My friend has become a JBT :( - Page 1

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Posted: 1/18/2019 10:30:47 PM EDT

A young guy I used to work with for the past two years recently started his career as a police officer. He's still within his first 90 days, so he's with a FTO training officer in his patrol car.

This young man, 20 y.o., was not even 6 months ago laughing and joking around with me and the rest of the guys at the gun store where we all work and hang out. He was just a young up and comer looking to finish his police academy. He and the rest of us are (were) all about guns and freedom, and the young guys of course about girls. I'm double this young officer's age, and 10-15 years older than the other younger guys at the store.

The young officer T has still been coming into the store every couple weeks on his days off. He's still not 21 yet, but the change from 4 months ago to now has been drastic, if a bit concerning.

Since officer T has come in, he used to be like the rest of us; all pro-gun and pro-freedom. But lately his attitudes have begun shifting to the Us versus Them and "Officer safety trumps all" mentality.

There was a recent incident of other officers in his department harassing a local guy for open carrying while fishing. (See it on Youtube). LSS: the officers were wrong, didn't know the law, and handcuffed a man who committed no crime other than exercise his RTKBA in public and open carrying while fishing (which is legal, as well as open carry while hunting or camping.)

When we started discussing it with Officer T, he replied something like "Well you Second Amendment guys are nothing but trouble," and how much it pissed off him and the other officers when people discuss or refuse mistreatment by police, and when the law-abiding know their rights and refuse cooperation even under coercion and threat of arrest.

So this guy went from gun-loving teenager, to JBT in less than six months from being hired on. He's already got the Us versus Them police attitude, and doesn't like it when people stand up for their rights.

WTF.

I guess the police departments love guys like him because he's young, eager, and willing to be brainwashed into whatever the police want to mold him into.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:33:16 PM EDT

[#1]

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:33:47 PM EDT

[#2]

Kick him out of the store.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:35:29 PM EDT

[#3]

Uh, yeah, and you are surprised?

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:35:37 PM EDT

[#4]

Did you remind him that you pay his salary?

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:35:56 PM EDT

[#5]

He might grow out of it.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:36:10 PM EDT

[#6]

Control the narrative. He's confused. He comes back to talk for a reason.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:36:24 PM EDT

[#7]

time for you and jackass to no longer be friends.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:36:56 PM EDT

[#8]

It takes all kinds.

I know a guy who’s been a cop for 5 years and works in a family gun shop. Still very pro-gun.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:38:25 PM EDT

[#9]

Fart on or in him

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:38:30 PM EDT

[#10]

Tell him if he can’t stand the heat to get the hell out of the Kitchen.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:38:41 PM EDT

[#11]

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Oh he will, but by then they won't be friends anymore.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:38:57 PM EDT

[#12]

Tell him he has the right to fuck off and anything he says may be used against him by his fellow civilian peers.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:39:29 PM EDT

[#13]

As long as you respect his authoritie

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:39:48 PM EDT

[#14]

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A young guy I used to work with for the past two years recently started his career as a police officer. He's still within his first 90 days, so he's with a FTO training officer in his patrol car.

This young man, 20 y.o., was not even 6 months ago laughing and joking around with me and the rest of the guys at the gun store where we all work and hang out. He was just a young up and comer looking to finish his police academy. He and the rest of us are (were) all about guns and freedom, and the young guys of course about girls. I'm double this young officer's age, and 10-15 years older than the other younger guys at the store.

The young officer T has still been coming into the store every couple weeks on his days off. He's still not 21 yet, but the change from 4 months ago to now has been drastic, if a bit concerning.

Since officer T has come in, he used to be like the rest of us; all pro-gun and pro-freedom. But lately his attitudes have begun shifting to the Us versus Them and "Officer safety trumps all" mentality.

There was a recent incident of other officers in his department harassing a local guy for open carrying while fishing. (See it on Youtube). LSS: the officers were wrong, didn't know the law, and handcuffed a man who committed no crime other than exercise his RTKBA in public and open carrying while fishing (which is legal, as well as open carry while hunting or camping.)

When we started discussing it with Officer T, he replied something like "Well you Second Amendment guys are nothing but trouble," and how much it pissed off him and the other officers when people discuss or refuse mistreatment by police, and when the law-abiding know their rights and refuse cooperation even under coercion and threat of arrest.

So this guy went from gun-loving teenager, to JBT in less than six months from being hired on. He's already got the Us versus Them police attitude, and doesn't like it when people stand up for their rights.

WTF.

I guess the police departments love guys like him because he's young, eager, and willing to be brainwashed into whatever the police want to mold him into.

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Yeah, the academy training bullshit takes a year or two to wear off. Half my effort in FTO was to try and fix the damage the academy did to the thought process of rooks.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:39:57 PM EDT

[#15]

Simple, OP.

He's a follower, not a leader.

He'll probably be captain in five years.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:42:19 PM EDT

[#16]

I wonder if he'd be mad if he couldn't carry in a courtroom?

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:42:23 PM EDT

[#17]

Some time on the street may wisen him up.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:42:27 PM EDT

[#18]

Not surprising. A 21yo backed by the state and its monopoly on violence, a member of a limited-access club with special rights. His new friends are all cooler than old friends. They are the ones sent to the front door, to collect the guns from peasants. 40yo dudes with long careers stay in the patrol car or at the desk.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:42:45 PM EDT

[#19]

Ask him to burn one with you to chill out.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:43:50 PM EDT

[#20]

Either he will end up face down or someone else will.

He knows he's ruling class now.

But everyone goes home safe.... Leo's that is...

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:46:16 PM EDT

[#21]

Tell him he has been added to the "tyrannical list" and let us know how it goes

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:46:18 PM EDT

[#22]

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Young minds are easy to mold.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:47:10 PM EDT

[#23]

Dat dental plan doh.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:47:14 PM EDT

[#24]

Some time on the streets and in the job should settle him down. If not, he'll become a badge-heavy cop that doesn't get respect on the streets.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:50:51 PM EDT

[#25]

There will be no gnashing of teeth and purse swinging in this thread. It will be 100% constructive dialogue.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:51:48 PM EDT

[#26]

He's just trying to make sure you civilians know your place

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:53:11 PM EDT

[#27]

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Control the narrative. He's confused. He comes back to talk for a reason.

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Posted: 1/18/2019 10:54:45 PM EDT

[#28]

The younger guys I've had a run in with seem to be all piss and vinegar. Older guys could care less when I tell them I have a Glock right there beside me in my bag.

I've seen them putting the old guys and rookies together in my town so maybe it will mellow the young bucks down a little.

Guys under 30 that want to police need to have prior mil service. Then they can come in jaded and maybe chill the fuck out on the little things. IDK

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:57:16 PM EDT

[#29]

What's JBT?

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:58:19 PM EDT

[#30]

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Fart on or in him

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I’m laughing way too hard at this! On or in him. Fucking in him?!? Holy shit!

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:58:45 PM EDT

[#31]

Hopefully he's only been brainwashed by the academy and some time on the street after his FTO will mellow him out.

Posted: 1/18/2019 10:59:02 PM EDT

[#32]

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Jack Booted Thug.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:00:43 PM EDT

[#33]

I had to look. 19 yo is the minimum age in Florida to go to an academy. That's fucking stupid.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:02:24 PM EDT

[#34]

I shit you not, I had a friend, good friend and hunting buddy that went completely nuts after becoming a security guard at the mall.. Every conversation was about how he arrested this guy, or detained this perp, or how the sheriffs dept begged him to come
Work as a cop, but he had signed a “contract” at the mall and couldn’t leave for 2 years... Everytime I went in that mall, he would pop out of know where and harass me about if I was carrying or not, and how it was illegal to have my pistol on his property.. (which it’s not) He has since lost that job, but his whole superhero complex never left... I went from being his best man as his wedding to avoiding him 90% of time..

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:02:56 PM EDT

[#35]

He's young and new at his job. He's trying to impress you in the same way a kid tries to impress his buddies. It looks cool to him but it looks retarded to the rest of you. It might take a few times of the administration and the public shitting on him before he figures out where he is in the scheme of things. Sometimes the ding dongs fresh out of the academy turn into good officers. If not, hopefully they fail their FT and get booted.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:03:13 PM EDT

[#36]

I can say with 100% confidence he does not work at my agency... mind IM'ing me who he works for?

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:03:58 PM EDT

[#37]

Sofa. King. In. I love cop threads

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:05:04 PM EDT

[#38]

Pick up that can!

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:05:17 PM EDT

[#39]

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LOL...and film it for the world to see.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:05:52 PM EDT

[#40]

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:06:04 PM EDT

[#41]

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Guys under 30 that want to police need to have prior mil service. Then they can come in jaded and maybe chill the fuck out on the little things. IDK

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Its generally the exact opposite for many of the most gung ho types.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:07:44 PM EDT

[#42]

A cop at 21, he is fucked. I got hired at 26 and left at 33 and I saw a few younger guys like him come through.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:13:40 PM EDT

[#43]

You could always start pointing out that his job is safer than fishermen, lumberjacks, farmers, farm workers, electricians, mechanic supervisors or garbagemen so he understands he doesn't have to be that hard all the time.

I've got a handy graphic you could give him too, but he'd probably just taze you in the balls for not respecting his authoritah...

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:16:28 PM EDT

[#44]

And he would never participate in any general population gun confiscation, I'm sure.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:16:45 PM EDT

[#45]

I wasn't sure if this was a joke or parody thread at first but it sounds legit.

Sorry for your loss. The loss of your friend and soon your dog.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:18:27 PM EDT

[#46]

some people don't handle power well

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:19:18 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/18/2019 11:20:14 PM EDT

[#48]

don't forget this,
he's a cop.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:24:13 PM EDT

[#49]

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He might grow out of it.

Young minds are easy to mold.

That's why they drafted 18 year olds.

Posted: 1/18/2019 11:24:44 PM EDT

[#50]

Call the department and tell them of the personality change; that you are afraid of him; and you don’t want him coming around the store anymore because he is making disparaging remarks directed towards individuals. He might as well learn this lesson early in his career. It will actually help him out; if he doesn’t get fired.

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