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Quoted: I agree he is not a commie, just a fool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I completely understand what you are saying, and have to say "So what?". The why of it all is of very little consequence if he is pointing a weapon at people for using the roadways. BLM/ANTIFA doesn't care about his ideology, they just wanted someone, anyone, to die a glorious death for progress. He obliged them. It matters to me, because the description of "commie" is simply not accurate. Note that I am NOT saying anything about whether he deserved to die. That's a completely separate issue. I agree he is not a commie, just a fool. Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. |
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Quoted: I thought that UBER was anti gun and prohibited drivers from carrying "Uber prohibits riders and their guests, as well as driver and delivery partners, from carrying firearms of any kind while using the app, to the extent permitted by applicable law. ... That means your firearm must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container in the trunk of the vehicle."(per their website) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Opening part of the show said the car was an Uber driver with prior military. Didn't catch if he had a passenger or not. I thought that UBER was anti gun and prohibited drivers from carrying "Uber prohibits riders and their guests, as well as driver and delivery partners, from carrying firearms of any kind while using the app, to the extent permitted by applicable law. ... That means your firearm must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container in the trunk of the vehicle."(per their website) He was conducting a Freedom of Navigation exercise. Just like we do in the South China Sea. |
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Is anyone in Texas that can stop by and drop off a teddy bear to Police Chief Manly... in his press-release he says ‘we are heartbroken over the loss of mr foster’
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Quoted: Being NPQ for asthma is not failing out. You know better. View Quote Yea and indicating a whole branch of the military because a fat ass brought an AK to a protest is a tad disingenuous... |
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Quoted: It's not failing out, but it is often a way one quits. In military training courses, there are only two reasons to see the doc: 1) You need to see the doc in order to get the treatment needed to make it through the course. 2) You are quitting. View Quote You sir obviously understand. |
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Quoted: Carrying a long gun in Texas is legal. Carrying a long gun at the low ready is considered BRANDISHING in most areas and is illegal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: One of the dangers of carrying at the low-ready when a rapidly changing situation gives somebody else a reasonable fear of imminent harm. Carrying a long gun in Texas is legal. Carrying a long gun at the low ready is considered BRANDISHING in most areas and is illegal. Doesn't matter what laws state; the rule of law is dead. Laws are now only tools for authorities to use in bringing down their political enemies. |
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Quoted: Listening to the radio yesterday early evening (we sit outside for a few hours every night and listen to AM talk radio) the FOX affiliate news report stated Foster brandished a shotgun at the driver and was shot. They don't even care about accurate reporting anymore. View Quote Fox is controlled opposition. They have been pandering to the BLM shit by saying these are peaceful protests. We know the facts. |
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Quoted: was the car stationary when the dead guy and everyone else approaches it/makes contact? View Quote That second video out there (dash cam view) shows the car pulling INTO the crowd. Now, the crowd should not have been in the street to begin with, but a car pulling into a crowd of protesters will draw a crowd. So to specifically answer your question. NO. Some protesters were already there, and the car came to them. |
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Quoted: If dead guy was black and the shooter was white, and all other things equal, would it have been the same treatment by Austin authorities and the media? I'm going to be a pessimist and say no. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Austin police spokesman has stated BLM Dead guy pointed rifle at car, the shooter has been questioned and released. I'm going to be a pessimist and say no. Don’t be such a hat......oh, Nvr mind. |
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Quoted: Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I completely understand what you are saying, and have to say "So what?". The why of it all is of very little consequence if he is pointing a weapon at people for using the roadways. BLM/ANTIFA doesn't care about his ideology, they just wanted someone, anyone, to die a glorious death for progress. He obliged them. It matters to me, because the description of "commie" is simply not accurate. Note that I am NOT saying anything about whether he deserved to die. That's a completely separate issue. I agree he is not a commie, just a fool. Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. I mentioned it in the other thread: "Commie" is quickly becoming the catch all colloquialism to describe someone that partakes in these riots without havinf to go through the Baskin Robbins of intersectionality trying to figure out what flavor of retard he happened to be; "commie" will suffice. |
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View Quote “Sheila Foster told the station her son was a former airman who bought the rifle recently to bring to the protests for safety.” Um that’s about the stupidest thing I have heard. Also the whole “my baby didn’t do nuffin” is thin. |
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Quoted: That second video out there (dash cam view) shows the car pulling INTO the crowd. Now, the crowd should not have been in the street to begin with, but a car pulling into a crowd of protesters will draw a crowd. So to specifically answer your question. NO. Some protesters were already there, and the car came to them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: was the car stationary when the dead guy and everyone else approaches it/makes contact? That second video out there (dash cam view) shows the car pulling INTO the crowd. Now, the crowd should not have been in the street to begin with, but a car pulling into a crowd of protesters will draw a crowd. So to specifically answer your question. NO. Some protesters were already there, and the car came to them. I haven’t watched the second (dash cam) video since yesterday but IIRC he turned the corner after a bunch of them had passed and found himself smack dab in the middle of a second larger group so he (understandably) honked. This caused not only those immediately around him to rush the car but also the zombies that were passed home to turn around and come back. |
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Quoted: I think he was just really sensitive to police shooting unarmed black people so often. I mean look at his girlfriend View Quote Savage. |
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Quoted: But, according to some, he didn't really know what was going on. View Quote If you go 60 days you get a free T-shirt. He was so close... |
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There is a twitter video the definitively proves AK boy pointed his rifle into the driver's side window. Is that posted in this thread yet?
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Quoted: I haven’t watched the second (dash cam) video since yesterday but IIRC he turned the corner after a bunch of them had passed and found himself smack dab in the middle of a second larger group so he (understandably) honked. This caused not only those immediately around him to rush the car but also the zombies that were passed home to turn around and come back. View Quote That is my take as well. He probably assumed the group had passed, and quickly turned (trying to beat traffic because from the car with the dash cam now has a green light)....not realizing there was a 2nd group. |
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Quoted: No. We're supposed to believe the driver managed a one-handed quintuple-tap without hitting anyone else in the crowd, and that a 'medic' nearby managed a triple-tap at the fleeing vehicle without hitting anyone, and without being arrested. Which is why I think the story will still evolve once the defense gets their hooks into the evidence. The City (and Antifa) are likely praying to their crappy government non-gods that no charges are brought on the driver, since this way they get to set the narrative unopposed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: NEEDED UPDATE: Did not see a definitive answer. Do we know now where all 8 {?} shots came from? Did Foster fire 5 shots into the car, then receive 3 back? No. We're supposed to believe the driver managed a one-handed quintuple-tap without hitting anyone else in the crowd, and that a 'medic' nearby managed a triple-tap at the fleeing vehicle without hitting anyone, and without being arrested. Which is why I think the story will still evolve once the defense gets their hooks into the evidence. The City (and Antifa) are likely praying to their crappy government non-gods that no charges are brought on the driver, since this way they get to set the narrative unopposed. @sherrick13 @barnbwt Thanks. |
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Quoted: When I said I can't blame him...I was referring to the driver thinking a gun was pointed at him. We don't know if Foster ever pointed his gun at the driver or not, but to the driver, in that situation, even "low ready" would lot a lot like "pointed at me". Regardless, what I keep seeing around here is a narrative based on people not agreeing with Foster's political stance. I'll be the first to say that none of them should have been protesting in the street to begin with. But I'm putting that aside and looking at this through the eyes of three different people. Driver - Drove into a crowd. I don't think it was on purpose, and the crowd should not have been there....but that is what happened. Crowd quickly converges on him, including a dude with an AK just a few feet from him. That is a threat. Shots ring out. Foster - Walking, when a car suddenly appears around the corner and almost hits people. Not sure how close he was, but obviously close enough to be at the driver's side within seconds. Medic - Not sure of this person's exact location....but their POV would be that a car suddenly appeared around a corner. Within seconds, the driver of the car started shooting. Keep in mind that from the protesters POV, a car suddenly coming into a crowd is a threat. Do they need to get their asses out of the street? Yes, but it isn't like protesters have not been killed from cars plowing into crowds (be it accident or on purpose). I don't agree with the protesters, but I'm trying to look at it from all the angles....not just one angle simply because I don't like the other people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yes I can blame him for pointing a rifle at a car. You can't be commiting a crime and have an affirmative defense. He was in the wrong 100% no question about it. You can't swarm a guys car and then cry foul when someone pulls a gun. He was a criminal and got put in his place. When I said I can't blame him...I was referring to the driver thinking a gun was pointed at him. We don't know if Foster ever pointed his gun at the driver or not, but to the driver, in that situation, even "low ready" would lot a lot like "pointed at me". Regardless, what I keep seeing around here is a narrative based on people not agreeing with Foster's political stance. I'll be the first to say that none of them should have been protesting in the street to begin with. But I'm putting that aside and looking at this through the eyes of three different people. Driver - Drove into a crowd. I don't think it was on purpose, and the crowd should not have been there....but that is what happened. Crowd quickly converges on him, including a dude with an AK just a few feet from him. That is a threat. Shots ring out. Foster - Walking, when a car suddenly appears around the corner and almost hits people. Not sure how close he was, but obviously close enough to be at the driver's side within seconds. Medic - Not sure of this person's exact location....but their POV would be that a car suddenly appeared around a corner. Within seconds, the driver of the car started shooting. Keep in mind that from the protesters POV, a car suddenly coming into a crowd is a threat. Do they need to get their asses out of the street? Yes, but it isn't like protesters have not been killed from cars plowing into crowds (be it accident or on purpose). I don't agree with the protesters, but I'm trying to look at it from all the angles....not just one angle simply because I don't like the other people. How about it is a bad idea to bring guns to protests to intimidate normal people doing normal things, like driving on the city streets to do business, while trying to impose your ideology on them while at the same time spreading chaos, starting fires, beating people up, taking over buildings and zones, etc... |
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Quoted: Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I completely understand what you are saying, and have to say "So what?". The why of it all is of very little consequence if he is pointing a weapon at people for using the roadways. BLM/ANTIFA doesn't care about his ideology, they just wanted someone, anyone, to die a glorious death for progress. He obliged them. It matters to me, because the description of "commie" is simply not accurate. Note that I am NOT saying anything about whether he deserved to die. That's a completely separate issue. I agree he is not a commie, just a fool. Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. His posts seem anarchist/libertarian, except he died supporting a bunch of commies. Are you what you self-identify as, or should he be defined according to his actions? Or are you suggesting he was just hanging out with his AK-47 for no real reason? So, personal beliefs aside, you lay with dogs, you wake with fleas. Do you routinely support real, actual, racists? If not, the moniker does not apply. The difference is pretty obvious. |
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Quoted: How about it is a bad idea to bring guns to protests to intimidate normal people doing normal things, like driving on the city streets to do business, while trying to impose your ideology on them while at the same time spreading chaos, starting fires, beating people up, taking over buildings and zones, etc... View Quote |
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Quoted: link left cold since it's Daily KOS https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/26/1963877/-Rest-in-Power-Garrett-Foster He was stationed at Minot around 2011-2014, not the best Crew Chief but he had heart. He was all about his wife, black chick and quadriplegic. All I can say is Holy Shit View Quote Was that the BLM thug pointing his ak47 at someone? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Surround and pound is stupid in its own regard. Literal circular firing squad Well, if you are trying to prevent a car from running over a protester, it masses all the protesters as an easy target and makes any shooting likely to hit bystanders. On the other hand, if your goal is to create a bunch of martyrs and terrorize people who were never actual threats of any kind, then it is a great strategy. |
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Quoted: How about it is a bad idea to bring guns to protests to intimidate normal people doing normal things, like driving on the city streets to do business, while trying to impose your ideology on them while at the same time spreading chaos, starting fires, beating people up, taking over buildings and zones, etc... View Quote This was actually in the comment you quoted. "I'll be the first to say that none of them should have been protesting in the street to begin with. But I'm putting that aside and looking at this through the eyes of three different people." "I don't agree with the protesters, but I'm trying to look at it from all the angles....not just one angle simply because I don't like the other people." As far as guns at protests......that can get touchy. I'm not a huge fan of it, as I think it is often done to intimate (that applies to 2A marches as well). But, one should be consistent in this manner. So if it is OK for one group, it should be OK for all groups. Of course, the burning, looting, and general crime is a different story. |
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Quoted: I mentioned it in the other thread: "Commie" is quickly becoming the catch all colloquialism to describe someone that partakes in these riots without havinf to go through the Baskin Robbins of intersectionality trying to figure out what flavor of retard he happened to be; "commie" will suffice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I completely understand what you are saying, and have to say "So what?". The why of it all is of very little consequence if he is pointing a weapon at people for using the roadways. BLM/ANTIFA doesn't care about his ideology, they just wanted someone, anyone, to die a glorious death for progress. He obliged them. It matters to me, because the description of "commie" is simply not accurate. Note that I am NOT saying anything about whether he deserved to die. That's a completely separate issue. I agree he is not a commie, just a fool. Agreed. People who keep calling him commie are fools as well. They're just like antifa peeps calling me a racist. I mentioned it in the other thread: "Commie" is quickly becoming the catch all colloquialism to describe someone that partakes in these riots without havinf to go through the Baskin Robbins of intersectionality trying to figure out what flavor of retard he happened to be; "commie" will suffice. LOL. True. I still argue that they are in fact pursuing the same crap ideology, just that anarchists are less honest with themselves that proud communists. |
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Quoted: “Sheila Foster told the station her son was a former airman who bought the rifle recently to bring to the protests for safety.” Um that’s about the stupidest thing I have heard. Also the whole “my baby didn’t do nuffin” is thin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: “Sheila Foster told the station her son was a former airman who bought the rifle recently to bring to the protests for safety.” Um that’s about the stupidest thing I have heard. Also the whole “my baby didn’t do nuffin” is thin. "Don't take your guns to riot, son, Leave your black hoodie at home." |
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View Quote They are not gonna rally round a white male ex-military guy. Noop. |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/moonchynn/status/1287438000289456129?s=20
Look at this video frame by frame. It's the definitive proof of what happened. |
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Quoted: https://mobile.twitter.com/moonchynn/status/1287438000289456129?s=20 Look at this video frame by frame. It's the definitive proof of what happened. View Quote Someone needs to pull the frames for this |
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Quoted: Well, if you are trying to prevent a car from running over a protester, it masses all the protesters as an easy target and makes any shooting likely to hit bystanders. On the other hand, if your goal is to create a bunch of martyrs and terrorize people who were never actual threats of any kind, then it is a great strategy. View Quote I saw the coffee cup scene in Ronin, I know how this works. |
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Quoted: But, according to some, he didn't really know what was going on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Don't know if this has been posted already. In the ABC13 video, his mom says he and his GF were going to protests each day for 50+ days. https://abc13.com/mother-of-man-fatally-shot-at-austin-protest-speaks-out/6335183/ But, according to some, he didn't really know what was going on. It can happen. I got caught up with this civil rights type of group for a couple months that seemed to be against government corruption. Had these weird white robe type of uniforms they made me wear to our protests. They really didn’t seem to like juice. It was always “down with the juice”. I never really got that. All of a sudden people started calling me a racist and Nazi and something about not liking my “clan”. Jokes on them though, they weren’t even my family. Just some guys I met at a flea market. I kind of got busy and moved and haven’t seen them in awhile but people didn’t really seem to like them at all and I still don’t know why. |
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Quoted: That second video out there (dash cam view) shows the car pulling INTO the crowd. Now, the crowd should not have been in the street to begin with, but a car pulling into a crowd of protesters will draw a crowd. So to specifically answer your question. NO. Some protesters were already there, and the car came to them. View Quote FFS, the driver had to be able to move at some point didn't he? The rioters are their illegally. The driver is the only person within 200 yards that is NOT ACTING in an illegal manner. Driver obviously is getting tired of trying to get through on his LEGAL PATH of travel. holy fuck, some of you come up with the dumbest shit. |
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Quoted: Unless, as we've seen, one of your comrades starts poppin' shots and own-goals a few of your Useful Idiots. I saw the coffee cup scene in Ronin, I know how this works. View Quote Eh, minor narrative problem. You’ve got dead martyrs. Who killed them is less important than who you can blame for it in the media. |
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Quoted: This was actually in the comment you quoted. "I'll be the first to say that none of them should have been protesting in the street to begin with. But I'm putting that aside and looking at this through the eyes of three different people." "I don't agree with the protesters, but I'm trying to look at it from all the angles....not just one angle simply because I don't like the other people." As far as guns at protests......that can get touchy. I'm not a huge fan of it, as I think it is often done to intimate (that applies to 2A marches as well). But, one should be consistent in this manner. So if it is OK for one group, it should be OK for all groups. Of course, the burning, looting, and general crime is a different story. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How about it is a bad idea to bring guns to protests to intimidate normal people doing normal things, like driving on the city streets to do business, while trying to impose your ideology on them while at the same time spreading chaos, starting fires, beating people up, taking over buildings and zones, etc... This was actually in the comment you quoted. "I'll be the first to say that none of them should have been protesting in the street to begin with. But I'm putting that aside and looking at this through the eyes of three different people." "I don't agree with the protesters, but I'm trying to look at it from all the angles....not just one angle simply because I don't like the other people." As far as guns at protests......that can get touchy. I'm not a huge fan of it, as I think it is often done to intimate (that applies to 2A marches as well). But, one should be consistent in this manner. So if it is OK for one group, it should be OK for all groups. Of course, the burning, looting, and general crime is a different story. He literally stated why he was there and what he thought of the opposition. There's no guesswork what the purpose is with the fires and excuses used to justify violence against others. It's political intimidation and force... |
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Quoted: Did I find an important video before the hive did? View Quote Probably. Maybe. Or not. Take a twenty out of petty cash. Hurry before someone asks for pics of your wife or calls you a doomer. Never know what side of the bed GD wakes up on. |
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Wonder how much money the Bullet Sponge and his Dependaplatapus were pulling in from this racist fascist government?
What were his plans after the glorious revolution if his new masters didn’t see a need to keep supporting their life style? |
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Quoted: Well, maybe he didn't have a passenger at the time. He was conducting a Freedom of Navigation exercise. Just like we do in the South China Sea. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Opening part of the show said the car was an Uber driver with prior military. Didn't catch if he had a passenger or not. I thought that UBER was anti gun and prohibited drivers from carrying "Uber prohibits riders and their guests, as well as driver and delivery partners, from carrying firearms of any kind while using the app, to the extent permitted by applicable law. ... That means your firearm must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container in the trunk of the vehicle."(per their website) He was conducting a Freedom of Navigation exercise. Just like we do in the South China Sea. "To the extent permitted by applicable law." If Uber is still saying that the drivers are independent contractors (they were sued over this by a couple States - I didn't follow the news to see the result), then the applicable law likely says that Uber's policy doesn't matter. Independent contractors are not bound by a company's procedures. Even if they are, that is a matter that can only lead to them having adverse employment action (i.e. they can be fired) - there is no government regulation requiring that employees follow a company policy, unless that policy is itself required to meet some legal requirement, in which case the employee is still in trouble for violating the law itself, not the policy the company put in place. Mike |
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