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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:00:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Its pagan. The nazis had no original runes, they were all existing and some were modified to their needs. I am no super historian, I just liked runes and did research years ago. Nothing to do with nazis, mostly Tolkein and the runes in the stories. The same people who make up shit about racism are the ones who promote this nazi shit. It's all they see, everywhere. Seems I saw a YouTube recently where the plains Indians actually built one 3 to 8 hundred years ago that can still be seen today. 28 spokes for 28 lunar cycles = 28 days. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:01:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:11:33 PM EDT
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So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Goodn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. All the funding to modernize their military was looted so only a few of each were made, So... They are the thin frosting on a multi layer shit cake.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I don't know what kind of diplomacy is happening behind the scenes, but I want there to be military support for Moldova to capture/kill all the Russians in Transnistria. They can't do it themselves, so they'd have to authorize foreign troops to fight on their land. It would be worth it to place Moldovan advisers with some command authority in every unit, be they Romanian or Polish or whatever. Ukraine needs this relief. Transnistria is an axe hanging over them, just waiting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By ludder093: It's going to be interesting when shit kicks off in Transnistria  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptLTyD0q0TsI don't know what kind of diplomacy is happening behind the scenes, but I want there to be military support for Moldova to capture/kill all the Russians in Transnistria. They can't do it themselves, so they'd have to authorize foreign troops to fight on their land. It would be worth it to place Moldovan advisers with some command authority in every unit, be they Romanian or Polish or whatever. Ukraine needs this relief. Transnistria is an axe hanging over them, just waiting. Moldova is next on the menu
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:20:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. Well…. Russia know the negative press and perception they would get when trying to sell to China/Nork/Iran/Venezuela/Cuba/etc when their SU57 is carrying dumb bombs and is shot down by a 1970s vintage IGLA/Stinger and their T14 has its turret sent into orbit by a $200 drone dropping a fin stabilized duct taped grenade on it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:21:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. There's not much of either and I think they don't want to fly the Su-57 with all the NATO radar and ISR assets around. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:22:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. The T-14 cannot be mass produced by Russian industry, they are basically built one at a time. And with T72 / T80 production halted due to lack of component parts due to sanctions, don't look for them ever. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:25:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: For me it’s very much a thing to deal with after the war is over. Should they continue to try and clean up the last extremist portions in groups like Azov? Absolutely, but now isn’t the time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Hesperus: I like that symbol, aesthetically speaking. Detest the people who use it though. It's way older than the nazis. I just ignore the hand wringing over fucking patches. For me it’s very much a thing to deal with after the war is over. Should they continue to try and clean up the last extremist portions in groups like Azov? Absolutely, but now isn’t the time. My understanding is that those symbols were used by eastern Europeans long before the nazis appropriated them. What is wrong with the eastern Europeans taking them back? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:29:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: YaNi05]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I don't know what kind of diplomacy is happening behind the scenes, but I want there to be military support for Moldova to capture/kill all the Russians in Transnistria. They can't do it themselves, so they'd have to authorize foreign troops to fight on their land. It would be worth it to place Moldovan advisers with some command authority in every unit, be they Romanian or Polish or whatever. Ukraine needs this relief. Transnistria is an axe hanging over them, just waiting. Russia has 2-3 BTG's in Transnistria, so 2000-3000 troops total isn't enough to do anything significant. The orcs would need to push through Mykolaiv and take Odesa before Transnistria was in play. And I don't see that happening at this point. The UA are pinning a bunch of troops in place at Kherson, so even if they don't recapture it they are keeping troops tied up that would probably be transferred to the Donbas. I think the orcs would need to basically take Donbas and push all the way to the Dnipro River, before they had enough forces to push in the South. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:32:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: What does FSB have to do with this? |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:34:14 PM EDT
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It’s getting time for a new poll ain’t OP. Having multiple polls as this progresses is very interesting for posterity.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:41:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: realwar]
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*Pulled
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:47:22 PM EDT
[#15]
Anyone have the map being shown by lavrov with arrows towards Poland, the Baltics, and others?
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:53:12 PM EDT
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UK walking the walk. Pissing off Putin
 UK goes all out against #Russia- Gives #Brimstone missile to #Ukraine ! |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6SJ7GT: My understanding is that those symbols were used by eastern Europeans long before the nazis appropriated them. What is wrong with the eastern Europeans taking them back? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Originally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Hesperus: I like that symbol, aesthetically speaking. Detest the people who use it though. It's way older than the nazis. I just ignore the hand wringing over fucking patches. For me it’s very much a thing to deal with after the war is over. Should they continue to try and clean up the last extremist portions in groups like Azov? Absolutely, but now isn’t the time. My understanding is that those symbols were used by eastern Europeans long before the nazis appropriated them. What is wrong with the eastern Europeans taking them back? That's how I understand it as well. Nazi's appropriated those images. And now, ever since the end of WW2 those images have gotten a bad rap. Personally I don't care if the Eastern Europeans use them. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:55:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Lots of russian generals are getting hit. Why is this one different? Damn, cia ELINT be like it is |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CletusRoundbelly: The T-14 cannot be mass produced by Russian industry, they are basically built one at a time. And with T72 / T80 production halted due to lack of component parts due to sanctions, don't look for them ever. Russia has the most screwed up military production and procurement system out there, even if you ignore all of the corruption and stealing. They are still building T72s, have fielded T80s, T90s, and about 15 different variants of T-72s it seems like. No wonder they have such a terrible time with logistics. It doesn't seems like standardization is something they've placed a priority on. Their aircraft are the same way. Dozens of different variants and only building a few of each. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:55:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. Both of those aren’t in serious production. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: The cover-up in Ukraine is getting worse | Redacted with Clayton Morris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skd9hWsFdAgWe all want to be informed; our constitutional “right to know” should not be compromised by media-driven falsehoods and corporate storylines. Redacted, with Natali and Clayton Morris, is a concerted effort to save the truth, preserve information, and fight propaganda. Clayton Morris is a former Fox News anchor. In Redacted, Clayton and his wife Natali take an in-depth look at the legal, social, financial, and personal issues that matter to you. They want to set the record straight and bring you the stories nobody else is telling. Along with the facts and the full picture, Redacted offers real-world analysis without an agency driven by corporate overloads. With Clayton’s extensive journalism experience, he isn’t afraid to demand the truth from authorities. Redacted is an independent platform, unencumbered by external factors or restrictive policies on which Clayton and Natali Morris bring you quality information, balanced reporting, constructive debate, and thoughtful narratives. You could have posted a propaganda piece by someone who didn’t flee the US to avoid prosecution 🤷🏼♂️ That was entirely full of shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:56:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SEAN10MM: That's how I understand it as well. Nazi's appropriated those images. And now, ever since the end of WW2 those images have gotten a bad rap. Personally I don't care if the Eastern Europeans use them. only off by a few hundred years |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 7:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: The cover-up in Ukraine is getting worse | Redacted with Clayton Morris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skd9hWsFdAgWe all want to be informed; our constitutional “right to know” should not be compromised by media-driven falsehoods and corporate storylines. Redacted, with Natali and Clayton Morris, is a concerted effort to save the truth, preserve information, and fight propaganda. Clayton Morris is a former Fox News anchor. In Redacted, Clayton and his wife Natali take an in-depth look at the legal, social, financial, and personal issues that matter to you. They want to set the record straight and bring you the stories nobody else is telling. Along with the facts and the full picture, Redacted offers real-world analysis without an agency driven by corporate overloads. With Clayton’s extensive journalism experience, he isn’t afraid to demand the truth from authorities. Redacted is an independent platform, unencumbered by external factors or restrictive policies on which Clayton and Natali Morris bring you quality information, balanced reporting, constructive debate, and thoughtful narratives. Lol. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: The cover-up in Ukraine is getting worse | Redacted with Clayton Morris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skd9hWsFdAgWe all want to be informed; our constitutional “right to know” should not be compromised by media-driven falsehoods and corporate storylines. Redacted, with Natali and Clayton Morris, is a concerted effort to save the truth, preserve information, and fight propaganda. Clayton Morris is a former Fox News anchor. In Redacted, Clayton and his wife Natali take an in-depth look at the legal, social, financial, and personal issues that matter to you. They want to set the record straight and bring you the stories nobody else is telling. Along with the facts and the full picture, Redacted offers real-world analysis without an agency driven by corporate overloads. With Clayton’s extensive journalism experience, he isn’t afraid to demand the truth from authorities. Redacted is an independent platform, unencumbered by external factors or restrictive policies on which Clayton and Natali Morris bring you quality information, balanced reporting, constructive debate, and thoughtful narratives. Ah a bullshit artist US led coup, weapons for white supremacists ect. ect. No metion of the internationally and LEGALY BINDING binding agreement that Russia would respect the territorial integrety of Ukraine for giving up it's nukes. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:05:16 PM EDT
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latest on steel mill rescues?
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You could have posted a propaganda piece by someone who didn’t flee the US to avoid prosecution 🤷🏼♂️ That was entirely full of shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/4D261C11-3750-4B78-980C-59CBE3E58092_jpe-2369031.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By realwar: The cover-up in Ukraine is getting worse | Redacted with Clayton Morris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skd9hWsFdAgWe all want to be informed; our constitutional “right to know” should not be compromised by media-driven falsehoods and corporate storylines. Redacted, with Natali and Clayton Morris, is a concerted effort to save the truth, preserve information, and fight propaganda. Clayton Morris is a former Fox News anchor. In Redacted, Clayton and his wife Natali take an in-depth look at the legal, social, financial, and personal issues that matter to you. They want to set the record straight and bring you the stories nobody else is telling. Along with the facts and the full picture, Redacted offers real-world analysis without an agency driven by corporate overloads. With Clayton’s extensive journalism experience, he isn’t afraid to demand the truth from authorities. Redacted is an independent platform, unencumbered by external factors or restrictive policies on which Clayton and Natali Morris bring you quality information, balanced reporting, constructive debate, and thoughtful narratives. You could have posted a propaganda piece by someone who didn’t flee the US to avoid prosecution 🤷🏼♂️ That was entirely full of shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/4D261C11-3750-4B78-980C-59CBE3E58092_jpe-2369031.JPG Purely unreated of course I just read that Lavrov today made the accusation that the US was training Neo Nazis elememts of the Ukrainian armed forces. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: There's not much of either and I think they don't want to fly the Su-57 with all the NATO radar and ISR assets around. More paper tiger stuff. They bragged up the fact that they had these things, intending to scare and impress everybody. If those things get destroyed the result will be their bluff is proven to be a bluff. I'm sure those weapons are hell on first world countries, which is who they want to scare. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Purely unreated of course I just read that Lavrov today made the accusation that the US was training Neo Nazis elememts of the Ukrainian armed forces. Yes. Purely unrelated. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:13:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: latest on steel mill rescues? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: latest on steel mill rescues? Dozens of women and children were evacuated from the besieged Azovstal steel plant in the southeastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol this weekend, Ukrainian and Russian officials said Sunday, amid an international effort to allow safe passage for civilians sheltering in the decimated port city's last remaining bastion of Ukrainian resistance. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tweeted Sunday around 100 people were evacuated from the Azovstal complex and sent to the city of Zaporizhzhia, and government and UN officials are now "working on the evacuation of other civilians from the plant." The International Committee of the Red Cross told Forbes a civilian evacuation convoy reached Mariupol on Saturday, and said a "safe passage operation is ongoing" in coordination with the United Nations, though the organization declined to share further details due to safety concerns. Svyatoslav Palamar of the Ukrainian paramilitary Azov regiment said in a Telegram post Saturday an evacuation convoy picked up around 20 women and children from the plant, and Palamar told the New York Times evacuation efforts would continue as long as the Russians don't "start shooting again." The evacuations appeared to continue on Sunday, as the Russian defense ministry announced that a total of 46 civilians had been evacuated from the plant in two groups. By Sunday evening, Mariupol's City Council announced on Telegram evacuations were paused until Monday due to security concerns. It is unclear how many civilians remain in the complex, but Ukrainian officials previously stated that nearly 1,000 civilians and fighters were trapped in the plant as Russian forces have moved in to take control of the rest of the city. Dozens Of Civilians Evacuated From Besieged Mariupol Steel Plant, Officials Say |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:17:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: What it is or was don't matter. What matters is why is the person wearing it. If it's a pagan thing, it is. If it is a nazi thing, it is. It certainly should be an internal thing but currently Ukraine is absolutely dependent on the rest of the world thinking of them as the good guys. Ukraine absolutely can't do as well as they have done without western weapons and support. Russia has been painting them as nazis in order to erode that support. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Its pagan. The nazis had no original runes, they were all existing and some were modified to their needs. I am no super historian, I just liked runes and did research years ago. Nothing to do with nazis, mostly Tolkein and the runes in the stories. The same people who make up shit about racism are the ones who promote this nazi shit. It's all they see, everywhere. What it is or was don't matter. What matters is why is the person wearing it. If it's a pagan thing, it is. If it is a nazi thing, it is. It certainly should be an internal thing but currently Ukraine is absolutely dependent on the rest of the world thinking of them as the good guys. Ukraine absolutely can't do as well as they have done without western weapons and support. Russia has been painting them as nazis in order to erode that support. Maybe this will help clear this up for you:  That symbol is from the Rodnovery religion (taken from a Rodnovery website shown with Russian or possibly Ukrainian embroidery in the background), it's a pagan religion practiced by slavic countries for over 1,500 years. Ukraine/Kyivan-Rus became Christian in 988 (long before Muscovy/Russia was even established). There are many Rodnovery customs which were and still are part of Slavic Christian traditions. I know because I grew up as a Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic (mostly, I'm also half Italian so I was baptized Roman rite) and went to a Ukrainian parochial school for eight years and was an alter boy in the Byzantine rite for six years. After becoming a Christian over 30 years ago, I learned and realized how much influence the Rodnovery religion had on not only Byzantine and Orthodoxy Catholicism but also in superstitions and customs my grandparents had. Anyway, Azov Battalion was founded by practitioners of Rodnovery. They still accept Catholics, Jews, and Christians but the leadership's agenda is or maybe was to push Ukrainian nationalism WITH a promotion of Rodnovery - they feel it's the true religion of Ukraine and that the Christian faith has brought in outsiders who always undermined Ukraine. Here are some links for further reading: https://meettheslavs.com/rodnovery/ https://mycountryeurope.com/politics/other-side-europe-ukraine/ As lorazepam stated, it's not being used because Azov likes Nazis, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought the Nazis in WW2 and inflicted heavy losses on them. My grandparents and mother lost their business and home to the Nazis and wound up in a Nazi camp. My mother is still alive and remembers it all very well. @stone-age @lorazepam |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: What it is or was don't matter. What matters is why is the person wearing it. If it's a pagan thing, it is. If it is a nazi thing, it is. It certainly should be an internal thing but currently Ukraine is absolutely dependent on the rest of the world thinking of them as the good guys. Ukraine absolutely can't do as well as they have done without western weapons and support. Russia has been painting them as nazis in order to erode that support. Serious question. Why does it matter to anyone outside Ukraine? Who decides, like wikibullshit what the meaning is, and then puts that meaning on people they do not know, personally, or their culture. They should go back to being outraged by sports team names. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:24:37 PM EDT
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Yesterday, the Bars-7 assault squad, a member of a private military company Wagner attacked Ukrainian positions in Luhansk region. A large group of mercenaries broke into the first trench of our supporter. However, the Ukrainian soldiers did not tremble, accepted a close fight, and completely defeated the opponent. Russian troops suffered heavy losses, many were killed, and 7 mercenaries of the Bars-7 squad were captured by the soldiers of one of our mechanized teams. The mercenaries reported that they were hired through Russian military forces for a salary of 205 thousand rubles. Captured officer - Major Viktor Korzhavin from Chelyabinsk region, Radist Sergei Bogdanov from Krasnodar Krai, city of Timoshevsk, soldiers Vladimir Nasyrov from Ufa, Sudnev Valery from Izhevsk, junior sergeant Yushkov Dmitry, resident of Lugansk Kovalenko Dmitry, and also another Russian citizen from Tomsk. All of them, captured with a fight with weapons in their hands, told that the Bars-7 squad came to the front on April 20. In 10 days of fighting, they said, about 150 killed and wounded out of 400 people. Adults, who, according to them, came to restore the Donbass, guard the rear, drive cars and talk on the radio, treat the wounded. Well, not a single militant among them, but for some reason they took rifles and went to occupy the "empty height". These are some strange creatures. And there were a lot of refusers in Bars-7 according to the Russians, but they themselves did not go to the refusers. They lie, it's obvious, they came to kill, and were ready to get paid for it, but only to meet military professionals on the site of the attack, who quickly made the right decisions. In general, the lack of human resources in Russia is obvious. In fact, Russia has begun a partial mobilization. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:26:03 PM EDT
[#33]
NAssIs is everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL They just wont stop with the clown show.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilverBearX: Some real deal communists in this thread. Dont say anything not good for the party! Please point then out. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You could have posted a propaganda piece by someone who didn’t flee the US to avoid prosecution 🤷🏼♂️ That was entirely full of shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/4D261C11-3750-4B78-980C-59CBE3E58092_jpe-2369031.JPG Did he flee, I have no idea. What's the backstory? |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:31:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Damn, cia ELINT be like it is Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By stone-age: Lots of russian generals are getting hit. Why is this one different? Damn, cia ELINT be like it is Originally Posted By stone-age: Ah, got it. I didn't know that. All I know is "another russian general", basically. The further up the ladder the better. You got me. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:31:13 PM EDT
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Thread jammers always jammin up a good active war thread with the Nassiis is everywhere bullshift.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By defendtexas: NAssIs is everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL They just wont stop with the clown show. Of course not, why would they stop? It's all they know.  Hellsing Ultimate - Jan Valentine's Death |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Maybe this will help clear this up for you: https://i.ibb.co/31y6RrH/20220501-194746.jpg That symbol is from the Rodnovery religion (taken from a Rodnovery website shown with Russian or possibly Ukrainian embroidery in the background), it's a pagan religion practiced by slavic countries for over 1,500 years. Ukraine/Kyivan-Rus became Christian in 988 (long before Muscovy/Russia was even established). There are many Rodnovery customs which were and still are part of Slavic Christian traditions. I know because I grew up as a Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic (mostly, I'm also half Italian so I was baptized Roman rite) and went to a Ukrainian parochial school for eight years and was an alter boy in the Byzantine rite for six years. After becoming a Christian over 30 years ago, I learned and realized how much influence the Rodnovery religion had on not only Byzantine and Orthodoxy but also in superstitions and customs my grandparents had. Anyway, Azov Battalion was founded by practitioners of Rodnovery. They still accept Catholics, Jews, and Christians but the leadership's agenda is or maybe was to push Ukrainian nationalism WITH a promotion of Rodnovery - they feel it's the true religion of Ukraine and that the Christian faith has brought in outsiders who always undermined Ukraine. Here are some links for further reading: https://meettheslavs.com/rodnovery/ https://mycountryeurope.com/politics/other-side-europe-ukraine/ As lorazepam stated, it's not being used because Azov likes Nazis, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought the Nazis in WW2 and inflicted heavy losses on them. My grandparents and mother lost their business and home to the Nazis and wound up in a Nazi camp. My mother is still alive and remembers it all very well. @stone-age @lorazepam Thank you. Easter eggs, easter bunny are pagan symbols for spring and rebirth. They were allowed to try to recruit pagans into christians before they killed and tortured them for not loving jesus. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:39:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Please point then out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Some real deal communists in this thread. Dont say anything not good for the party! Please point then out. Don’t you want to eradicate gLoBoHoMo!?!?!?!! It’s all Americas fault that Russia just HAD to invade! Reeeeeeee!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: So… Russia touted their T-14 tanks and SU-57 stealth fighters as world beaters. But where the hell are they? Not anywhere on the battlefield that I have seen. They've hardly built any T-14s last I read. Mostly pre-production models. Series production kept getting pushed back. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:44:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: *Pulled      |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:44:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: Is there any real benefit to mankind, aside from keeping the Russian rocket program going, coming from the ISS? Seems like more of a waste in the name of international brotherhood, kind of like space camp, but in space? It is the one and only laboratory available for doing zero-g research and manufacturing. It is quite useful. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Translation: Today, the M270 MLRS was deployed against the positions of Russian occupiers near the Donetsk region. How to use M270, shown in the video (not in Ukraine). Range of missiles up to 74.5 miles, strike area up to 62 acres. *Compare that to Russian Grad rockets with a maximum range of only 27 miles. Russian SMERCH rockets (300mm) have a maximum range of 56 miles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeNvZiUFBiQWelp, if they have a halfway decent FDC, that's going to leave a mark!
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:50:01 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: They've hardly built any T-14s last I read. Mostly pre-production models. Series production kept getting pushed back. Saving them for the big parade. 
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:53:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:54:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Maybe this will help clear this up for you: https://i.ibb.co/31y6RrH/20220501-194746.jpg That symbol is from the Rodnovery religion (taken from a Rodnovery website shown with Russian or possibly Ukrainian embroidery in the background), it's a pagan religion practiced by slavic countries for over 1,500 years. Ukraine/Kyivan-Rus became Christian in 988 (long before Muscovy/Russia was even established). There are many Rodnovery customs which were and still are part of Slavic Christian traditions. I know because I grew up as a Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic (mostly, I'm also half Italian so I was baptized Roman rite) and went to a Ukrainian parochial school for eight years and was an alter boy in the Byzantine rite for six years. After becoming a Christian over 30 years ago, I learned and realized how much influence the Rodnovery religion had on not only Byzantine and Orthodoxy but also in superstitions and customs my grandparents had. Anyway, Azov Battalion was founded by practitioners of Rodnovery. They still accept Catholics, Jews, and Christians but the leadership's agenda is or maybe was to push Ukrainian nationalism WITH a promotion of Rodnovery - they feel it's the true religion of Ukraine and that the Christian faith has brought in outsiders who always undermined Ukraine. Here are some links for further reading: https://meettheslavs.com/rodnovery/ https://mycountryeurope.com/politics/other-side-europe-ukraine/ As lorazepam stated, it's not being used because Azov likes Nazis, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought the Nazis in WW2 and inflicted heavy losses on them. My grandparents and mother lost their business and home to the Nazis and wound up in a Nazi camp. My mother is still alive and remembers it all very well. @stone-age @lorazepam You think they should keep wearing it as a pagan symbol, I think they should stop wearing it to prevent russia using it for propaganda. That's fine. We don't have to agree on this. It's not a big deal. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:54:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Saving them for the big parade. I'm sure they'll have all they have made there running in a circle around the back of the Kremlin and out front again.
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: They don't have enough of them and can't afford to lose any of the ones they have. If they even work that is... I’m wondering how stealthy it really is. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 8:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Welp, if they have a halfway decent FDC, that's going to leave a mark! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By realwar: Translation: Today, the M270 MLRS was deployed against the positions of Russian occupiers near the Donetsk region. How to use M270, shown in the video (not in Ukraine). Range of missiles up to 74.5 miles, strike area up to 62 acres. *Compare that to Russian Grad rockets with a maximum range of only 27 miles. Russian SMERCH rockets (300mm) have a maximum range of 56 miles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeNvZiUFBiQWelp, if they have a halfway decent FDC, that's going to leave a mark! My dog could do MLRS FDC shit with his eyes closed. |
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