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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
View Quote As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... |
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Not sure what to do with this.
https://t.me/vorposte/21697 Commander of "Azov" Prokopenko: "Do not make heroes of deserters and fighters who voluntarily surrendered. They chose the path of shame." @vorposte View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian 80th air assault brigade two Stugna-p kills. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/utt7f9/2videocompilation_of_ukraines_80th_air_assault/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 View Quote YEST!!!! |
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Originally Posted By mbinky: As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mbinky: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
View Quote I endorse pressuring the New York Times to cede their "reporting" to the far superior New York Post. |
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Slava Ukraini! "The only real difference between the men and the boys, is the number and size, and cost of their toys."
NRA Life, GOA Life, CSSA Life, SAF Life, NRA Certified Instructor |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
View Quote Hardly surprising…..will they volunteer to choose the Ukrainians who will be abandoned to their fate and explain to them that “ The needs of the Few outweigh those of the Many, or the One”? On the positive side, if the Bluetards turn against the war the “if they’re for it I’m agin it!” crowd might be able to be coaxed back into the light. |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Prime: Not sure what to do with this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prime: Not sure what to do with this. https://t.me/vorposte/21697 Commander of "Azov" Prokopenko: "Do not make heroes of deserters and fighters who voluntarily surrendered. They chose the path of shame." @vorposte Sounds like Prokopenko and his like-minded comrades have gone on Independent Ops and plan to fight to the death. |
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Originally Posted By mbinky: As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mbinky: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... Paging Elon… found something else for you to buy. |
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“This is America damnit! I don’t think we will become like these other countries. I don’t think we can. Courage is too contagious here.” -James O’Keefe, 1/17/22
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So the patriot brings a 100km denial zone to the field.
How is the UA going to apply this in fighting? Will it allow the Ukranian airforce more time for ground attacks? |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Sounds like Prokopenko and his like-minded comrades have gone on Independent Ops and plan to fight to the death. View Quote It does, but I would guess that image is from a month ago. Maybe it’s the shave- it looks like he put weight back on. Russian Telegram is pushing that everyone’s surrendered. I guess we’ll see. |
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Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote Do the Ukrainians have fortification that would require that much penetration? 152 on delay or using CLGPs can take care of most field fortifications |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By stgdz: So the patriot brings a 100km denial zone to the field. How is the UA going to apply this in fighting? Will it allow the Ukranian airforce more time for ground attacks? View Quote Depends on how many missiles and what missiles the systems will come with and where they are deployed. Range on the older PAC GEM 2+ missiles is in the 160km or 100 mile range. and they are at least Mach 5. This would free up Ukrainian assets. You start killing any Russian aircraft that comes into Ukrainian airspace, drones, Iksander ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and you can start really taking back your airspace. Can we get a map with a 100 mile range ring in the center of Kiev for reference? |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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I would like to pressure the New York Times to fuck off permanently.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote God it’d be great for one of these assholes to eat it from a partisan while reporting, though live reporting isn’t something propaganda machines probably do a lot of… |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Depends on how many missiles and what missiles the systems will come with and where they are deployed. Range on the older PAC GEM 2+ missiles is in the 160km or 100 mile range. and they are at least Mach 5. This would free up Ukrainian assets. You start killing any Russian aircraft that comes into Ukrainian airspace, drones, Iksander ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and you can start really taking back your airspace. Can we get a map with a 100 mile range ring in the center of Kiev for reference? View Quote put one near the border and you might be able to get the heavy bombers when they're releasing their standoff weapons. |
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Originally Posted By DonKey153: put one near the border and you might be able to get the heavy bombers when they're releasing their standoff weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DonKey153: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Depends on how many missiles and what missiles the systems will come with and where they are deployed. Range on the older PAC GEM 2+ missiles is in the 160km or 100 mile range. and they are at least Mach 5. This would free up Ukrainian assets. You start killing any Russian aircraft that comes into Ukrainian airspace, drones, Iksander ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and you can start really taking back your airspace. Can we get a map with a 100 mile range ring in the center of Kiev for reference? put one near the border and you might be able to get the heavy bombers when they're releasing their standoff weapons. Yep, you get three Patriot batteries and space them out around Southern, Eastern and Northern Ukraine in safe areas and disperse the missile units miles apart and you'd have a really nice network. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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There's anti-air at work in Ukraine that nobody has talked about. I say this from watching shootdowns around Lviv and Odessa...
Then again, it may just be Starstreak and I'm not familiar enough with what it looks like to say. |
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Originally Posted By R0N: Do the Ukrainians have fortification that would require that much penetration? 152 on delay or using CLGPs can take care of most field fortifications View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By Prime:
Do the Ukrainians have fortification that would require that much penetration? 152 on delay or using CLGPs can take care of most field fortifications Define “need”. The antidote to Russian inadequacy seems to be more and bigger. |
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welp svernodesk is abosultley turbo fucked!
This Can’t Happen Or The Russians Could Win The War |
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Food for thought.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1501861242343858178?s=20&t=qLeF4Cpu2MonkGgrBVI_3w[/tweet] https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1501861242343858178?s=20&t=qLeF4Cpu2MonkGgrBVI_3w I can't Twitter too well. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Russian soldiers abandoning vehicles after artillery starts to strike.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uubh9m/russian_soldiers_running_away_from_their_vehicles/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By mbinky: As if I needed another reason to believe that the NY Time was a communist rag hell bent on destroying this country.... View Quote At least they are consistent in their falsehoods. The NYT screwed over Ukraine really badly in the 1930s, boosting Stalin and hiding the Holodomor. Here's a short read on Wikipedia about their shill reporter at the time and what he did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty#Reporting_the_1932%E2%80%931933_famine The brief bit there has been sanitized - his complicity was much more disturbing at the granular level. He visited Ukraine, saw the deaths, and decided very much to not report about them and push a different pro-Soviet line. Also: @AlmightyTallest , thanks for answering my, and others, questions on the various AD batteries and capabilities. |
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Originally Posted By stgdz: https://i.imgur.com/sCg7dqC.jpeg what 4 patriot batteries at 100 miles would look like. A Kalibr has about 1500 mile range View Quote That would be pretty sweet. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/uubkys/long_read_russian_filtration_camps_this_is_where/
[Long Read] Russian filtration camps. This is where refugees from Ukraine end up A portion of the post, More than a million Ukrainians, including 200,000 children, have already been deported to Russia since the beginning of the war. Kyiv accuses Moscow of forced deportations, Russia says it is only carrying out voluntary evacuations. However, the refugees must pass through a filtration camp. As Rossiyskaya Gazeta writes, the idea is to prevent "Ukrainian nationalists from penetrating into Russia".
The conditions in the camps are described by witnesses who have undergone filtration and managed to get out of Russia. Western media publish satellite images, and on 5 May footage captured with a hidden camera emerged. Three short videos were shown on Telegram by an advisor to the mayor of Mariupol, Petro Andriushchenko. Four days earlier, the Russian defence ministry had reported that "rescued" residents of the city had been evacuated to a camp in the village of Bezimienna - this is where the footage came from. One cold water tap The camps were set up on the grounds of a school complex in Bezimienna and a club in the village of Cossack in the Novoazovsk region on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. About 2,000 men from Mariupol have been detained there for a month. They have not been allowed to take any personal belongings, their passports have been confiscated. They leave the camp only when accompanied by soldiers, forced to work or to clear the ruins. It was them that Russia wanted to use for its victory celebrations on 9 May in Mariupol. Dressed in the uniforms of Ukrainian soldiers, they were to take part in a "prisoner of war parade". Prisoner drill reigns in the camp. In the morning and at 9 p.m., prisoners are inspected, and three times a day they receive 'lean broth'. Sanitary conditions are tragic. One man commented hotly: "the stench is overpowering", "there is one cold water tap for 350 people. It is impossible to take care of hygiene, to get to the toilet, basic needs are simply taken care of outside. Until recently, the men slept in the corridors, but only with time did the camp authorities allow them to move into the classrooms. There are mattresses on the floors and joined benches. The gymnasium has been turned into an isolation room, because one of the inmates has advanced tuberculosis - people are not given help, they are easier to isolate. As the mayor's advisor reported, in the neighbouring camp in the village of Kozackie, one of the men died because "the occupants refused to call an ambulance". |
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“This is America damnit! I don’t think we will become like these other countries. I don’t think we can. Courage is too contagious here.” -James O’Keefe, 1/17/22
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“Ship group of the Russian Federation is represented by 7 landing ships in which there is a carrier with cruise missiles”
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https://t.me/Pravda_Gerashchenko/20303 Accuracy is the politeness of kings, and on the battlefield - also minus two enemy tanks Details: well-coordinated work of the soldiers of the 24th Motorized Brigade named after King Danylo and the Rapid Response Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine. #destruction View Quote |
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“A couple of our aces are at super low altitude, working on the invaders in the combat zone.”
https://t.me/mysiagin/9356 |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Food for thought. https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1501861242343858178?s=20&t=qLeF4Cpu2MonkGgrBVI_3w I can't Twitter too well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Food for thought. https://twitter.com/Flankerchan/status/1501861242343858178?s=20&t=qLeF4Cpu2MonkGgrBVI_3w I can't Twitter too well. Good rule of thumb is to never post a link with a question mark. Always delete the ? and everything to the right. US Army deployed MIM-104 Patriot Battery to Rzeszów-Jasionka Airport Poland to protect the base. The coverage looks good. The battery can provide coverage as far as Lviv in Ukraine against target flying as low as 3000m ETA tweet still doesn't show up. |
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“There is no need to tell anything about the work of the 45th separate artillery brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine)
All details on the video. The units of the brigade work very accurately and painfully for the occupiers.” https://t.me/mysiagin/9382 |
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Originally Posted By R0N: They already have similar, although probably a little less effective capabilities. View Quote Ukraine had a large S-300 network before the war started. My understanding is that the Russians were able to destroy about 30-40% of that network in the early volley fire, and most of those were closer to Donbas. With new Patriots and an exhausted Russian ALCM/Kalibir network, they SHOULD be able to deploy these patriots close to the front, or place the patriots wherever, really, then move their other systems to the front, which could deny the Russians any sort of air projection ability which would be yet another blow to their aims. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Russians make small changes and change the name for marketing. “Da! Su-35 is all new world beater! Only slightly resemble older aircraft on outside!” The US be like “The new buy of Patriot missiles and the Super hornet are evolutionary, Congressman, and don’t need the sort of oversight that a new program would require, or a recompetition of the program.” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Better than s-400. It can have 3 types of missiles for various anti air and anti ballistic missile work. Under the hood not the same system as Gulf War 1. https://www.raytheonmissilesanddefense.com/what-we-do/counter-uas/sensors/global-patriot-solutions Russians make small changes and change the name for marketing. “Da! Su-35 is all new world beater! Only slightly resemble older aircraft on outside!” The US be like “The new buy of Patriot missiles and the Super hornet are evolutionary, Congressman, and don’t need the sort of oversight that a new program would require, or a recompetition of the program.” Like the M109A7. It's the same system as the M109A6... Except: New hull New turret New fire control New ammo handling New engine New transmission Kept the same gun, barrel, and mount. Oh and we are looking at a range enhancement that will replace those. |
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Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote The Cossack rode over the Danube The Cossack rode over the Danube, He said: "farewell, my sweetheart" You, my black horse, Lead on and march! "Wait, wait, my Cossack, your girl is crying, How can you leave her, Just think about it." Refrain: |: Maybe, maybe it would have been better not to leave, Maybe, maybe it would have been better not to love, Maybe, maybe it would have been better to not know her And now, and now is time to forget. :| She came out, covering face with hands in despair, And with a little cry: "How can you leave me, Just think about it." "Don't cover your face with your white hands, Don't rub your bright eyes, Coming from war in glory I shall meet you again" Refrain "I do not want anyone Except for only you, Take care, my sweetheart, nothing else matters." The Cossack whistled on a horse, "You must take care! If I won't die, I will return In three years' time!" Ikhav Kozak za Dunaj |
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Originally Posted By mbinky: https://i.postimg.cc/sgfFg4tt/Screen-Shot-2022-05-20-at-3-13-52-PM.png https://i.postimg.cc/pd73kbpH/FTNx-j-LWYAA8-Dso.jpg View Quote I am sort of enjoying the irony of this. As a taxpayer, I approve. |
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS Fact is stranger than fiction -Mark Twain |
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: I see you have been involved at some level in the current US Weapons Procurement process as well! It is somewhat surprising and humbling when you look at the control stations or open the maintenance panels on a new version of a weapons system system on which you had previously been an SME and realize you are absolutely ignorant regarding how to operate or maintain the "upgraded" version. View Quote I'm sorry to hear that, but not really; it's better than the Russian experience, when you open up some of their stuff and realize it looks like something made from parts sourced from a Radio Shack in 1979. |
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Originally Posted By stgdz: welp svernodesk is abosultley turbo fucked! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmvueW0Pws View Quote Love this guys channel, He explains the situation on the ground better than anyone. This last video doesnt sound good for the Ukrainians. Sure hope something happens soon in a good way but right now I dont think they have the power yet to stop this russian advance. |
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Only God will judge me.
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Hardly surprising…..will they volunteer to choose the Ukrainians who will be abandoned to their fate and explain to them that “ The needs of the Few outweigh those of the Many, or the One”? On the positive side, if the Bluetards turn against the war the “if they’re for it I’m agin it!” crowd might be able to be coaxed back into the light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Hardly surprising…..will they volunteer to choose the Ukrainians who will be abandoned to their fate and explain to them that “ The needs of the Few outweigh those of the Many, or the One”? On the positive side, if the Bluetards turn against the war the “if they’re for it I’m agin it!” crowd might be able to be coaxed back into the light. Excellent You should post here more. |
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This post was compiled with confirmation bias version 2022 and could contain glaring inaccuracies. Consult your local DHS ministry of truth if notions of patriotic optimism persist as these could be signs of a more serious condition.
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Originally Posted By sq40: Now we’re cooking with gas. The Russians better stay on the damn ground. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Dracster: "The United States will provide Ukraine with its MIM-104 Patriot anti-aircraft missile system The Washington Post reports that this is provided by the aid package adopted yesterday. MIM-104 Patriot has a high combat capability and is the main anti-missile and air system in the arsenal of the US Army." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-05-20_13-49-58_jpg-2390820.JPG Now we’re cooking with gas. The Russians better stay on the damn ground. has this been confirmed? im not finding any info saying we are actually sending patriot systems over there. It takes months to learn that system and no way we are sending 90 us soldiers with each unit to run them |
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Only God will judge me.
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Originally Posted By R0N: Do the Ukrainians have fortification that would require that much penetration? 152 on delay or using CLGPs can take care of most field fortifications View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By R0N: Originally Posted By Prime:
Do the Ukrainians have fortification that would require that much penetration? 152 on delay or using CLGPs can take care of most field fortifications I halfway expect the Russians to bring out the big German Gustav 800mm rail gun that went missing after WW2. |
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