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Posted: 11/20/2018 1:30:31 AM EDT
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Doesn't surprise me, saw the same thing at work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I noticed that we havent had paper towels anywhere for the last 3 weeks or better. Capt. came by to do a check and asked if I needed anything. I told him I could really use some paper towels. His response "woah....thats asking for to much around this place. The compound has been out for a month and we wont see paper towels till first week of November". WHAT.THE.FUCK? Paper fucking towels......A brother cant even get paper towels. It blows me away how cheap corrections is. I remember my first day in Corrections. I was shown my wing, shown my equipment and keys, and was told not to bother the Sergeant or other Officers or ask questions unless it was life or death. That was 12 years ago. I'm a Sergeant now. Hard to believe it's been that long. |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 9:27:14 PM EDT
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Inmate workers steal all the ones they can get there hands on and sell them as their hustle. Dissolve your K2 or other drugs in water then soak the paper towel in it then dry it out. Becomes an easy way to smoke and get high. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Inmate workers steal all the ones they can get there hands on and sell them as their hustle. Dissolve your K2 or other drugs in water then soak the paper towel in it then dry it out. Becomes an easy way to smoke and get high. Quoted:
I remember my first day in Corrections. I was shown my wing, shown my equipment and keys, and was told not to bother the Sergeant or other Officers or ask questions unless it was life or death. |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 9:28:44 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 11/28/2018 10:08:05 AM EDT
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Update #4 in OP
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Posted: 11/28/2018 5:21:27 PM EDT
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UPDATE #4 Yeah, pretty much hate my life right now. Since the last update I've been in the same cottage dorm. 37 inmates and me. I've learned that when you work a holiday you dont get time and a half. You get "special Comp time". But here is the funny thing. You can buld up special comp time throughout the year and it will eventually get paid out to you at some unknown time frame. But if you have to call in sick for what ever reason, your "special comp" time is the first thing they burn, not your PTO or sick leave. The shit that they might actually have to pay you for. And apparently a few years ago, if you didnt use it you lost it. Had to be involved in my first use of force a couple weeks ago. And rather than "Thank you T.E.A. Bronze for saving that inmates life". It was "why the fuck were you involved in a use of force?", My response...."Well Sir....after the CERTIFIED officer gassed them, they did not stop fighting each other. And given the fact that one inmate was trying to chew the other inmates arm off, I chose to react rather than sit and watch". Apparently this was the wrong answer and put me on the white shirt shit list. FDOC is a fucking joke. With all the shit I have dealt with from other staff members, pure lack of anything resembling common sense....I'll stick it out through the academy that is at some undetermined time to get my state certification and move to county. FDOC wonders why they cant keep people.....they need to look at themselves. That didn't take long. 
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Posted: 11/28/2018 6:46:49 PM EDT
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That didn't take long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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UPDATE #4 Yeah, pretty much hate my life right now. Since the last update I've been in the same cottage dorm. 37 inmates and me. I've learned that when you work a holiday you dont get time and a half. You get "special Comp time". But here is the funny thing. You can buld up special comp time throughout the year and it will eventually get paid out to you at some unknown time frame. But if you have to call in sick for what ever reason, your "special comp" time is the first thing they burn, not your PTO or sick leave. The shit that they might actually have to pay you for. And apparently a few years ago, if you didnt use it you lost it. Had to be involved in my first use of force a couple weeks ago. And rather than "Thank you T.E.A. Bronze for saving that inmates life". It was "why the fuck were you involved in a use of force?", My response...."Well Sir....after the CERTIFIED officer gassed them, they did not stop fighting each other. And given the fact that one inmate was trying to chew the other inmates arm off, I chose to react rather than sit and watch". Apparently this was the wrong answer and put me on the white shirt shit list. FDOC is a fucking joke. With all the shit I have dealt with from other staff members, pure lack of anything resembling common sense....I'll stick it out through the academy that is at some undetermined time to get my state certification and move to county. FDOC wonders why they cant keep people.....they need to look at themselves. That didn't take long. As I stated earlier, a large portion of my monthly pension is via my DOC years. Same issues back then as today. Low pay, mediocre benefits and bad working conditions = high turnover and poor performance/results. Shocking news, I know..... |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 8:36:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That didn't take long. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:20:16 PM EDT
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Hats off to you for sticking to it.
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Posted: 2/26/2019 9:40:29 PM EDT
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#6 in OP and I think I need psychological help
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Posted: 3/12/2019 7:52:12 PM EDT
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I'm about a week and a half away from graduating from the academy and am basically in the same boat as Bronze, just a little newer. Haven't had to work a post yet, just had one day of OTJ where me and two others shadowed a FTO while he gave is a tour of the prison. One of our group was a 18 year old female who got some attention, me and the other guy just got stares. Not going to let it bother me.
Going to do my best and hope my training, instincts and fellow COs can help me become a good CO. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 6:52:45 PM EDT
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I'm about a week and a half away from graduating from the academy and am basically in the same boat as Bronze, just a little newer. Haven't had to work a post yet, just had one day of OTJ where me and two others shadowed a FTO while he gave is a tour of the prison. One of our group was a 18 year old female who got some attention, me and the other guy just got stares. Not going to let it bother me. Going to do my best and hope my training, instincts and fellow COs can help me become a good CO. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 7:07:00 PM EDT
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Update # 7 in OP....."the thinning of the heard."
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Posted: 3/13/2019 7:14:58 PM EDT
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I'm about a week and a half away from graduating from the academy and am basically in the same boat as Bronze, just a little newer. Haven't had to work a post yet, just had one day of OTJ where me and two others shadowed a FTO while he gave is a tour of the prison. One of our group was a 18 year old female who got some attention, me and the other guy just got stares. Not going to let it bother me. Going to do my best and hope my training, instincts and fellow COs can help me become a good CO. 
Somewhere in the Midwest. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 7:50:05 PM EDT
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Just found this thread. Interesting.
Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:09:35 PM EDT
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NOT a CO but have been through the academy. The stuff yall are listing is universal. State DOC is the bastard child of any state and the ratio of good/qualified officers to bad is always not good.
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:33:25 PM EDT
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I'm actually looking forward to graduating and actually starting the job. From what the instructors have told us, about half will leave corrections in less than a year. I don't plan on being one of them.
I've spent too many years working warehouse jobs because I was good at it and because it was easy. Now I'm in my 40's and need to find a career. |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:34:35 PM EDT
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Just found this thread. Interesting. Thanks. It's fun to watch the new officers come in all gung-ho and pressed and then slowly watch as they come to the sad realization they had no idea what the job was going to be like... The disillusionment is palpable... and delicious. I've been in it 28.5 years... It's been good to me, but I'll gladly retire when the time comes |
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:50:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:50:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I found the OP amusing... It's fun to watch the new officers come in all gung-ho and pressed and then slowly watch as they come to the sad realization they had no idea what the job was going to be like... The disillusionment is palpable... and delicious. I've been in it 28.5 years... It's been good to me, but I'll gladly retire when the time comes |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 1:29:40 AM EDT
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Why did you choose DOC instead of regular LE?
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Posted: 3/16/2019 5:45:58 PM EDT
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Why did you choose DOC instead of regular LE? I moved to Florida and because I have a visible tattoo above my collar bone (a pick and shovel tattoo behind my left ear because I was a gold miner for a lot of years), DQ'ed me automatically.from pretty much everything except corrections and county jails. Here is the "rub" though. County jails wont hire you until you have been certified by the state and they dont want to pay to put you through the school. DOC will put you through it but if you leave within the first 2 years of employment you have to pay the state back the $2500. Some counties will pay that fee back if you transfer to them though. I've been looking into it a little bit. |
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Posted: 3/16/2019 6:37:09 PM EDT
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Good reason not to have visible tattoos if one wants to have as many options as possible when trying to get into LE.
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Posted: 3/16/2019 9:24:36 PM EDT
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IF you really want to do the job, and you think that tat is a major stumbling block... what do you want more?
On another note, did I read you just did 100 hours of defensive tactics? 
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Posted: 3/17/2019 1:02:55 PM EDT
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On another note, did I read you just did 100 hours of defensive tactics? Intro to corrections. 32 hours Communications. 40 hours Officer Safety. 16 hours Facility and equipment. 8 hours Intake and release. 18 hours Supervising correctional facility. 40 hours Supervising special populations. 20 hours Responding to incidents and emergencies. 16 hours First aid. 50 hours Officer wellness. 30 hours |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 1:56:37 AM EDT
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interesting that they also gave you 100 on firearms, doesn't sound like you start out in a tower.
In my police academy in the Dark Ages, we got 40 of each. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 8:09:17 AM EDT
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Good Luck!
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Posted: 3/21/2019 7:03:22 PM EDT
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interesting that they also gave you 100 on firearms, doesn't sound like you start out in a tower. In my police academy in the Dark Ages, we got 40 of each. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 7:03:39 PM EDT
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Good Luck! |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 10:55:06 PM EDT
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Update #8 in OP........
Firearms and the realization that trying to be the best hurts you rather than helps you. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 5:19:55 PM EDT
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Update #8 in OP........ Firearms and the realization that trying to be the best hurts you rather than helps you. Like I said before, get that certificate and start applying to counties. It will be worth the financial cost. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 5:40:17 PM EDT
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Weird, I did 6 years in AZ in the 90's and they trained em first back then.
It was a fine job at the time. Saw a few riots, few murders, lots of shivs and prison brew, got thrown on a couple of times. I did a lot of shifts in the yard tower where I held my first AR, IIRC it was a Match Target 20 incher with a 3x9 on the carry handle. Almost shot a few inmates during disturbances but the sting ball grenades usually ended things. I am glad I never had to fire it, it was shared amongst different employees and the reticle dials were not marked. I'm sure some dumbasses fucked around with it as every qualification required adjusting the reticle. It was a real shitshow with guns there. Handgun was a Ruger GP100, they moved to Glocks when I left. My dad did a few years between trucking jobs at the same prison, had his ass handed to him in a disturbance. In a real weird twist of fate one of the two inmates that beat him up was found murdered in his cell a few months later. I saw plenty of employees there that should not have been, and to this day absolutely believe there should be zero female officers on a male yard, and any females (teachers, librarians, etc) should require an escort. They are the easiest to corrupt. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 6:34:26 PM EDT
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What's funny and never ceases to amaze me is the 6ft 200lb know it all kid who freezes on the stairs headed to a fight only to be passed by the 5 ft 90lb 50yr old veteran woman officer.
I'll take someone with "heart" any day. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 7:51:32 PM EDT
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What's funny and never ceases to amaze me is the 6ft 200lb know it all kid who freezes on the stairs headed to a fight only to be passed by the 5 ft 90lb 50yr old veteran woman officer. I'll take someone with "heart" any day. |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 11:52:52 AM EDT
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Thank you for taking on the job Bronze. Im heading to the le academy soon, vying for a job with the county sheriff. They make all new hires work their first year in the county jail and it has me scared shitless
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Posted: 4/12/2019 2:41:33 AM EDT
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Thank you for taking on the job Bronze. Im heading to the le academy soon, vying for a job with the county sheriff. They make all new hires work their first year in the county jail and it has me scared shitless |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:33:53 PM EDT
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Thank you for taking on the job Bronze. Im heading to the le academy soon, vying for a job with the county sheriff. They make all new hires work their first year in the county jail and it has me scared shitless |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:59:33 PM EDT
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having worked prison, jail, and patrol I will say prison is by far the safest IMO.
think of the positives, if you let yourself become overwhelmed with the negatives it's going to be a short career. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 3:37:57 PM EDT
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lots of good advice in this thread.
i served 5 years on active duty as an MP and went into state corrections when i got out. i have been a CO for 4 and a half years and your experiences pretty much mirror mine. im huge into firearms and have been my whole life i shoot at least twice a month and would consider myself above average but not john wick or anything. one of our firearms instructors was morbidly obese and basically told me i dont know shit the first day when he asked if anyone had any experience. i kept my mouth shut and went along with the program, i ended up qualifying top shooter and received an award for it. my state is in the same boat as FL... anyone with a heartbeat and a decent criminal background will get hired and unless they mess up real bad they will make trial service (1 year) at which point they literally have to commit a crime to get fired. other staff are more of a problem to deal with than any inmates i have ever supervised. its not a bad job but i have no job satisfaction im not helping anyone, im not even making a useful product. within the next year or two i plan on getting out of corrections and going to work for a city or county PD. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 3:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the ones that I've talked to, they all sound like you. They love the job, but it does suck a little bit of your soul away. They told us about how the profession is high on the list for suicides, drug/alcohol addiction, divorce and a high turn over rate. They've warned about what we'll see and encounter. I'm not looking forward to it, but am bracing my self for what will come the best that I can. Thank you for all the years that you put in. Those fuckers wouldn't be happy working in a lollypop factory being paid in blowjobs... As far as the divorce and suicide thing... Might sound harsh, but IMHO it's the weak and mal adjusted that blame their job for all their problems and failures... I've been married 25 years and haven't killed myself once..! |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 12:44:04 AM EDT
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it'll be the best thing you ever did before hitting patrol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you for taking on the job Bronze. Im heading to the le academy soon, vying for a job with the county sheriff. They make all new hires work their first year in the county jail and it has me scared shitless Just saying. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 3:02:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deputies get it, Police don't and it shows. Just saying. It's not just tactics and learning to comport yourself around dangerous people with nothing but your hands. You get a phone book of all the local turds. You listen and work it correctly, you get intel on where the stolen stuff goes, who really is moving weight, details on cold cases... I was never failed to be surprised at what a hardened tush hog would give up in return for boiling water for his cuppasoup... Also, they remember you when they get out. That might be good or bad depending on how you did your job... |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 6:59:56 AM EDT
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And, It's not just tactics and learning to comport yourself around dangerous people with nothing but your hands. You get a phone book of all the local turds. You listen and work it correctly, you get intel on where the stolen stuff goes, who really is moving weight, details on cold cases... I was never failed to be surprised at what a hardened tush hog would give up in return for boiling water for his cuppasoup... Also, they remember you when they get out. That might be good or bad depending on how you did your job... |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 7:59:04 PM EDT
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Update #9 in OP
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Posted: 4/15/2019 8:46:17 PM EDT
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Update #8 in OP........ Firearms and the realization that trying to be the best hurts you rather than helps you. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 9:22:12 PM EDT
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Lived it. Have the plaque on the wall to prove it. I never did corrections though. Straight to LE. We hire folks with ink at my agency. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 11:50:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: UPDATE #9 Finally, graduation day. Glad to be done with school and the 120 mile round trip 4 x's a week. I was told at graduation that I am going back to my night shift spot. Not very happy about that but what can you do. Now I just have to wait a couple days to get registered for the FDLE exam and it will be regular life on the compound.  
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Posted: 4/16/2019 2:50:26 PM EDT
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And, It's not just tactics and learning to comport yourself around dangerous people with nothing but your hands. You get a phone book of all the local turds. You listen and work it correctly, you get intel on where the stolen stuff goes, who really is moving weight, details on cold cases... I was never failed to be surprised at what a hardened tush hog would give up in return for boiling water for his cuppasoup... Also, they remember you when they get out. That might be good or bad depending on how you did your job... You will them see on the outside in Walmart, local fair...if you live in the same county you work. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:03:30 PM EDT
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Passed the FDLE exam today. Now I just have to wait who knows how long for Tallahassee to get everything processed and send my weapons card to the compound and I can finally get a raise.
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