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Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Oh God, not again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By W_E_G: If George Soros is pumping Ukraine, should we be concerned? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/soros_jpg-2297048.JPG Oh God, not again. I wonder if he is buying Rubles or Yaun? He did make his fortune manipulating currency. |
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Originally Posted By doc540: there it is View Quote No false bravado from me, I hate what's going on there and it hurts to watch, but I don't think one drop of American blood should be spilled in Ukraine. Should Russia pose a real threat to the US, then that's a different story. At this point threats and mean words are all that's going on when it comes to us. Ukrainian's have shown they have the will and the fortitude to fight for themselves, and I do think we should give them the tools to do so. If that makes me a coward, then so be it, but I wouldn't want to send my own child into that world, and therefore couldn't expect anyone else to either. |
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Who is in Putin's inner circle? Who would have the means and opportunity to put a Makarov behind his ear and end this madness?
Senior military advisors? Wealthy Oligarch who's wealth has vanished? Any close friends of note? What happens if this played out? How dicey would it get in the immediate aftermath? How would China react? I know, probably pie in the sky wishful thinking. |
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Those vehicles had “V” painted on them, isn’t that the same identifier the Chechens were using? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Originally Posted By GreyHat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJCWtASH4 The aftermath of a fight in Bucha, which is about 10 miles outside Kyiv. Those vehicles had “V” painted on them, isn’t that the same identifier the Chechens were using? EDIT- DoesNT identify a unit. Identifies the staging area....at least from our perspectives. Sure there is a little more to that to a Russian but..Chechens didn't have their own marking. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: some British volunteers on their way https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMtwctYXoA0RTla?format=jpg&name=small View Quote Jeremy Clarkson Gets Stuck In a Window During SAS Training | The Grand Tour | Prime Video Still playing catch up. Sorry if that's a dupe. |
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Originally Posted By motown_steve: Just keep in mind, it took the US, UK, Poland, Romania, Spain and several other countries a month to capture Iraq. The Fedayeen Saddam chased the Brits out of Basra the first time. That Russia hasn't steamrolled the Ukrainians isn't necessarily good news for the Ukrainians. I'm starting to think that there is something to the idea that Putin wanted to limit civilian casualties and was hoping for a quick and clean decapitation of the Ukrainian government. I'm starting to worry that philosophy is coming to an end, and that things are going to start getting more decisive and brutal. View Quote Well, the brightside is that he is not the US, Spain, UK and Poland. He has a fraction of the resources and his army a fraction of the training. He has lost a lot of armor and weapons. |
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Must see: Compilation of TB2 drones partying like its 1991 on hapless Russian ground forces.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t3mukf/turkish_made_bayraktar_tb2s_used_by_ukraine/ |
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Originally Posted By mokerr: Not sure what you're basing this assessment on. View Quote Russia has nearly conquered the bottom and eastern halves of the country. After that, they move up the Dneiper River and split UKR into two. This gives Putin control of most of Ukraine, their natural resources and pipeline control.....which is everything he wants. |
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Originally Posted By zukguy: No false bravado from me, I hate what's going on there and it hurts to watch, but I don't think one drop of American blood should be spilled in Ukraine. Should Russia pose a real threat to the US, then that's a different story. At this point threats and mean words are all that's going on when it comes to us. Ukrainian's have shown they have the will and the fortitude to fight for themselves, and I do think we should give them the tools to do so. If that makes me a coward, then so be it, but I wouldn't want to send my own child into that world, and therefore couldn't expect anyone else to either. View Quote there "it", the truth, is. I stand by your side with the position you've taken. |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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I’m really starting to wonder what a failed Russian state might look like if this death spiral continues. There isn’t a deal he can make to get out of UKR and survive based on the blood and treasure he has lost along the way. The military has been humiliated and a lot of sons are coming home in bags. I just don’t see how Putin turns this around before the Russian economy is bled dry and people go crazy.
How many possible states like Georgia, Chechnya would run for the door given the chance? How many small minorities regions could be created out of the Russian territories if the whole house of cars folds up? What are the ramifications of 5000 nukes out of control of a strong central power? Assuming Putin doesn’t nuke the world first of course. |
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“Where we're at.
The Taliban controls Kabul. The cartels control the border. The criminals control the street. COVID Delta controls the economy. And Biden doesn't control anything..” —realwar |
The convoy, even if all of the vehicles have fuel and are functional (which I doubt all of them are) and they have a clear path ahead and a place to go (which someone had mentioned bridges were blown ahead) how long would it take that traffic jam to unwind anyway? I can't imagine how long that would take to get moving on I-35 here let alone that road they are on there. Also, always heard stories that we had satellites that could tell what book you were reading in your backyard, I would think we would have eyes on every truck in that convoy with intel and threat assessments forwarded on? Just hoping maybe there is a reason that it has not been hit yet other than they don't have the capability to.
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Originally Posted By YankeeWhite: No they didn't, or Europe would be shutting down as the oil and gas ran out. The powers in Europe left enough open to keep the energy flowing. At the rate biden is shutting things down here, with oil and gas leases, it could take up to a year to get us back to Trump's energy dominance. Why would Russia need to sell to anyone but China, it's the biggest market in the world and they both have been getting out of the dollar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By YankeeWhite: Originally Posted By planemaker: They did. When Russia got booted out of SWIFT, that cut off the petrodollar avenue. We don't need Russian oil or gas and they know we don't. The fact that our Corruption in Chief is getting his 10% vig for allowing Russian oil to be imported to the US means diddly. As for grain, Russia won't be able to sell to anyone *but* ChinaIsAsshoe and they will want gold for payment. That means US farmers will have a larger market for their grain. Yes, they did. Europe is not currently buying natural gas because of the sanctions. The gas pipeline is still intact, however, since the idea is once Russia stops doing stupid shit, they may (or may not) resume purchases. They have sufficient oil because they can import that from elsewhere. As for our own energy independence, it would take a few weeks at most to get back to that level because the frackers have re-started things already (due to the price of oil jumping). ChinaIsAsshoe *cant* get out from the dollar for two reasons. One, their entire economy is based on selling their slave-labor produced shit to America. Two, they are a huge imported of oil and gas and they have to buy that oil and gas using dollars. So, you're completely wrong on everything you just posted. |
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Originally Posted By SEAN10MM: Lot's of toasty enemy vehicles. View Quote I am slightly weirded out at the lack of any bodies, like they just vaporized. The scene reminded me a bit of highway of death, but there were loads of bodies there. When he peeked inside the BMP I thought I'd see some crispy dead dudes. |
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By bikedamon: Yeah, dude with no face was rough. And just when you think the camera is panning away it goes back and almost goes into the empty face cavity. “Well his tongue is still there.” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By mokerr: Not gonna buff out Not sure if Telegram links work but if you want the raw shit go there Yeah, dude with no face was rough. And just when you think the camera is panning away it goes back and almost goes into the empty face cavity. “Well his tongue is still there.” I can't seem to get a single Telegram video to play for me. It says "Open in channel" and does nothing. |
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Originally Posted By CTAC: Does identify a unit. Identifies the staging area....at least from our perspectives. Sure there is a little more to that to a Russian but..Chechens didn't have their own marking. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CTAC: Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Originally Posted By GreyHat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJCWtASH4 The aftermath of a fight in Bucha, which is about 10 miles outside Kyiv. Those vehicles had “V” painted on them, isn’t that the same identifier the Chechens were using? Does identify a unit. Identifies the staging area....at least from our perspectives. Sure there is a little more to that to a Russian but..Chechens didn't have their own marking. They didn't have their own specific marking, but their trucks were marked with a "V" https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t3hop1/chechen_mercenaries_release_an_im_coming_for_you/ |
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God Bless Edward Snowden.
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If Russia collapses enough are we gonna see Escape from Tarkov real life edition?
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: I made my predictions early, before the invasion, specifically that there WOULD be an invasion, and that their objective was Kyiv. Now, I’m just watching Russia fail. Their military sucks. Their decision making sucks. The humiliation of Russia is worrisome, but it’s of their own making. My one editorial opinion, and food for thought… Joe Biden was given the power to know in advance what was going to happen (the invasion). However, he didn’t know what to do with that forewarning. He was also told exactly what was going to happen during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, more than a month in advance. In both instances, he was given “decision advantage,” and he had no idea what to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: This thread has devolved into something strange. Would love to have your analysis. I don't always agree with you, but I often do and always appreciate your input. You seem to have been hiding in the .mil forum. I made my predictions early, before the invasion, specifically that there WOULD be an invasion, and that their objective was Kyiv. Now, I’m just watching Russia fail. Their military sucks. Their decision making sucks. The humiliation of Russia is worrisome, but it’s of their own making. My one editorial opinion, and food for thought… Joe Biden was given the power to know in advance what was going to happen (the invasion). However, he didn’t know what to do with that forewarning. He was also told exactly what was going to happen during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, more than a month in advance. In both instances, he was given “decision advantage,” and he had no idea what to do. Another scoop of vanilla please? |
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Originally Posted By cbsaf: You should knock off the personal attacks of calling others idiots. My point was that it is a poor tactic to have a convoy in the open and there is also some reason it isn't being hit. View Quote They don't have the resources. It's a small military, they are being given planes because theirs are pretty much destroyed. |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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“Where we're at.
The Taliban controls Kabul. The cartels control the border. The criminals control the street. COVID Delta controls the economy. And Biden doesn't control anything..” —realwar |
Originally Posted By DepletedUranium: Reports of guys coating their bullets in pig fat are confirmed. Link is below. It's to a webm on 4chan. Webms might not play on your ipad or iphone/mobile device. Ukrainian Coats Bullets in Pig Fat View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Well, the brightside is that he is not the US, Spain, UK and Poland. He has a fraction of the resources and his army a fraction of the training. He has lost a lot of armor and weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By motown_steve: Just keep in mind, it took the US, UK, Poland, Romania, Spain and several other countries a month to capture Iraq. The Fedayeen Saddam chased the Brits out of Basra the first time. That Russia hasn't steamrolled the Ukrainians isn't necessarily good news for the Ukrainians. I'm starting to think that there is something to the idea that Putin wanted to limit civilian casualties and was hoping for a quick and clean decapitation of the Ukrainian government. I'm starting to worry that philosophy is coming to an end, and that things are going to start getting more decisive and brutal. Well, the brightside is that he is not the US, Spain, UK and Poland. He has a fraction of the resources and his army a fraction of the training. He has lost a lot of armor and weapons. We've been brought up on the Rumsfeld doctrine. Anything slower and dirtier seems odd to us. |
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By NunyaBidness: Daughter is 5. I'm NOT fucking watching that shit. Nope. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NunyaBidness: Daughter is 5. I'm NOT fucking watching that shit. Nope. Mine is 9 and her brother is 5. I feel you. I generally can't read that shit. Destroys my soul. I can handle stuff done to adults. When kids are involved? Just crushes me to pieces. |
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Originally Posted By W_E_G: If George Soros is pumping Ukraine, should we be concerned? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/soros_jpg-2297048.JPG View Quote Dk prof is going to have a stroke when he comes back into the thread. |
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Originally Posted By hondaciv: They didn't have their own specific marking, but their trucks were marked with a "V" https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t3hop1/chechen_mercenaries_release_an_im_coming_for_you/ View Quote I like the foil tape addition to the uniforms. |
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Originally Posted By hondaciv: They didn't have their own specific marking, but their trucks were marked with a "V" https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t3hop1/chechen_mercenaries_release_an_im_coming_for_you/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By CTAC: Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Originally Posted By GreyHat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJCWtASH4 The aftermath of a fight in Bucha, which is about 10 miles outside Kyiv. Those vehicles had “V” painted on them, isn’t that the same identifier the Chechens were using? Does identify a unit. Identifies the staging area....at least from our perspectives. Sure there is a little more to that to a Russian but..Chechens didn't have their own marking. They didn't have their own specific marking, but their trucks were marked with a "V" https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t3hop1/chechen_mercenaries_release_an_im_coming_for_you/ yeah....I edited it. I typod. S2 Underground had a good image of it a couple days ago but be damned if I can find it |
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Ukraine still has the best Army recruitment video of all time:
Ukrainian Armed Forces “Each of Us” |
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Originally Posted By YaNi05: I think that was part of Azov claiming to use it against the Chechen orcs 2 days ago. Not sure if they actually engaged with them or it was just a show, but Twitter was, of course, all butthurt about it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By DepletedUranium: Reports of guys coating their bullets in pig fat are confirmed. Link is below. It's to a webm on 4chan. Webms might not play on your ipad or iphone/mobile device. Ukrainian Coats Bullets in Pig Fat I must've missed it if it was somewhere in the last 100 pages of this thread. I can't sift/keep up with it. |
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Originally Posted By GreyHat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesJCWtASH4 The aftermath of a fight in Bucha, which is about 10 miles outside Kyiv. View Quote That looked like a good ambush. |
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: What? Just offered to hook him up if he wanted to go fight. Offered another person too, but think he was talking about being a "combat correspondent " View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Does his sentiment really offend you? What? Just offered to hook him up if he wanted to go fight. Offered another person too, but think he was talking about being a "combat correspondent " Nope; you were trying to make a point shared by every leftist I ever listened to in my lifetime. |
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
Video:
View Quote Maybe they figured Ukraine would pay better? |
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Bad things happen in isolated instances in an armed populace, horrific things happen to a disarmed populace. 20th Century Democide https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
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Originally Posted By motown_steve: Just keep in mind, it took the US, UK, Poland, Romania, Spain and several other countries a month to capture Iraq. The Fedayeen Saddam chased the Brits out of Basra the first time. That Russia hasn't steamrolled the Ukrainians isn't necessarily good news for the Ukrainians. I'm starting to think that there is something to the idea that Putin wanted to limit civilian casualties and was hoping for a quick and clean decapitation of the Ukrainian government. I'm starting to worry that philosophy is coming to an end, and that things are going to start getting more decisive and brutal. View Quote I think you are probably right. I also think that the further Putin escalates this the more support Ukraine will receive from the west...which in turn runs the risk of escalating the situation more. There is no easy path to deescalation right now. |
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Sunrise is on the way. Things seem to pickup in that magical predawn hour. We'll see
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Originally Posted By CTAC: yeah....I edited it. I typod. S2 Underground had a good image of it a couple days ago but be damned if I can find it View Quote This picture? Attached File |
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God Bless Edward Snowden.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/frustrated-putin-may-order-escalation-violence-ukraine-us-officials-sa-rcna18026 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMu2KtHWQAAHPFm?format=jpg&name=900x900 View Quote Wonder if anyone put his image in to that hitler bunker video yet |
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Originally Posted By sulman: I am slightly weirded out at the lack of any bodies, like they just vaporized. The scene reminded me a bit of highway of death, but there were loads of bodies there. When he peeked inside the BMP I thought I'd see some crispy dead dudes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sulman: Originally Posted By SEAN10MM: Lot's of toasty enemy vehicles. I am slightly weirded out at the lack of any bodies, like they just vaporized. The scene reminded me a bit of highway of death, but there were loads of bodies there. When he peeked inside the BMP I thought I'd see some crispy dead dudes. Possible he was inspecting a vehicle in the middle of a convoy or grouping. Fronts and rears get smashed first to create a blockage, those left in the middle get picked off as crew members try to escape on foot if they can't drive out. Hopefully the crews got machine gunned as they made for the fields or got RPG'd as they tried holing up in a structure. |
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Originally Posted By W_E_G: If George Soros is pumping Ukraine, should we be concerned? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/soros_jpg-2297048.JPG View Quote Even the sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while. |
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Originally Posted By Jacon: Russia has nearly conquered the bottom and eastern halves of the country. After that, they move up the Dneiper River and split UKR into two. This gives Putin control of most of Ukraine, their natural resources and pipeline control.....which is everything he wants. View Quote No, Putin has in all liklihood just about lost. Every day of the sanctions, his political position weakens. The great unknown variable is how Ukraine would react. Well, they will fight. They have more fighters then weapons and basically all of Europe will ship them weapons and ammo. The Russians are stupidly sending mech forces in a frontal assault toward Kiev out of the North and Kharkov from the NE. The last thing you do as a mech force facing light infantrymen is make a beeline for cities. But there we are. It will be the worst possible kill ratio for them and the collateral damage and civilian casualties will ruin their political support, and galvanize the Ukrainians. The Russian conscripts are not motivated and that is precisely what you need alot of if you are going to assault a city. Cities absorb HE really well, defenders hole up inside buildings and assaulters are out in the open. and MOUT requires lots of supplies, especially class V, ammo;; and resupply ops dont seem to be going to swell either. At the end of all this, if the Russians continue to want to fight, it goes to insurgency. In short, the defenders are far more motivated then the attackers, but there is a firepower disparity, and that will be mediated quickly. They have done a really good job of information ops and are getting the sorts of soft power they need; supplies and sanctions. That's enough. There is NOT an endstate where the peaceful Ukrainians are part of the Ukraine SSR and are back into the fold. There is NOT an endstate where Putin accomplishes his goals. The question is now about time and blood. I was wrong; I thought the Ukrainians would get rolled like Afghanistan 1979 and win in an insurgency bit the Russians are not even that successful. |
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Originally Posted By 58Teague: Not intentionally. It's time to unsubscribe from this thread though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 58Teague: Originally Posted By CTAC: Originally Posted By 58Teague: wrong thread @58teague Is this a tease? Not intentionally. It's time to unsubscribe from this thread though. no please, stay you have some of the best info @58Teague |
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Originally Posted By sulman: I am slightly weirded out at the lack of any bodies, like they just vaporized. The scene reminded me a bit of highway of death, but there were loads of bodies there. When he peeked inside the BMP I thought I'd see some crispy dead dudes. View Quote Dead bodies get blocked by a lot of platforms and ukraine doesn't want to show them either. Also i don't look at any that report to show them |
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/AF2E845C-BCBD-4498-8431-A31ED0379DBA_png-2297066.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/05CE01AF-5423-47FA-8608-D4D90EF6DBA2_png-2297067.JPG View Quote The world's largest cargo plane by length was severely burnt in a Russian shell attack on Gostomel airport near Kyiv today, Ukraine said. The Ukrainian-made Antonov-225 Mriya, meaning The Dream, could cost more than $3billion (£2.24billion) to repair, a sum Ukraine's state arms manufacturer Ukroboronprom said it would try to get Russia to front up. The 'legendary' plane was originally designed by the Soviet Union when it controlled Ukraine as a Socialist republic but today Ukraine said it was burnt in a Russian attack on Gostomel airport, also known as Hostomel or Antonov airport. The airfield near Kyiv could play a key role for Russia to send more arms to Ukraine. In a statement retweeted by the Ukrainian President's office, the country said: 'We will rebuild the plane https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557563/Fears-iconic-Antonov-225-Ukraine-claimed-damaged-Russians-Kyiv-airfield.html |
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Originally Posted By Jacon: Russia has nearly conquered the bottom and eastern halves of the country. After that, they move up the Dneiper River and split UKR into two. This gives Putin control of most of Ukraine, their natural resources and pipeline control.....which is everything he wants. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jacon: Originally Posted By mokerr: Not sure what you're basing this assessment on. Russia has nearly conquered the bottom and eastern halves of the country. After that, they move up the Dneiper River and split UKR into two. This gives Putin control of most of Ukraine, their natural resources and pipeline control.....which is everything he wants. They haven’t taken Kharkiv or Mariupol and aren’t even contesting Odessa but they’ve taken the “bottom” and eastern halves of the country? Did you learn geography at Medvale, School for the Gifted? BTW, if they had taken two “halves” they’d have taken the whole thing. |
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Originally Posted By planemaker: Yes, they did. Europe is not currently buying natural gas because of the sanctions. The gas pipeline is still intact, however, since the idea is once Russia stops doing stupid shit, they may (or may not) resume purchases. They have sufficient oil because they can import that from elsewhere. As for our own energy independence, it would take a few weeks at most to get back to that level because the frackers have re-started things already (due to the price of oil jumping). ChinaIsAsshoe *cant* get out from the dollar for two reasons. One, their entire economy is based on selling their slave-labor produced shit to America. Two, they are a huge imported of oil and gas and they have to buy that oil and gas using dollars. So, you're completely wrong on everything you just posted. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By YankeeWhite: Originally Posted By planemaker: They did. When Russia got booted out of SWIFT, that cut off the petrodollar avenue. We don't need Russian oil or gas and they know we don't. The fact that our Corruption in Chief is getting his 10% vig for allowing Russian oil to be imported to the US means diddly. As for grain, Russia won't be able to sell to anyone *but* ChinaIsAsshoe and they will want gold for payment. That means US farmers will have a larger market for their grain. Yes, they did. Europe is not currently buying natural gas because of the sanctions. The gas pipeline is still intact, however, since the idea is once Russia stops doing stupid shit, they may (or may not) resume purchases. They have sufficient oil because they can import that from elsewhere. As for our own energy independence, it would take a few weeks at most to get back to that level because the frackers have re-started things already (due to the price of oil jumping). ChinaIsAsshoe *cant* get out from the dollar for two reasons. One, their entire economy is based on selling their slave-labor produced shit to America. Two, they are a huge imported of oil and gas and they have to buy that oil and gas using dollars. So, you're completely wrong on everything you just posted. |
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