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Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:01:38 AM EDT
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Gateway drug

Good luck with your little reefer addict
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:03:21 AM EDT
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Why, are you a cop? Is the notion that everyone is treated the same under the law, foreign to you?
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:06:53 AM EDT
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Seems like cops would not appreciate this thread. Seems ike a stupid fucking thing to post.
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It's legal to allow your child to drink alcohol under supervision in many states

The "he's drunk" part may be a bit over the line, but it's none of my business.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:07:14 AM EDT
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My older brother got me drunk (my first) the night before 9th grade. Parents came home and bitched him out, then they all had laughs at my expense. I wound up missing first day of school, lol.



It's OK op, I dont think your ideas a bad plan for the short term.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:09:06 AM EDT
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4 beers and drunk dont normally go together but hes 16.

I Intend to teach my kids in similar ways.

I was not taught. By the time I got to college it was a shitshow. I will try to avoid this with my kids.
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Depending on the beer and timeline. 4 IPA's in a few hours and I'm drunk, for sure.

My Mom used to buy me beer when I was in high school. She preferred I drink at home so she knew what I was up to.

I drank in high school, but I was semi-responsible. I NEVER touched a sip of alcohol and drove.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:09:15 AM EDT
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I mean it was bound to happen but I will give you the cautionary tale of being the "cool parents" who let teens drink.

When I was 18 most of my friends were still seniors in HS and one girl had "the cool mom" who let her have these insane partys at their house and even stocked the fridge. She was always hanging out and everyone loved her and she loved the attention, and smoked weed with the teens and so forth. Almost everyone had to lie about where they were going because no ones parents wanted them near that house.

Well she had a daughter who she let party and have fun with all her friends, but I don't know why she was so naive that she thought this girl was a virgin but she did. She even let this girl go visit her college aged BF at Penn State for a week.

Well her daughter being the whore she was, got knocked up and found out while she was at Penn State with the BF. Her mom was deviated, how could her angel be knocked up, I mean she was fine with everyone elses kids getting laid at her house party's but not her own kid.

So fast forward now like 10 years and I'll paint a picture of the daughter.

She lost custody of the kid to her parents, after she repeatedly locked the INFANT alone in the bathroom during her apartment partys, and the BF wanted nothing to do with being a teenage father and signed away his rights and besides making his child support payments, has gone out of his way to block her from any communication. The daughter has to pay child support to her parents, and when they moved to FL she tagged along for some reason.

She has been homeless more then any one person I have ever seen. She crys all over facebook about how horrible "XYZ" is after finally finding a place to live, and is usually evicted in 2-3 months and the cycle repeats.

She dropped out of HS her senior year, with her moms permission and got her "just as good GED" and she has only worked as a tanning salon attendant and a barista, and she has been in and out of work almost as much as she's homeless.

She constantly complains about not being allowed to see her kid, but she also won't lift a finger to pay what she owes, instead using the money to fund countless tattoo's even when shes complaining about being broke or being homeless. She's in and out of the mental ward for posting suicide threats on FB.

She is currently being evicted from an illegal warehouse she was living in, for not paying rent and is so broke she announced to everyone on FB that she was now on "Only Fans".

Don't be the cool parent OP. It never works out.
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That’s an example of the wrong way of parenting.  Being the friend and not the parent never works out.  

I think what OP did as he described it is ok.  I take it was more of a teaching moment and not “hey son come get hammered with your old man.”
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:11:21 AM EDT
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I'm surprised he waited until 16.
I'd say 14 is the usual aged when teens begin experimenting.

Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:11:41 AM EDT
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This has to be performance art.



Why, are you a cop? Is the notion that everyone is treated the same under the law, foreign to you?


Oh, for fucks sake......

Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:18:24 AM EDT
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do you have anything not retarded to say?
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Oh shit! Thats like, all the guns!!!


do you have anything not retarded to say?


LOL. The Fun Police be here.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:20:40 AM EDT
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OP, best thing you can do is get some beers or a couple shots into him, then open up pornhub on a tablet and send him to his room.

When he realizes things aren't going to plan, he won't drink too much in the future.  

Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:22:31 AM EDT
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Seems like cops would not appreciate this thread. Seems ike a stupid fucking thing to post.

Oh no!

Quick! Everybody run!  Its the cops!


Somebody call for me?

Because I couldn’t give a damn.

Parents should be allowed to educate their children.

You teach a 16 yr old to drive by putting them behind the wheel for the first time too...
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:22:44 AM EDT
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Uncle taught my 2 cousins how to slam heroin when they were ~13/16. They turned out great! just fkn with ya op ;)
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:24:27 AM EDT
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That’s how I got drunk the first time.

I was 14.  It was the early 1970s & my parents had a Christmas party.  My dad was bartender & I was helping him.  Since it was a party with many drink requests, I was soon making drinks.  Then my dad suggested I “taste” them to make sure they’re right....then I was invited to bring a drink & sit with the men.

It’s so hard to believe we didn’t wear helmets, seat belts, etc. yet we survived

OP—you done fine.  Your son will be fine.  Just keep open comms with him.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:26:04 AM EDT
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Officer discretion is one of the first things I complained about on here. Rules are rules. When its not about the rule, then it becomes about authority, instead of enforcing the law. Officer discretion leads to "I don't like this guy, going to give him a tick." and "I like this guy, he's getting a warning." Based mostly on feels. If a rule isn't worth enforcing fully every time its seen, it should be done away with. How is it fair and just to let one guy off and write a citation to the next? Aren't we supposed to be treated equally under the law?

Back in the day I used to be a QC inspector. If I wrote up one guy and let another guy off because of my personal feels, I'd get fired. Or if I just said "I dont like that rule/regulation, I think I'm just not going to enforce it." Sorry your job paid by the taxpayers is to enforce the law. Not pick which rules you think should be enforced in your little version of America. Do your job.
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It's how I was raised.  Disclosed when I was hired by both agencies I worked for.  No issues.  How does discretion work?


Officer discretion is one of the first things I complained about on here. Rules are rules. When its not about the rule, then it becomes about authority, instead of enforcing the law. Officer discretion leads to "I don't like this guy, going to give him a tick." and "I like this guy, he's getting a warning." Based mostly on feels. If a rule isn't worth enforcing fully every time its seen, it should be done away with. How is it fair and just to let one guy off and write a citation to the next? Aren't we supposed to be treated equally under the law?

Back in the day I used to be a QC inspector. If I wrote up one guy and let another guy off because of my personal feels, I'd get fired. Or if I just said "I dont like that rule/regulation, I think I'm just not going to enforce it." Sorry your job paid by the taxpayers is to enforce the law. Not pick which rules you think should be enforced in your little version of America. Do your job.



The world is not black and white.   If you try to make it that way, odds are you’re gonna have a bad time.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:26:49 AM EDT
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When I was elementary school age, if my Dad was drinking a beer and I asked for a sip he’d let me have one.  It tasted like crap (Dad was a good man but had shitty taste in beer.  And added salt.) and that would be the end of it for a while. At Christmas time he’d let me have a 7 and 7 on Christmas Eve (Just enough Seagrams to give it a brown tinge).  I never really got into alcohol. Still don’t drink that much. When I do it’s usually one or two drinks. Only been drunk twice in my life and absolutely hated it.

Contrast that with my friends who got in trouble for even looking towards a beer or booze. Turned out to be the biggest drunks once they hit teen years. Nothing wrong with letting your kid try it at home under supervision.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:28:51 AM EDT
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+1

I think I was 14 when mom let me have more than a sip of Blackberry Julip.  I got shitfaced and fell off the stool I was sitting on.  After that, I had no desire to get shitfaced again.

It's a good move OP.


CMOS
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:29:20 AM EDT
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Fuck all the nannies in this thread Jesus.  The law hardly has any saying on morality, if the man wants to let his kid have a few beers at home with them it’s nobody else’s business, definitely not the states.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:33:25 AM EDT
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My son is 16. Never had a sip of alcohol before tonight never had an interest in it. Straight A student and very active in football and Ag. Since the corona shutdown he has worked out five hours a day on his own.

We had some friends over tonight and he wanted to drink so we let him. He only had four beers but he is shitfaced and it is quite hilarious. I figured he was going to do this eventually one way or another and I am glad he is at home.

Maybe I am a bad parent maybe I am not. I would much rather him do it here than somewhere else.
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First, drunks are never funny so I don’t see how it could be hilarious…

Second, “I figured he was going to do this eventually one way or another and I am glad he is at home.”

Are you gonna do the same thing for smoking dope?

Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:33:32 AM EDT
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I think you can draw parallels with teaching children to be responsible with alcohol, with teaching them to be safe and reponsibile with firearms.  Kids are attracted to things that are mysterious, cool, forbidden, etc.  If you make something "no big deal" and teach responsibility and safety, you will likely see a better outcome than letting them figure it out on their own later.   Kids are all different though, so you have to tailor it to fit the person.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:34:39 AM EDT
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In?
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:35:19 AM EDT
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Hahah like these lame asses never went to highschool paties after the friday night football game. Christ that was every weekend where I grew up.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:35:53 AM EDT
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Indeed!  Growing up, we would always have a sip of Mom or Dads beer.    
In fact, the legal drinking age when I grew up was 18.

Despite being a three sport athlete - I got hammered when I was 16, OP.  It didn't make me a bad kid.  I was just curious and having fun.  

But after a late night of barfing, my Dad got me up at 6:00am - telling me that if I could drink like a man, I could get up and work like a man.  He didn't make it easy on me.  But I learned a valuable lesson.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:41:17 AM EDT
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Better to let him get a feel for it where you can watch it, rather than him getting curious at some stranger's house and slamming a bunch of Claws to the point where he can't walk or something like that.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:42:26 AM EDT
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A controlled and supervised place for a 16 y/o to find out what 4 beers does to him sounds like a better place than a random persons house 20 miles from home on prom night.
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The world is not black and white.   If you try to make it that way, odds are you’re gonna have a bad time.
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The world is not black and white.   If you try to make it that way, odds are you’re gonna have a bad time.


IMO the job of a LEO is to enforce the law as written, not try and make the world a better place as they see fit through selective enforcement of rules according to their whims.

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As near as I can tell, what the OP did (or at least chose to share) isn't illegal. You can calm down, now.


My comments were not directed at the OP, but to the person I was quoting. My post had little to do with alcohol, and entirely to do with his comment about officer discretion. Yes, that concept does trigger me.

And no, I won't calm down
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:44:01 AM EDT
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When my kid becomes 16 I am getting him his first Thai hooker.... LOL
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:44:17 AM EDT
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My dad gave me a beer when I was a toddler and they said I turned green.

Only resulted in minor brain  damage.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:45:22 AM EDT
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Good on you OP. My dad did the same thing with me when I was about 17 and then my little brother at the same age.

He wanted us to figure out what a bunch of beers did before we were drinking somewhere other than the back porch.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:45:28 AM EDT
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In before a Child Protective Services, the local police, the state police, and BATFE arrive, arrest you and charge you with felony child endangerment, take your son and place him in a foster home in the inner city, seize your home under civil asset forfeiture, red flag you, and shoot your dog.

Put another way, why on earth did you think it appropriate to admit to a crime involving your son in an online forum?
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:48:50 AM EDT
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ARFCOM needs a fucking Karen badge.

OP, you did fine. Now that he has felt what it's like, use it as a good time to explain to him how dangerous drunk driving is and not to do it or be in a vehicle with someone doing it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:49:17 AM EDT
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Gateway drug

Good luck with your little reefer addict
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Drinking at age 16 won't affect his GAT3 pump density.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:49:21 AM EDT
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Just came in here to post a picture of your face?!?

Talk about killing a buzz...
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:50:02 AM EDT
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Ask him tondance.  Record video.  When he sobers up show him the video and tell him it goes on aocial media if you ever catch him drunk again.

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IMO the job of a LEO is to enforce the law as written, not try and make the world a better place as they see fit through selective enforcement of rules according to their whims.



My comments were not directed at the OP, but to the person I was quoting. My post had little to do with alcohol, and entirely to do with his comment about officer discretion. Yes, that concept does trigger me.

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Speeding tickets for 1mph over coming right up.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:51:27 AM EDT
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OP is pretty cool.  Don't let the Karens in here run you down.
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In before a Child Protective Services, the local police, the state police, and BATFE arrive, arrest you and charge you with felony child endangerment, take your son and place him in a foster home in the inner city, seize your home under civil asset forfeiture, red flag you, and shoot your dog.

Put another way, why on earth did you think it appropriate to admit to a crime involving your son in an online forum?
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In before a Child Protective Services, the local police, the state police, and BATFE arrive, arrest you and charge you with felony child endangerment, take your son and place him in a foster home in the inner city, seize your home under civil asset forfeiture, red flag you, and shoot your dog.

Put another way, why on earth did you think it appropriate to admit to a crime involving your son in an online forum?


Why do you think it's appropriate to admit to not being able to fucking read on an online forum?
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:53:26 AM EDT
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IMO the job of a LEO is to enforce the law as written, not try and make the world a better place as they see fit through selective enforcement of rules according to their whims.



My comments were not directed at the OP, but to the person I was quoting. My post had little to do with alcohol, and entirely to do with his comment about officer discretion. Yes, that concept does trigger me.

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Enforce the law as written, eh?

Well, that’s fucking bullshit. They are to protect the Constitution above all things. By your logic ANY law should be enforced. Just because a tyrannical legislative passes a bad law doesn’t mean it should be enforced. That puts it squarely in the “just following orders” realm.

Your two dimensional thinking is sick, but not surprising based on your posting history of continuously defending the glorious state and its petty enforcers.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:55:58 AM EDT
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I don’t see an issue with the OP but I would caution that there is a fine line between doing that and becoming the parent who is more a cool friend than a parent.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 9:58:09 AM EDT
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You did right.

Don’t feel bad, I started at 11. Turned out ok enough.
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First, drunks are never funny so I don’t see how it could be hilarious…

Second, “I figured he was going to do this eventually one way or another and I am glad he is at home.”

Are you gonna do the same thing for smoking dope?

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Oh Karen.....
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This.
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Somebody grab the tap!
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 10:10:10 AM EDT
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Well Karen, it's legal just about everywhere. So, they probably don't give a shit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 10:10:40 AM EDT
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I was probably 14 or 15 when my Dad would give me a beer if I worked all day in the yard with him.   It was never really a problem, and never became one.  Half a dozen a year then, and half a dozen a year now.
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 10:11:56 AM EDT
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I don’t view beer as being bad , I make it . No mystery at my house about it. Anytime my kids want to try what I have I go ahead and let them try it.
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I think you can draw parallels with teaching children to be responsible with alcohol, with teaching them to be safe and reponsibile with firearms.  Kids are attracted to things that are mysterious, cool, forbidden, etc.  If you make something "no big deal" and teach responsibility and safety, you will likely see a better outcome than letting them figure it out on their own later.   Kids are all different though, so you have to tailor it to fit the person.
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This.

My parents had booze around the house and when I was younger, they'd hand me different types of alcohol to try. If I wanted a drink, I could have a drink. Much like the firearms around the house, it taught me responsibility. To this day, I've never been completely $hitfaced drunk. I've had two different women try to get me that way. They failed.

Fast forward to my kid. I did the same thing. Suggested he try this or that. He found out what he likes and doesn't like. As far as I know, he's never been completely hammered either. He's paranoid about driving after drinking (rightly so!) and so he just doesn't.

We did the same thing with desserts. We always had some sitting around and he could have them whenever he wanted. We didn't force him to eat his veggies first. As a result, desserts just became another food item and he ended up with a very healthy diet. He's become somewhat of a foodie after watching/listening to the Food Network in the background for a number of years.

It's good to let your kids try such legal things in a controlled environment. That way, there's no mystery, no thinking they're getting away with something, and they learn how alcohol affects their particular faculties. It also helps them to know when to stop drinking if they're out at a party.
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Drinking at age 16 won't affect his GAT3 pump density.
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Good luck with your little reefer addict


Drinking at age 16 won't affect his GAT3 pump density.


yeah but what about the heroin tomorrow?
Link Posted: 5/24/2020 10:28:28 AM EDT
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My parents raised us in a very sheltered life, everything was taboo and only the most despicable people drank alcohol.  I attribute this upbringing to why me and my brothers are such big drinkers and during my younger years I was off the rails drinking.
Years later I found out my parents were hypocrites and used to drink

My wife and I raised our kids the way we felt best.  We never hid drinking from them, when we had parties the other parents brought their kids, none of us tried to hide anything from our kids.  Once my own kids got around 12-13 we would let them try some wine at holidays and as they reached later teen years we would let them have a drink at home if they wanted .  We never made it taboo and now they are in their 20's and don't really drink much but their friends who were raised in strict homes are raging alcoholics.  Some of their friends dropped out of college cause they couldn't handle drinking.
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