel / richocet.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:13:55 PM EDT
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Moment the gun went off and 1/2 a second later when the officer was standing with his arms completely wrapped around the kids legs.  No possible way he touched the gun or holster.





Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:14:45 PM EDT
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Kinda looked like he brushed the gun up against the other officer's belt area.  What holster was it?  Some of the Safariland light bearing holsters have too much of the trigger guard area exposed on the P320 IMO.  It's bad enough that guys say they can easily reach in with their finger and pull the trigger while the gun is holstered.
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So what you’re saying is Sig should have engineered the trigger with a guard like glock.  Yep I agree.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:14:45 PM EDT
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That’s my guess too. Guns don’t just go off by themselves.
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Sig and Taurus both disagree.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:14:58 PM EDT
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Man, I sure am glad I got that 19x instead of a sig!

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You order your G19X from Wish?
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:15:36 PM EDT
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So what you’re saying is Sig should have engineered the trigger with a guard like glock.  Yep I agree.
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Kinda looked like he brushed the gun up against the other officer's belt area.  What holster was it?  Some of the Safariland light bearing holsters have too much of the trigger guard area exposed on the P320 IMO.  It's bad enough that guys say they can easily reach in with their finger and pull the trigger while the gun is holstered.



So what you’re saying is Sig should have engineered the trigger with a guard like glock.  Yep I agree.


And a trigger dingus
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:16:59 PM EDT
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Wife is shopping for a new pistol something more serious than her shield ez that we can put a dot on and find holsters for...

Sent her to scheels yesterday to check some out to see what she likes and she sends me a photo of the one she liked...

P320 xcarry legion...

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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:17:14 PM EDT
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Pass that copium sig fanbois
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Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:17:47 PM EDT
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Yet sig has yet to settle outside court and every case that has gone ti court has been decided in favor for Sig.

I clearly remember lots of cases of Glock getting sued, but people seem to forget this..
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:18:20 PM EDT
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Moment the gun went off and 1/2 a second later when the officer was standing with his arms completely wrapped around the kids legs.  No possible way he touched the gun or holster.

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Thanks for the screenshots. That's definitely a Safariland
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:18:28 PM EDT
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Moment the gun went off and 1/2 a second later when the officer was standing with his arms completely wrapped around the kids legs.  No possible way he touched the gun or holster.

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Put the YT video 3 frames past when it turns 0:07 is another good view (body cam of lucky cop behind the gun).
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 10:18:35 PM EDT
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Don't 320s keep the striker partially cocked unlike every other striker design? Why is so hard to believe that jarring it hard enough could let the striker loose with enough velocity to ignite the primer.
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