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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:47:32 PM EDT
[#1]
That's a good start.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:48:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I want to know what chip it is so if I ever get an F150 I can rip it out.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:48:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Glad they put a stop to it
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:48:45 PM EDT
[#4]
that's not a bad thing
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:48:56 PM EDT
[#5]
that shit is for pussy liberals anyway.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to know what chip it is so if I ever get an F150 I can rip it out. Call up Ford and see if they will buy the chip back from you. 
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:49:07 PM EDT
[#7]
It goes away with a tune too.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:49:52 PM EDT
[#8]
I've got an '18 F150 3.5 Eco with that feature.
I didn't care for it at first. I would have jumped at the option to get the truck without it. I'll admit that the start/stop doesn't bother me at all now though. I agree its not worth holding up delivery. 
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:51:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Now if only we could get them to get rid of the computers running the stupid touchscreens and stuff that are not necessary for driving.
Shave the chips back to the ECU and BCM and keep it there. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:52:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to know what chip it is so if I ever get an F150 I can rip it out. You know there's a button to disable it. 
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:53:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know there's a button to disable it. https://blogmedia.dealerfire.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1027/2020/11/Ford-Auto-Start-Stop-Button_o.png IIRC it only works until the next time you turn off the vehicle, next time you start it up you have to hit it again. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:54:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It goes away with a tune too. So does GMs shitty AFM 
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Posted: 8/6/2021 7:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know there's a button to disable it. https://blogmedia.dealerfire.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1027/2020/11/Ford-Auto-Start-Stop-Button_o.png You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:00:31 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So does GMs shitty AFM Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It goes away with a tune too. So does GMs shitty AFM Unfortunately the parts that frag the top end of your engine are still there. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It goes away with a tune too. My mom bought a 2021 Edge with it. Can't stand it and pushes the button before driving like it's bad for fuel. 'mom I think we can turn it off' 'i don't think so, it's fine. damn, I forgot to hit the button'
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:03:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for. x1000000000 Seems like some eco nazi idea the manufacturers were "persuaded" into by big gub ? |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:04:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted: Glad they put a stop to it I hate that feature and turn it off every time |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:05:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for. I would like to receive issues of your newsletter. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:06:38 PM EDT
[#19]
What else does the chip do? Can’t just be for Start/Stop feature.
I use the jumper wire on the back of switch trick to disable it. I hate auto start stop. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:07:26 PM EDT
[#20]
I drive my ‘21 in sport mode anyway, that disables it by default.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:10:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Wait a minute. So all this talk about not being able to produce as many vehicles because of a chip shortage and the chip is just for a start/stop feature that saves on some gas? That’s one of the dumbest things. Stop hamstringing your company with some stupid tech. Just sell some damn trucks to people. 99% of buyers probably don’t give a shit about start/stop.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:10:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What else does the chip do? Can’t just be for Start/Stop feature. I use the jumper wire on the back of switch trick to disable it. I hate auto start stop. That would be my concern. As far as I know, there isn't a dedicated chip to the auto stop/start functionality. As much as I'd love it to be an option to begin with, I just wonder how many maintenance issues this might lead in the future when you are left fixing a truck with an option that was only available during half a model year. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:13:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I hated it at first. My new truck doesn’t have it and the first time I stopped at a light I was like why the fuck is this thing still running?
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:14:02 PM EDT
[#24]
We have that on our new Honda Pilot. I was leery of it at first but we have got into the habit of disengaging as part of starting up the vehicle. If we forget it is no big deal and can be disabled at any time.
No big deal |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:16:59 PM EDT
[#25]
Almost worth trading up for a new one for that
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:20:55 PM EDT
[#26]
You can disable it with Forscan. On the Gen 13's (and I doubt the 2021/2022 are different) you can disable ASS bu\y disconnecting the black wire on the left side under the steering wheel, takes about 3sec. That will disable the trailer brake lights so plug it in if you plan to town. It doesn't effect the battery management system or anything else.
On the 2021/2022 V8 you can disable the deactivation buy disconnecting one wire on the harness attached to the the battery. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:28:31 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a good start. All puns aside, the start stop thing is one of the most annoying features I have ever seen on any vehicle. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately the parts that frag the top end of your engine are still there. Sadly this, install the elimination kit (cam, lifters). |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:32:33 PM EDT
[#29]
can I pay $50 to have mine removed?
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:33:06 PM EDT
[#30]
I drove a rental that had that - I assume this relates to the engine start/stop and red lights and whatnot. It was the most annoying thing I ever drove. Maybe others do it better but this was so jarring and noticeable that it was bothersome.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:52:03 PM EDT
[#31]
I hate that feature
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:54:06 PM EDT
[#32]
You can permanently disable it with forscan. I keep forgetting to do this to my Ranger.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 8:57:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Auto start/stop should have never been a thing. Bean counting faggots are to blame.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:01:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Auto start/stop should have never been a thing. Bean counting faggots are to blame. No. That would be our precious government. Without whom we would not be forging the future by fining companies for producing cars and engines people wanted. Bean counters just make sure its using the shittiest cheapest parts they can source that will do the job and not cost too much in lawsuits and recalls. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:09:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Glad they stopped something that should never have been started.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:10:55 PM EDT
[#36]
I got used to it in my Ecoboost but it seems so utterly fucking pointless I still cant wrap my head around why it exists. Saving a gallon of gas over 5 years?
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:13:09 PM EDT
[#37]
I turned mine off immediately using FORSCAN.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:18:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It goes away with a tune too. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:24:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC it only works until the next time you turn off the vehicle, next time you start it up you have to hit it again. exactly - every fricking time.. other brands it remembers... not ford |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 9:51:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know there's a button to disable it. https://blogmedia.dealerfire.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1027/2020/11/Ford-Auto-Start-Stop-Button_o.png You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for.  Attached FileCost me a hundred bucks for the permanent bypass.. 
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:16:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. That would be our precious government. Without whom we would not be forging the future by fining companies for producing cars and engines people wanted. Bean counters just make sure its using the shittiest cheapest parts they can source that will do the job and not cost too much in lawsuits and recalls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Auto start/stop should have never been a thing. Bean counting faggots are to blame. No. That would be our precious government. Without whom we would not be forging the future by fining companies for producing cars and engines people wanted. Bean counters just make sure its using the shittiest cheapest parts they can source that will do the job and not cost too much in lawsuits and recalls. There is financial incentive from the gov for manufacturers to have non-defeatable, defeatable (resets every time the car is turned off), or omitted altogether. Bean counters chose the middle ground in many models. It’s bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:20:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was financial incentive from the gov for manufacturers to have non-defeatable, defeatbale (resets every time the car is turned off), or omitted altogether. Bean counters chose the middle ground in many models. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Auto start/stop should have never been a thing. Bean counting faggots are to blame. No. That would be our precious government. Without whom we would not be forging the future by fining companies for producing cars and engines people wanted. Bean counters just make sure its using the shittiest cheapest parts they can source that will do the job and not cost too much in lawsuits and recalls. There was financial incentive from the gov for manufacturers to have non-defeatable, defeatbale (resets every time the car is turned off), or omitted altogether. Bean counters chose the middle ground in many models. I always figured it was a CAFE thing. And that Ford will get hosed by govt for shipping units without it. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:25:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a good start.  |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:26:15 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait a minute. So all this talk about not being able to produce as many vehicles because of a chip shortage and the chip is just for a start/stop feature that saves on some gas? That’s one of the dumbest things. Stop hamstringing your company with some stupid tech. Just sell some damn trucks to people. 99% of buyers probably don’t give a shit about start/stop. No, there's 1,400 plus chips in a newer vehicle doing a bunch of different things. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:28:33 PM EDT
[#45]
It's the only way the big three can meet their CAFE standards (fuel economy) since they have so many gas guzzlers in their line up. CAFE is based on fleet average. I have a 17' Lexus and it's not equipped with that bullshit.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:44:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Just perform this simple procedure..
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:44:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Are we still going to save the planet now?
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:50:57 PM EDT
[#48]
You guys with Fords can disable the start/stop forever with a free program called Forscan. It's handy as hell if you ever have to diagnose a problem and there are all kinds of " easter eggs/changes " that you can program into your vehicle.
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:51:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't have to press a damn button every time you start the truck to disable something nobody asked for. Thank you! Exactly my thoughts. |
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Posted: 8/6/2021 10:53:46 PM EDT
[#50]
We have a 2019 Grand Cherokee and I like the stop/start. Barely notice it at all. In my last job I drove a Subaru Forester and it was very noticeable and annoying, shaking the vehicle when the engine shut off.
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