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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak:
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ih784: Not racists, just realistic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ih784: Originally Posted By Drsalee: I don’t think those refugees will be allowed in the USA……….too white. Not racists, just realistic. US Embassy in Poland is basically telling Ukrainian refugees to show up, tell them they're students, and they'll get issued a visa. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigReb: You may be wrong there prof. I think poland is mighty nervous that they are next. If shit starts going sideways for the Ukrainians they might fo without nato. Think Putin will go after non NATO countries that used to be in the Russian empire first. Will get more manpower and resources before trying to go in for the big win Or whatever |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:55:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:55:07 PM EDT
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This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them.
If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CitizenQ: Spoils of war Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CitizenQ: Originally Posted By Defcon: What the hell are they going to pay them with?!?! Spoils of war |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:56:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sevenator: I'm wondering why that column remains unmolested, given that we know that Ukraine has drones. If they still have operational plans with guns, they could have a field day. So much weirdness about this whole thing so far. Still seeing that convoy as a honeypot - which is why it is not being attacked. Ukraine is almost certainly getting a ton of intel from NATO, and would be aware of exactly how that convoy is being protected. They can't afford major losses, so might as well attack something unprotected somewhere else and not take the bait. The close coordination of western intel would explain the notable success of the drone strikes, especially in taking out russian air defense systems. The only way I can imagine the Ukrainians sending those critical drones against a SAM site is if they had damn good intel that it wasn't set up / active yet. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:56:56 PM EDT
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All the f-16’s from the Toledo based 180 fighter wing just took off. We normally hear them every day or every other though since they often loop over my place during their training flights so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Definitely had the kids quiet down when I heard the engines though
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:57:10 PM EDT
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Feels like sitting on the sidelines during the big game. Will somebody get in there and wreck that damn convoy!!
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HostisHumaniGeneris]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Even if Putin takes Ukraine he has already said he plans to take more.  He's struggling against Ukraine. He would have no chance against NATO-armed Poland or Baltic states.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gene_wi: This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them. If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. Russia is winning, unfortunately. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:57:40 PM EDT
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The alert sirens are sounding different tonight
Different tone Kiev  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ_Mike: Hitler '38 who the West appeased at the Munich Conference was not "Hitler" '42 whom the world would come to understand in '45. It was still wrong to appease. I'm not sure Putin is being appeased. Those weapons we are sending to Ukraine are going to make things very tough for him. The Ukrainians seem to care enough to defend their own country, and the Russians seem incompetent. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:58:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: The alert sirens are sounding different tonight Different tone Kiev  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yMxxAkN4wand on some cams what I think are tracers turn out to be fast-flying insects thru the camera light :o |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Feed? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By Rhinodo99: Air raid siren Feed?  Failed To Load Title |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Russia is winning, unfortunately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By gene_wi: This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them. If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. Russia is winning, unfortunately. Couple more victories like this and there won't be a Russia, anymore. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:59:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Israel is a non-NATO member with F-35s correct? Just sayin Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Originally Posted By aswrg7:
Israel is a non-NATO member with F-35s correct? Just sayin Who needs a "false flag" when the Russian conscripts walk up and hand you their unit's guidon on a silver plater. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:59:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Oakley]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Doz_TCC: All the f-16’s from the Toledo based 180 fighter wing just took off. We normally hear them every day or every other though since they often loop over my place during their training flights so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Definitely had the kids quiet down when I heard the engines though *Walks outside, scans the sky.. ETA: They're probably assisting TPD.. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:59:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CZRider: So she definitely caught on fire a little at the end there  Also top post pointed out it appeared to be getting towed ny a tractor unless it was just suspiciously stuck in traffic. Possible blue on recently-turned-green there just for more comedic value? If you see something with a Z on it, throw a molotov at it, thems the rules
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:59:59 PM EDT
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You can't tell me that there isn't more than a few Russian Oligarchs who are beyond pissed that Putin is screwing up their ability to party with hot chicks in exotic locations on their yachts. Not to mention the havoc he has caused in their financial holdings. This continues much longer I have to think they will make a move on him.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:00:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Still seeing that convoy as a honeypot - which is why it is not being attacked. Ukraine is almost certainly getting a ton of intel from NATO, and would be aware of exactly how that convoy is being protected. They can't afford major losses, so might as well attack something unprotected somewhere else and not take the bait. And as long as it's not moving, it's doing the Russians no good. It's all useful materiel that can be captured and used later. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: I definitely HOPE I am wrong. But seeing a Russian convoy sitting unmolested for days, and just getting bigger, is a very bad sign. Seeing Ukrainian formations potentially getting encircled is a very bad sign. Seeing Russia beginning to use cluster munitions in urban areas is a very bad sign. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I'm seeing more avenues to Russia losing / being forced to withdrawal. Supply line collapse: Sure, the big convoy is coming through without getting attacked, but they need resupply everywhere. a couple giant slow convoys cannot satisfy their logistical needs. Troop morale collapse: they're conservatively at 2% KIA in five days, and might have literally walked into this expecting a training mission. At what point do the Russian troops break? Unrest at home forcing Russia's hand: stock market started crashing and was frozen, runs on banks, exchange rate plummeting, loss of trade threatening to implode their economy and ruin their already meager quality of life. How long until the protests get bigger and more aggressive? I definitely HOPE I am wrong. But seeing a Russian convoy sitting unmolested for days, and just getting bigger, is a very bad sign. Seeing Ukrainian formations potentially getting encircled is a very bad sign. Seeing Russia beginning to use cluster munitions in urban areas is a very bad sign. If Russia uses its army as a blunt object they’ll take Kiev and probably the whole nation. But the Ukrainians are bloodying the Russians a lot more than anyone thought they would, which is a good thing. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTAC: Thanks. A link I just found interesting regarding Russian radio......... Monitoring Airwaves During Ukrainian Conflict Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTAC: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By CTAC: @mancow- How often are you picking up traffic on comms? Been on for an hour and haven't found hardly anything. I do see what appears to be a lot of jamming on the waterfall. @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ Thanks. A link I just found interesting regarding Russian radio......... Monitoring Airwaves During Ukrainian Conflict Bookmarking that for later... |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: A lot of arguing and conspiracies, peace talks broke down, a big convoy is still heard towards Kyiv. So, basically nothing. 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: When that was first posted I was thinking to myself wouldn't it be funny if Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Originally Posted By elcope: @CTAC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471670/Screenshot_20220227-155643_Instagram_jpg-2295373.JPG Use this to listen, pick a SDR near Eastern Europe http://rx.linkfanel.net/ Oh yea, they have. It's been an international gang bang of jammers. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:02:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By et_slowpoke: And as long as it's not moving, it's doing the Russians no good. It's all useful materiel that can be captured and used later. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By et_slowpoke: Originally Posted By governmentman: Still seeing that convoy as a honeypot - which is why it is not being attacked. Ukraine is almost certainly getting a ton of intel from NATO, and would be aware of exactly how that convoy is being protected. They can't afford major losses, so might as well attack something unprotected somewhere else and not take the bait. And as long as it's not moving, it's doing the Russians no good. It's all useful materiel that can be captured and used later. Which again says bait / honeypot to me. It's a ton of critical resources that are desperately needed all across the warzone. Crawling along at a walking pace is not a viable supply delivery option, so it must be serving some other purpose. If super slow convoy like this is Russia's only remaining logistical option, they'll lose in a matter of days. Not possible to keep up with the rate of consumption this way. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Russia is winning, unfortunately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By gene_wi: This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them. If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. Russia is winning, unfortunately. "winning" The Russian economy is in shambles after a few days of sanctions. Even if/when they win, they've still lost. As I mentioned earlier, FSB are now questioning Russian citizens leaving Russia... not the actions of someone that is "winning" in the traditional sense of the word. Yes, they're likely to take Kiev, but this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris: A few people here need to read this:
You can have morals but don’t have to act morally amirite 🤔 |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Russia is winning, unfortunately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By gene_wi: This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them. If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. Russia is winning, unfortunately. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:04:08 PM EDT
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Im just here to open my doors to any of the hot UKR refugee chicks that Ive seen on the FaceGram, InstaBook and TikTacs
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Would you rather stay and fight for your home, or have your family moved to the projects in East Baltimore? Wife and kids out of the war zone. They don’t have to go to the hood like you want. There’s thousands of Americans who would take them in. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:04:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parabellum08: Yep. Even if Zelenskii doesn’t want to liberalize gun ownership after this, there will so many guns distributed/left lying around on the battlefield by dead/wounded/surrendered troops that any gun control laws will become somewhat irrelevant. People might need to hide what they have, but lots of people are going to get/stay strapped just in case. I personally know a guy in Norway whose family still has an MP40 lying in a closet that was looted when the German occupation troops left. Just in case the war wasn’t as over as everybody thought it was. Illegal guns leftover from the war are very much still a thing 80 years after the fact. I refer to it as the dirty little secret of European gun control. Also important to remember is that the EU will likely make Ukraine have some baseline of gun control to be a part of the EU, Schengen Zone, or European Economic Area. They have made Switzerland change their laws several times on the latter two bases. Maybe Europe changes a little of their view on “gun control”. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Greyswandir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxccQbqL44wDark Lord of Optics....russian guy (immigrated to the US and hates communists) who works in the optics industry had an interesting video last night about some of this stuff. He has a guy on that is former Ukrainian military that is in contact with some of his friends back in Kiev etc. It's a very long video but basically Spetznaz folks were in Kiev and other cities months ahead of the invasion. They rented apts, got jobs, etc to blend in. Once the invasion kicked off they started doing all of their special operator guy stuff but were quickly discovered by Ukrainian police and military and eliminated. Thanks for the link and info. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Jesus. The tinfoil is strong today. And the purse swinging is out of control. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:05:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: .rumor is he's sick Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Javak: Putin certainly looks old and bloated. .rumor is he's sick In his last year, his face had that same bloated look Putin now has. We could barely carry the casket. If it is brain tumors, entire sections of the brain go on the fritz, which combined with Putin's megamaniacal personality, could lead to his seemingly irrational and paranoid behavior. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:06:10 PM EDT
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Live stream is playing Whiskey Meyers again and the FO Crow is crowing. It's about to go down!
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ih784: Wife and kids out of the war zone. They don’t have to go to the hood like you want. There’s thousands of Americans who would take them in. pic of wife? sorry, just trying to break the tension here for a moment |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:06:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustaGunNut: Nice drive by! A little splash back, but mostly peaceful.
Ballsy! That blonde babe has big brass ones. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:08:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: southerncross]
[#41]
Sure looks like the repair bill for the Russians is gonna be a scorcher.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:09:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT_CAVEMAN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: All the drone strikes I see are hitting buks first. Are they doing that for the secondary carnage, or because the Ukrainians have air assets like frogfoots to hit these convoys? That convoy had got to get decimated How many migs did they just get from Europe? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hking: This is all so fucking confusing. Are they just sending the decoy battalions made up of retards from insane asylums with junk gear hoping they will burn up all the Ukrainian NLAWS and Javelins before sending in their actual military? Or is this Russians actual military that everyone ahs been so afraid of? 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: That is A LOT of fuel that didn't get to Russian forces. Hah, the villagers siphoning fuel out into every container they have! Suck it russkies! |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: "winning" The Russian economy is in shambles after a few days of sanctions. Even if/when they win, they've still lost. As I mentioned earlier, FSB are now questioning Russian citizens leaving Russia... not the actions of someone that is "winning" in the traditional sense of the word. Yes, they're likely to take Kiev, but this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Originally Posted By gene_wi: This is the most insane set of events that defy all logic and reason. I firmly believe we are witnessing russia commit suicide as a nation and likely as an ethnicity. Only way russia survives this is with a military coup or a popular uprising against Putin. Ukraine already won this war. Glory to them. If this is some kind of Dugin induced autistic crusade and russian troops shell or storm Kyiv, they deserve everything that happens to them for attacking the birthplace of their own civilization. Russia is winning, unfortunately. "winning" The Russian economy is in shambles after a few days of sanctions. Even if/when they win, they've still lost. As I mentioned earlier, FSB are now questioning Russian citizens leaving Russia... not the actions of someone that is "winning" in the traditional sense of the word. Yes, they're likely to take Kiev, but this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory. Fucking dickhead Putin. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:10:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Don't get me wrong. LOTS of people want to help, but no Western government is willing to get directly involved, and send their OWN military units to fight/kill Russian units. And unfortunately without direct intervention, I don't think all of the help (weapons, materiel, supplies, volunteers, etc.) will be ENOUGH. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By BlueSetter: I hope Ukraine Decimates the Russian forces. That said, do we now completely discount US intel? From the start they’ve said this will be an overwhelming win for Russia. If we do discount our own intel services, how screwed are we? I mean, if we got this so wrong, and Afghanistan so wrong, are we the incompetent ones? Russia is almost certainly still going to "win" - in the sense that the math/numbers haven't changed, and nobody in the West is willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine for losing. They will eventually destroy the Ukraine military, and they will eventually take the cities. But, the WAY they are winning is obviously not what they had planned, and this whole thing is blowing up in Putin's face. I just watched a flight from Denmark and a flight from Germany land just inside western Ukraine They flew with their transponders on the whole way... totally out of fucks to give. I wouldn't be so quick to say "Nobody will help." because I just saw it happen/ Don't get me wrong. LOTS of people want to help, but no Western government is willing to get directly involved, and send their OWN military units to fight/kill Russian units. And unfortunately without direct intervention, I don't think all of the help (weapons, materiel, supplies, volunteers, etc.) will be ENOUGH. And then Ukraine goes to an insurgency phase. Their people are motivated, combat-experienced, and enough arms have been distributed that Russian occupation forces won’t be able to find them all (or even most of them). They will also have a lot of trouble patrolling the Carpathian border region and swampy/forested Polish/Ukrainian/Belarusian border region to interdict arms being brought in from Hungary, Romania, and Poland. Russia can “win” all they want, they can’t make 40 million people with a large and continuous supply of weapons not hate them, especially not after what they’ve done. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:12:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronnoc: How long till we see an Arfcom user name of OdessaA$$Bandit?  Change request submitted.... |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Suburbanhillbilly: I had a very close friend who died of brain cancer. The bloating was from the treatments trying to kill the brain tumors. In his last year, his face had that same bloated look Putin now has. We could barely carry the casket. If it is brain tumors, entire sections of the brain go on the fritz, which combined with Putin's megamaniacal personality, could lead to his seemingly irrational and paranoid behavior. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Suburbanhillbilly: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Javak: Putin certainly looks old and bloated. .rumor is he's sick In his last year, his face had that same bloated look Putin now has. We could barely carry the casket. If it is brain tumors, entire sections of the brain go on the fritz, which combined with Putin's megamaniacal personality, could lead to his seemingly irrational and paranoid behavior. That - or maybe just a parasite in the brain from all the gay sex Putin has.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 3:12:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: How many migs did they just get from Europe? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: All the drone strikes I see are hitting buks first. Are they doing that for the secondary carnage, or because the Ukrainians have air assets like frogfoots to hit these convoys? That convoy had got to get decimated How many migs did they just get from Europe? There were tweets posted in either this thread or the mil one saying the EU backed out. |
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