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Posted: 8/13/2020 6:30:04 PM EDT
Nuclear Warhead Transport Truck Gets Rear Ended!


You're minding your own business, alone at home in the late afternoon when you notice the power go out. Internet and phone service is interrupted as well. Before you can react all hell breaks loose outside. It sounds like an all out war nearby.

The sounds of gunfire and explosions tapers off and you go to investigate. You find on a nearby road that some pack of lunatics has attacked a department of energy convoy.

You get close enough to find all attackers and defenders dead. The attackers have breached security around three nuclear weapons and were in the process of loading them onto their truck when the last surviving DOE guard killed them. Said last guard is still breathing but succumbs to his wounds as you arrive. DOE guard took out the last attacker with a knife.

Radios and cell phones are all jammed. And the attackers truck is loaded with what looks like a Chinese military grade frequency jamming device. The keys are in it, and it's perfectly drivable. Theoretically you could drive off with three nuclear weapons.

So what do you do?
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:31:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Leave.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:31:31 PM EDT
[#2]
I would unass the area at high speed because the cavalry would be coming in hot.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:33:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Won't happen.  The DOE uses a small army around and a small army remote to transport.  Nobody is gonna win that battle without already calling attention to themselves prior to the event.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:37:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Having visions  of being a James Bond villain, or No Country for Old Men, with nukes instead of cash.

ETA: But I’m guessing satellites and drones would spot you real fast
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:37:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:37:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Let's just say i don't want to be within a xx miles of that truck if something starts.

I can only summarize it like this... that's a bad ass mother fucker.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:38:47 PM EDT
[#7]
It's not the stuff that you see that will get you, it's the stuff you can't see.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:39:20 PM EDT
[#8]
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This right here.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:41:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Do my best to establish a perimeter, and call Bob to let him know I found a nuclear weapon.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:41:48 PM EDT
[#10]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCwlV_94kPE

You're minding your own business, alone at home in the late afternoon when you notice the power go out. Internet and phone service is interrupted as well. Before you can react all hell breaks loose outside. It sounds like an all out war nearby.

The sounds of gunfire and explosions tapers off and you go to investigate. You find on a nearby road that some pack of lunatics has attacked a department of energy convoy.

You get close enough to find all attackers and defenders dead. The attackers have breached security around three nuclear weapons and were in the process of loading them onto their truck when the last surviving DOE guard killed them. Said last guard is still breathing but succumbs to his wounds as you arrive. DOE guard took out the last attacker with a knife.

Radios and cell phones are all jammed. And the attackers truck is loaded with what looks like a Chinese military grade frequency jamming device. The keys are in it, and it's perfectly drivable. Theoretically you could drive off with three nuclear weapons.

So what do you do?
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I’m not touching that shit. When it comes to DOE vehicles I believe there is more than meets the eye.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:42:23 PM EDT
[#11]
Collect the bad guys auto's, split, post on EE, profit.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:43:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Check for military survivors, get first aid kit.  

Pretty sure there sats/drones overhead.

Would not even consider driving away with nukes...to do what?
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:45:44 PM EDT
[#13]
One more thing....

Dip, dip, potatooooo chip....

Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:47:15 PM EDT
[#14]
The DoE security couriers are the most miserable over-worked fuckers on Earth so they were probably just glad it was over.

Why a gaggle of Chinamen would come to America to steal anything nuke is hard to grasp.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:47:32 PM EDT
[#15]
for the nerds, that appears to be an Air Force minuteman warhead trailer.  They slide open the silo cover and park this trailer on top, stradling the silo.  Then they fold down the hexagonal cover, you can see the outline on the trailer.  Then they do their thing.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:47:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:47:55 PM EDT
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This.  They've got some training films out there that give you the briefest of overviews of how their transport works, but that's all they are.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:48:00 PM EDT
[#18]




The nearby guards are dead. So what? The trailers are boobytrapped, there’s probably the fist of god coming in hot airborne, satellites and drones watching you, etc.

Good luck not getting splattered across the highway by what’s headed your way.

Me? I’ll be unassing the area with extreme haste because if the chicoms aren’t dead, it’s going to turn into a real warzone fast.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:52:34 PM EDT
[#19]
I'd get the FUCK away from the truck, get on my knees, and put my hands behind my head so the drone operator knows I'm not one of the bad guys.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:53:01 PM EDT
[#20]
That convoy had to, literally, just leave the staging point no more than 5 miles before

There is no way a Peacekeeper can still remain in running condition after 5 miles

Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:56:14 PM EDT
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That convoy had to, literally, just leave the staging point no more than 5 miles before

There is no way a Peacekeeper can still remain in running condition after 5 miles

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You sir are correct that’s 10th Ave South in Great Falls, MT. Right down the road from Malmstrom AFB
ETA: it’s a Bearcat
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:56:43 PM EDT
[#22]
A DOE trailer isn’t going anywhere, and neither is anything inside.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:58:28 PM EDT
[#23]
If the things that can found about the DOE couriers are true, their cargo is not something to mess with. If somehow the escorts are dead, you can bet your ass there is a world of pain on its way to prevent the cargo from going anywhere.

The nuke train was something I wanted to do, but information about it is near impossible to find when looking for orders while deciding if I wanted to reenlist.

Heres a website for more info if you didn't know about this thing.
NNSA Courier info

Oh hey look, there is an opening for a job for this same sort of scenario if material is taken...
Courier (SRF)
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 6:58:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Call 911,  render aid, secure scene, wait for the QRF, e-mail Lima X-ray, and lament this was once a USMS mission.





18Z50.....TS+SCI=Q....it’s not just a math equation.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:00:01 PM EDT
[#25]
That would be a sticky ?? situation. I like the idea of grabbing the guns off the bad guys, along with any cash snagging a transport and rolling out...leaving the SNM behind so as to not get surfed.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:01:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Duck,  turn away,, cover ears,  open mouth?
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:02:32 PM EDT
[#27]
All the unclassified stuff I know about those things scares the hell outta me.

I'm running
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:04:50 PM EDT
[#28]
You are definitely NOT driving away in the truck.

Best to leave faster than you came up on the scene.  Even then, you will still catch some serious heat.

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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:05:55 PM EDT
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Pull out my badge, leave my pistol holstered, call 911,  render aid, secure scene, wait for the QRF, e-mail lethal X-ray, and lament this was once a USMS mission.



18Z50.....TS+SCI=Q....it’s not just a math equation.
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I’ll see your SCI and raise you a CNWDI.
The correct answer is hold up 4 fingers while trying not to get shot.


Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:18:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Dunno

What kind of screwdriver do I have with me?

#whatsinthereanyway
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:19:37 PM EDT
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"Harry, the clock on that nine foot nuclear weapon is ticking..."

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:26:42 PM EDT
[#32]
The broken down old EMT in me would want to see if I could render aid to the good guys.

Hopefully the helo or drone crew would see me trying to help, rather than perceive me as a threat to the incoming calvary.

I'll defer that question to you guys: Would trying to help get you killed?
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:31:13 PM EDT
[#33]
The DOE guys are low grade.

I'm making a run for it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:31:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Back away and watch the helicopter escort infil security forces for clean-up.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:34:04 PM EDT
[#35]
I wouldn’t run or act like a threat. I would expect to be cuffed and detained till it was all sorted out.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:38:33 PM EDT
[#36]
The drones and helicopters you don't see will get you.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:43:17 PM EDT
[#37]
I’d take a couple beltfeds, they aren’t going to miss those as much in the resulting cleanup.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:43:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Yup 10th ave south gtf.  I've run 100's of those in a former life.  

The chicom scenerio not gonna happen.   Disgruntled rancher farmer maybe.  

Either way the volume of firepower that's there plus in the helo's above pluses what's on standby with live ATG ...no worries
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:44:26 PM EDT
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+1
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:46:15 PM EDT
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Dump the trackers and not tell my wife.

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What about the helo overhead?
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:49:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:52:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Run out and hit the warheads with hammer just like in the cartoons.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:55:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Pick up a weapon and a couple of ammo belts and then wait for the cavalry to arrive.
If more bad guys show up then duke it out like an idiot with no fear of death or regard for anybody else's safety. It is all that I know and it is all that they will understand.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 7:56:36 PM EDT
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With the quickness.  If you see me running, try to keep up.

ETA - I've read somewhere that the DOE's ammo budget is quite impressive.  You don't want no smoke from those guys.
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With the quickness.  If you see me running, try to keep up.

ETA - I've read somewhere that the DOE's ammo budget is quite impressive.  You don't want no smoke from those guys.


Those boys have a very loose ROE too. Federal law and policy states attempted theft of “inherently dangerous material” warrants deadly force. Pretty sure they could articulate that fairly easily.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:00:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:08:44 PM EDT
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Let's just say i don't want to be within a xx miles of that truck if something starts.

I can only summarize it like this... that's a bad ass mother fucker.
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I would suspect collateral damage would be very low on the support teams concerns.

Yeah, eject fast.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:17:32 PM EDT
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The broken down old EMT in me would want to see if I could render aid to the good guys.

Hopefully the helo or drone crew would see me trying to help, rather than perceive me as a threat to the incoming calvary.

I'll defer that question to you guys: Would trying to help get you killed?
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Very good chance of you getting smoked.  Anything they perceive to be a threat to the cargo is probably getting shot and they can sort it out later for the paperwork.  As someone else said, their ROE are more like suggestions from what very little I know about them.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:18:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:21:14 PM EDT
[#49]
There is a sign-countersign system in place for those situations, at the point they roll up and you give the wrong sign you'd probably get wasted in that scenario.

And why are the Chinese hijacking a nuclear convoy on US soil? They have their own nukes, Make it Antifa at least. Much better story.
Link Posted: 8/13/2020 8:28:59 PM EDT
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There is a sign-countersign system in place for those situations, at the point they roll up and you give the wrong sign you'd probably get wasted in that scenario.

And why are the Chinese hijacking a nuclear convoy on US soil? They have their own nukes, Make it Antifa at least. Much better story.
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Chinese equipment, the bad guys are all wearing balaclavas.

I suppose you could hang around and start taking the masks off the bad guys. But the general consensus of this thread so far seems to be...

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