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Originally Posted By stone-age: Russian sympathisers will try to turn westerners against Ukranians for whatever reason they can find. Pushing wedges is what they do. It's effective and it's a good value. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Tiberius: That advances the narrative…..evil Jesus Freaks are gonna make poor Ukrainians oppose gay marriage and abortion. What has triggered them is they just learned about the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which has the same viewpoints minus the Putin-Worship and crypto-fascism. Russian sympathisers will try to turn westerners against Ukranians for whatever reason they can find. Pushing wedges is what they do. It's effective and it's a good value. No doubt…..but woke libtards are highly dogmatic and intolerant, it was only a matter of time until they realized Ukrainians are no more interested in being what libtards want than they are of being what Russians want. I knew this would happen, but had hoped it would be when Ukraine was closer to victory than now. For that matter, it’s also ironic how the Puffers reject Ukrainians, who are doing many of the things they claim to be for, simply because the libtards support them. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: In TOS the Klingons were the USSR, the Romulans were the Chinese. Post-Soviet Russia is like the Cardassians…. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Originally Posted By panthermark: USSR/Russia are basically the Zakdorn of Star Trek TNG. No one ever dared attack them because they had the reputation for being the best strategic thinkers in the galaxy, but Lt. Worf pointed out that since no one ever put it to the test, their reputation was meaningless. The USSR/Russia match in Star Trek is the Romulan Star Empire. There are WAY more parallels between them than any other. That said, "we" obviously believed Russia was far more competent and capable than they are or have been, for quite some time. If present-day Russia really were as dangerous to us as the Romulans were to the Federation, we'd be in serious trouble- as much- now as back in the height of Cold War tensions. In TOS the Klingons were the USSR, the Romulans were the Chinese. Post-Soviet Russia is like the Cardassians…. Nah the Klingons we're out allies post tng so it aligns with the Russians. |
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Originally Posted By MostlyPeaceful: @dillydilly He's a good man for coming to that conclusion. Best of luck in his endeavor. View Quote @MostlyPeaceful Ya I was surprised and proud of him. His brothers are the same. Totally different understanding on life. They’ve made their peace. Stopped me in my tracks. In fact he said that their church didn’t tell them to run away or escape. Makes me long to see them again once more so bad once this is all over. |
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
View Quote I've been thinking about why they would do this. The only thing that makes sense to me is that they were caught completely unprepared again and didn't prepare defenses for the lines between Kreminna, Svatove, and Troitske. In that case, Svatove would be logistically irrelevant, very vulnerable to being cut off, and it would have little value other than temporarily keeping UA from riding on Starobilsk from that axis. On the other hand, if they pull all the way back to Starobilsk, they are fucked. Not sure what they'll do. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer
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Originally Posted By realwar: UKRAINIAN special forces take out Russian tanks in aerial bombardments over Donetsk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=popjkLSfhG8 View Quote This could be from WW1. |
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Originally Posted By stgdz: i would think the ukranians want the dem votes based on the republican voting records and past rhetoric View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeErQ9dXEAERNpY?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeErQ9dWIAcGKlk?format=jpg&name=large I wonder if Nance and his fellow libtards have figured out the folks they are fighting for have a social outlook way closer to the hated Rethuglicans than them. Lol As far as support for Ukraine goes, both parties are backing Ukraine….it’s only that THOT MTG and her grifter friends who are a problem, fortunately they will not have enough votes to change current policy and aren’t likely to ever get them. And that’s just the House, the Senate is already a lost cause for the Puffers. I can only imagine what Ukrainians think of our politics…I’m sure Biden has been working hard to convince them the GOP will switch the US over to Putin’s side if they win the Midterms, or some such other lie. |
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Musk just shit in his own punch bowl. View Quote He just blew a lot of goodwill with that nonsense. |
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: And .308. View Quote and .50. But aside from that: Be it Syria or now Ukraine - it seems to me the PK beats the FN MAG ( M 240 in US, L7A2 GPMG in UK ) in popularity. The rotating bolt lockup, locking in the barrel, means a lighter receiver, as it takes no stress, compared to the MAG´s rising bolt lock, which needs a strong receiver. So less weight, and it seems to be very reliable and sufficiently accurate. Hermann P.S.: ducking and running for cover ... |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By _disconnector_: . . . and as a general supporter of Elon I can say he deserves it. Why is it that folks that are so smart in one area think it's ok to run their stupid mouths in areas that they *aren't* experts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Elon is getting fucking roasted. LOL It's a common phenomenon too. It's like the inverse of the Gell-Mann amnesia effect Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know. |
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I think HIPPO posted this earlier, but some maps for those that dont do Twitter, these were posted 2hrs ago.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Are the Russians capable of large scale movement? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
No. Also not capable of large scale supply apparently either. |
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Originally Posted By Arminius: and .50. But aside from that: Be it Syria or now Ukraine - it seems to me the PK beats the FN MAG ( M 240 in US, L7A2 GPMG in UK ) in popularity. The rotating bolt lockup, locking in the barrel, means a lighter receiver, as it takes no stress, compared to the MAG´s rising bolt lock, which needs a strong receiver. So less weight, and it seems to be very reliable and sufficiently accurate. Hermann P.S.: ducking and running for cover ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Arminius: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: And .308. and .50. But aside from that: Be it Syria or now Ukraine - it seems to me the PK beats the FN MAG ( M 240 in US, L7A2 GPMG in UK ) in popularity. The rotating bolt lockup, locking in the barrel, means a lighter receiver, as it takes no stress, compared to the MAG´s rising bolt lock, which needs a strong receiver. So less weight, and it seems to be very reliable and sufficiently accurate. Hermann P.S.: ducking and running for cover ... The PK series is an example of good enough sometimes is preferred. |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By Mickdog13: You can disagree with his politics, but he has been over there on the ground for most, if not all of this. Nance hates him some Russians, so I guess he does have a lot in common with conservatives. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mickdog13: Originally Posted By Tiberius: I wonder if Nance and his fellow libtards have figured out the folks they are fighting for have a social outlook way closer to the hated Rethuglicans than them. Lol You can disagree with his politics, but he has been over there on the ground for most, if not all of this. Nance hates him some Russians, so I guess he does have a lot in common with conservatives. Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting “Rethuglicans “ wholesale……not having it. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: No doubt…..but woke libtards are highly dogmatic and intolerant, it was only a matter of time until they realized Ukrainians are no more interested in being what libtards want than they are of being what Russians want. I knew this would happen, but had hoped it would be when Ukraine was closer to victory than now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Tiberius: That advances the narrative…..evil Jesus Freaks are gonna make poor Ukrainians oppose gay marriage and abortion. What has triggered them is they just learned about the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which has the same viewpoints minus the Putin-Worship and crypto-fascism. Russian sympathisers will try to turn westerners against Ukranians for whatever reason they can find. Pushing wedges is what they do. It's effective and it's a good value. No doubt…..but woke libtards are highly dogmatic and intolerant, it was only a matter of time until they realized Ukrainians are no more interested in being what libtards want than they are of being what Russians want. I knew this would happen, but had hoped it would be when Ukraine was closer to victory than now. I could see that video of the...uh..."intimate moment" being interrupted by the drone becoming propaganda. "Ukrainians hate gay people, look at what they are doing to them, we must stop supporting them." |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Hohol is an ethnic slur against Ukrainians. Might also see Khohol or Gogol. I've read that it refers to the tuft of hair or something Cossacks had, and Hohol is a kind of duck. Not sure if that's true though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By Photographic: Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Another vacuous Russian woman. "I don't know, it's written in holodo" Am I understanding the slur here? A reference to Holodomer? If so, I wasn't aware my distain could reach another level but there we are... Hohol is an ethnic slur against Ukrainians. Might also see Khohol or Gogol. I've read that it refers to the tuft of hair or something Cossacks had, and Hohol is a kind of duck. Not sure if that's true though. Interestingly, Google translate translated it as "crests" when I was trolling the russian telegram bot that was taking location reports on their enemies. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:
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Hungary is becoming more of a burden to NATO than anything else. It is clear that when it comes to Russia, which is the main focus of NATO, Hungary cannot be relied upon as an ally and if there was a shortlist of NATO members warranting the boot, Hungary would be on it. One of the problems with nationalists on both sides of the pond (and there are many) is their light to with, if not fondness for, Putin's Russia. It's stupid and disgusting. |
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The finest opportunity ever given to the world was thrown away because the passion for equality made vain the hope for freedom.
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Originally Posted By Cypher15: That is very Alvin York of him. York wrote on his draft card "I do not want to fight" but ultimately followed the orders given and did what he was told. He is a legend in the US Army and the 82md Infantry Division now the 82nd Airborne. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By dillydilly: So a week or so ago I posted about my concern for mass mobilization in Ukraine as an answer to Putin's mobilization. Well I guess I wrong about what I thought regarding my cousins and their pacifism. Just got off the phone with my cousin and he said he is willing to fight(said he might get called up soon) for his homeland because laying his own life for another is the greatest honor a Christian can have. They are pacifistic overall but when push comes to shove, they know what's on the line. York wrote on his draft card "I do not want to fight" but ultimately followed the orders given and did what he was told. He is a legend in the US Army and the 82md Infantry Division now the 82nd Airborne. During the Civil War, some sects like the Mennonites and Quakers who had the dilemma of being pro-abolition and pacifist solved it by suspending the memberships of members who wanted to join the Union Army so they could do what was necessary without breaking Church laws then reinstating them when they came home after the war. |
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Are the Russians capable of large scale movement? View Quote Russians never mastered the use of the wooden pallet. They move everything by hand, so to answer your question: No. Seriously though: they move most supply by train, and the rest by truck. They are highly dependent on first rail, then paved roads. Interdict either, and Russian logistics fall apart. |
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Originally Posted By absael: 8 helicopters! That has to be a record. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKFGSVXEAId9aB?format=jpg&name=900x900 That was an interesting report from Southern command. Either a big Sam ambush or artillery smashing them on the ground perhaps. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting “Rethuglicans “ wholesale……not having it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By Mickdog13: Originally Posted By Tiberius: I wonder if Nance and his fellow libtards have figured out the folks they are fighting for have a social outlook way closer to the hated Rethuglicans than them. Lol You can disagree with his politics, but he has been over there on the ground for most, if not all of this. Nance hates him some Russians, so I guess he does have a lot in common with conservatives. Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting “Rethuglicans “ wholesale……not having it. Preach it. Without heavy arty and air support, his odds of fulfilling his wet dream diminish greatly. |
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Originally Posted By Jack67: !!!!! My favorite "under-known" thing. I push the Gell-Mann effect wherever I can. You are my new best friend. That's official. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By Third_Rail: It's a common phenomenon too. It's like the inverse of the Gell-Mann amnesia effect !!!!! My favorite "under-known" thing. I push the Gell-Mann effect wherever I can. You are my new best friend. That's official. You two better watch out for drone-dropped grenades. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting "Rethuglicans " wholesale not having it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By Mickdog13: Originally Posted By Tiberius: I wonder if Nance and his fellow libtards have figured out the folks they are fighting for have a social outlook way closer to the hated Rethuglicans than them. Lol You can disagree with his politics, but he has been over there on the ground for most, if not all of this. Nance hates him some Russians, so I guess he does have a lot in common with conservatives. Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting "Rethuglicans " wholesale not having it. When did he say that? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: Good. I'm a big fan of some of his projects and his development philosophies but he earned this. I hope he figures out how bad his proposal was rather than just being defensive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Elon is getting fucking roasted. LOL Good. I'm a big fan of some of his projects and his development philosophies but he earned this. I hope he figures out how bad his proposal was rather than just being defensive. He's South African by birth. He's used to a country giving up. |
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Originally Posted By kncook: Russian Orthodox alreadybis a separate religion from Christianity/Catholicism and split long ago. The theology has historically been rejected……on top of Kirill being a historic KGB asset placed in the church to keep and eye on them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Francisco_dAnconia: Originally Posted By Napoleon451: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeErQ9dXEAERNpY?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeErQ9dWIAcGKlk?format=jpg&name=large Russian Orthodox alreadybis a separate religion from Christianity/Catholicism and split long ago. The theology has historically been rejected……on top of Kirill being a historic KGB asset placed in the church to keep and eye on them. The Ukrainian Orthodox church and several Catholic Archbishops, as well as large numbers of Protestant sects and denominations worldwide. The reason you haven't heard about it is that the media tends to ignore religion unless it is to their self-interest to pay attention. Besides, most current reporters are as clueless about Christianity (and, for the most part, Judaism) as a pig looking at a wristwatch. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That was an interesting report from Southern command. Either a big Sam ambush or artillery smashing them on the ground perhaps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKFGSVXEAId9aB?format=jpg&name=900x900 That was an interesting report from Southern command. Either a big Sam ambush or artillery smashing them on the ground perhaps. So the discussion around the a-10 is that it could not survive this war. Would Blackhawks essentially be grounded or turned into medevacs instead of troop ferries. Well at the altitude that our pilots fly them...... |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeK6R50WACciDxj?format=jpg&name=large View Quote You're falling down on your upaid/underappreciated job |
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Originally Posted By HIPPO: My current take is that place is about to fall into Ukrainian hands. The front is rapidly collapsing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HIPPO: Originally Posted By fisterkev: Originally Posted By torstin: NBC incoming? At Svatove? Remember, that's "Russian territory" now lol My current take is that place is about to fall into Ukrainian hands. The front is rapidly collapsing. Mine too and my hope as well. Tidal wave of hurt headed their way- and it’s fast becoming the favored Russian technique. The overthinker in me can’t help but worry that they’re trying to get the AFU to overextend their lines though. The optimist says the orcs are just running, only to discover that where they’re running to is just a days battle from being overrun |
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Originally Posted By bigstick61: Hungary is becoming more of a burden to NATO than anything else. It is clear that when it comes to Russia, which is the main focus of NATO, Hungary cannot be relied upon as an ally and if there was a shortlist of NATO members warranting the boot, Hungary would be on it. One of the problems with nationalists on both sides of the pond (and there are many) is their light to with, if not fondness for, Putin's Russia. It's stupid and disgusting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Hungary is becoming more of a burden to NATO than anything else. It is clear that when it comes to Russia, which is the main focus of NATO, Hungary cannot be relied upon as an ally and if there was a shortlist of NATO members warranting the boot, Hungary would be on it. One of the problems with nationalists on both sides of the pond (and there are many) is their light to with, if not fondness for, Putin's Russia. It's stupid and disgusting. They need to formulate a new NATO charter, replacing the current accession method with, say a 2/3 majority vote to bring in a new member or amend the Charter and other reforms if needed, with current members that ratify it creating a new organization (and taking the NATO name and infrastructure with them) and those who choose not to ratify (presumably Hungary and Turkey) can inhabit the shell left behind. |
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Mentioned earlier, but here is a direct link to a brief PBS Front Line explainer, about how Russia smuggles stolen Ukrainian grain.
Turkish companies are playing dumb and taking it, probably because they are more worried about an unstable situation in the ME if they don't keep people there fed. How Russia is Smuggling Ukrainian Grain to Pay for Putin''s War | FRONTLINE + @AssociatedPress FWIW, these are similar to methods used by the Chinese to smuggle DPRK coal. Rather transparent and easy to prove, but much harder to stop because it is below the threshold that countries are willing to intervene ("what are they going to do--send an anti-ship missile and sink all of our bulk carriers"?). And the unfortunate answer most of the time is "most likely not". |
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When I see abandoned/destroyed Russian vehicles, there are always civilian clothes scattered about. I doubt they went shopping. My guess is to change into them while retreating.
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Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
WHAT!? HUH?! Found some of Oddball's paint rounds. Sherman v Tiger Kellys Heroes |
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Originally Posted By dillydilly: So a week or so ago I posted about my concern for mass mobilization in Ukraine as an answer to Putin's mobilization. Well I guess I wrong about what I thought regarding my cousins and their pacifism. Just got off the phone with my cousin and he said he is willing to fight(said he might get called up soon) for his homeland because laying his own life for another is the greatest honor a Christian can have. They are pacifistic overall but when push comes to shove, they know what's on the line. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: When did he say that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By Mickdog13: Originally Posted By Tiberius: I wonder if Nance and his fellow libtards have figured out the folks they are fighting for have a social outlook way closer to the hated Rethuglicans than them. Lol You can disagree with his politics, but he has been over there on the ground for most, if not all of this. Nance hates him some Russians, so I guess he does have a lot in common with conservatives. Oh, I respect him for that, but if he wants to spout nonsense about coming home and wasting "Rethuglicans " wholesale not having it. When did he say that? I’ll admit I’m assuming here, the “American volunteer” transcripts from Lyman a few pages back are thought by some to have been written by Nance. What I wrote only applies to him if he wrote or agrees with it. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
WHAT!? HUH?! Not likely a direct hit, or a tank round, but something hit. |
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Originally Posted By doc540: You're falling down on your upaid/underappreciated job View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeK6R50WACciDxj?format=jpg&name=large You're falling down on your upaid/underappreciated job It's hard to keep up some days. |
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