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Posted: 5/15/2024 9:14:20 PM EDT
Looking for comparable models that are upright and fully faired. Considering honda cbr650, and looking for suggestions.

Must have full fairings and look like a street bike. No Yamaha MT series for example.

Must be a four cylinder, no Yamaha R7

Ideal bike would be a 2024 FZ6R, if they still made them…

I want a ninja 650 but with 4 cylinders

Willing to consider BMW, Ducati, Aprilla, Triumph
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:20:50 PM EDT
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Definitely check out the Aprilia RS 660 and RS 457.


The Tuono is more upright, check those out too.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:22:07 PM EDT
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Kawasaki ZX4R. Faster than you think it is.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:27:33 PM EDT
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Versys 1000
Concours 1400
GSX S-1000 GT
Z900RS Cafe?

you can always buy a sport bike and put a handle bar, lower pegs, higher bubble windshield, etc. Theres options. You may be looking for an adv bike with an inline 4 and more sport oriented to get the full upright and faired experience. Versys 1000 is the best at that niche.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:28:43 PM EDT
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Ninja 650 is a L twin.

Why does it have to be an I4? You are more likely to find a more upright riding with a twin in that size class.

Yamaha MT-07 and MT-09 (they took over from the FZ models).
Suzuki SV650 (tons of upgrades available for these since they are very popular for club races).

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:31:00 PM EDT
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Looking for comparable models that are upright and fully faired. Considering ninja 650, Honda cbr650, and looking for suggestions.

Must have full fairings and look like a street bike. No Yamaha MT series for example.

Must be a four cylinder, no Yamaha R7

Ideal bike would be a 2024 FZ6R, if they still made them…

Willing to consider BMW, Ducati, Aprilla, Triumph
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Choices are going to be limited with only four cylinders.  Most of the new fared bikes from Yamaha, Suzuki, and aprilia are parallel twins. The triumph Daytona 660 is a triple.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:38:16 PM EDT
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Ninja 650 is a L twin.

Why does it have to be an I4? You are more likely to find a more upright riding with a twin in that size class.

Yamaha MT-07 and MT-09 (they took over from the FZ models).
Suzuki SV650 (tons of upgrades available for these since they are very popular for club races).

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Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:40:14 PM EDT
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Looking for comparable models that are upright and fully faired. Considering ninja 650, Honda cbr650, and looking for suggestions.

Must have full fairings and look like a street bike. No Yamaha MT series for example.

Must be a four cylinder, no Yamaha R7

Ideal bike would be a 2024 FZ6R, if they still made them…

Willing to consider BMW, Ducati, Aprilla, Triumph
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Ninja 650 isn't a four cylinder.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:44:17 PM EDT
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Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds
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Ninja 650 is a L twin.

Why does it have to be an I4? You are more likely to find a more upright riding with a twin in that size class.

Yamaha MT-07 and MT-09 (they took over from the FZ models).
Suzuki SV650 (tons of upgrades available for these since they are very popular for club races).



Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds

If you want sexy sound, Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 with SC Project can't be beat.

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Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:45:32 PM EDT
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Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds
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Your criteria are mutually exclusive for anything made now, apart from what AGR556 and Knightzone listed, or full on sports bikes, and even those are drying up.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:46:39 PM EDT
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I know. Ninja 650/yamaha fz6r the benchmark for riding position/style
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:49:31 PM EDT
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I know. Ninja 650/yamaha fz6r the benchmark for riding position/style
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Ninja 650 isn't a four cylinder.


I know. Ninja 650/yamaha fz6r the benchmark for riding position/style

Yeah, I have a ninja 650.

It sounds like shit

Fun bike anyways
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:51:32 PM EDT
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Ninja 650 isn't a four cylinder.


I know. Ninja 650/yamaha fz6r the benchmark for riding position/style

Tuono 660

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:56:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:02:28 PM EDT
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Kawasaki Ninja 1000
Suzuki Katana  GXS-S1000R
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:05:37 PM EDT
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A fully faired 4 cylinder upright doesn't exist.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:06:35 PM EDT
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Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds
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Maybe check out the Daytona 660 then.  The street triple 765’s sound is amazing, even with stock exhaust. If the 660 is 75% of that it’ll check that box.

But it’s not petty. It’s the main thing I missed when I sold my triple for an 890 Duke.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:07:29 PM EDT
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A fully faired 4 cylinder upright doesn't exist.
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A fully faired 4 cylinder upright doesn't exist.


See post above yours.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:11:11 PM EDT
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Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds
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Legit personal reason. My SV sound like a freaking Duc when at 10K (it a full blown racebike so it usually lives at high rpms). Its a v-twin (90 deg) so it doesnt have that non-inspiring parallel twin turd sound. My YZF750 goes from a low growl from idle to 4K, mildly louder growl from 4-8K and full blown Sasquatch at 13K. Gotta love Leo Vinci SBK exhaust (and are ultra rare to even find for this bike).

Havent been in the market for a bike in a long time. Actually getting out of it altogether.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:20:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:32:17 PM EDT
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ninja 600 is though.

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:33:29 PM EDT
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ninja 600 is though.

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ninja 600 is though.

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Sweet bike. Bro!
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:41:18 PM EDT
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I had a 2008 fz6.  I wish they still made them.  I think the 2 generations after them are ugly.  

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Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:43:14 PM EDT
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Yes but your laying on the tank like superman.


What's wrong with the Ninja 650? Twin cylinder might not sound as nice but they are bombproof and quick.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:43:42 PM EDT
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If you want sexy sound, Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 with SC Project can't be beat.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/547423/1000002142_jpg-3215383.JPG
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Ninja 650 is a L twin.

Why does it have to be an I4? You are more likely to find a more upright riding with a twin in that size class.

Yamaha MT-07 and MT-09 (they took over from the FZ models).
Suzuki SV650 (tons of upgrades available for these since they are very popular for club races).



Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds

If you want sexy sound, Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 with SC Project can't be beat.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/547423/1000002142_jpg-3215383.JPG


You aren’t joking. That’s a mean sounding bike.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:47:43 PM EDT
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You aren’t joking. That’s a mean sounding bike.
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Ninja 650 is a L twin.

Why does it have to be an I4? You are more likely to find a more upright riding with a twin in that size class.

Yamaha MT-07 and MT-09 (they took over from the FZ models).
Suzuki SV650 (tons of upgrades available for these since they are very popular for club races).



Petty, but I4 simply for sound. This is for fun and the twins sound like liquid turds

If you want sexy sound, Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 with SC Project can't be beat.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/547423/1000002142_jpg-3215383.JPG


You aren’t joking. That’s a mean sounding bike.

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 10:52:52 PM EDT
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thanks?

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 11:28:00 PM EDT
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I loved my Ninja 1000. Rode it all over east of the Miss in all weather. Never got bored.
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 9:25:38 PM EDT
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I think I’m going with a Tuono 660 factory. Just a matter of finding one.

How is reliability?

Depreciation?

Am I better off with cbr650?
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 9:52:41 PM EDT
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CBR650 is hard to beat. Smooth, comfortable, and a Honda.
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 9:59:00 PM EDT
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Replies like this don’t help lol. It’s also super reliable, cheap to service and more available.

But less flair
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 10:03:16 PM EDT
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4 cyls are gross unless you need a race bike with high rpm power.

90 deg V-twin sounds much better and is much more torquey and better drivability in a street bike.  Parallel twins sound terrible. 270 crank versions are a bit better but still not great.
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 10:23:14 PM EDT
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Alot of parallel twins now feature a 270 firing order, they sound like a 90 degree v twin. No triples? They sound awesome. Triumph and Yamaha make some great ones.
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 10:39:49 PM EDT
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cbr 1000
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 10:45:17 PM EDT
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SV650 or Z650
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 10:51:20 PM EDT
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Replies like this don’t help lol. It’s also super reliable, cheap to service and more available.

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Tuono 660 will be more bike in about every way. It won’t have that inline 4 sound, but it’s going to be a lot punchier down low…you may or may not like that.

The Honda iirc is a little bit cheaper, more reliable, cheaper to work on, and you’ll likely have a dealer a lot closer to you than the aprilia dealer.  Inline 4 has the sound but you’re going to have to keep the RPMs up to get the most out of the motor.

The Tuono is going to have a lot more punch down low. It’s going to be more comfortable, more tech, lighter, and all around will be a better every day bike than the cbr650r except for reliability….which is NOT what aprilia is known for.  Then you’ve got to deal with the fact that it’s a P twin.

I think you have better options than both…street triple R, 790 or 990 duke, MT-09 or XSR900, and that’s before you get into the used market.  but that’s just my opinion…
Link Posted: 5/30/2024 11:21:31 PM EDT
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2014/2015 VFR800

RSV4

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This. And the sound is awesome but like I said previously, the position is not as upright. After riding one, they are fun.
Link Posted: 5/31/2024 8:34:24 AM EDT
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Am I better off with cbr650?
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CBR650 is hard to beat. Smooth, comfortable, and a Honda.
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Replies like this don’t help lol. It’s also super reliable, cheap to service and more available.
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450#
94HP
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Link Posted: 5/31/2024 9:05:08 AM EDT
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I had a 2008 fz6.  I wish they still made them.  I think the 2 generations after them are ugly.  

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I had the same bike, year and color. I miss it some days and think about getting another bike, then I remember I did not ride it for like 2 years straight and sold it.
Link Posted: 5/31/2024 9:14:05 AM EDT
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Looking for comparable models that are upright and fully faired. Considering honda cbr650, and looking for suggestions.

Must have full fairings and look like a street bike. No Yamaha MT series for example.

Must be a four cylinder, no Yamaha R7

Ideal bike would be a 2024 FZ6R, if they still made them…

I want a ninja 650 but with 4 cylinders

Willing to consider BMW, Ducati, Aprilla, Triumph
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I’d go with the Triumph, or maybe the GSX-8R
Link Posted: 5/31/2024 9:22:19 AM EDT
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Tuono 660 will be more bike in about every way. It won’t have that inline 4 sound, but it’s going to be a lot punchier down low…you may or may not like that.

The Honda iirc is a little bit cheaper, more reliable, cheaper to work on, and you’ll likely have a dealer a lot closer to you than the aprilia dealer.  Inline 4 has the sound but you’re going to have to keep the RPMs up to get the most out of the motor.

The Tuono is going to have a lot more punch down low. It’s going to be more comfortable, more tech, lighter, and all around will be a better every day bike than the cbr650r except for reliability….which is NOT what aprilia is known for.  Then you’ve got to deal with the fact that it’s a P twin.

I think you have better options than both…street triple R, 790 or 990 duke, MT-09 or XSR900, and that’s before you get into the used market.  but that’s just my opinion…
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If OP can live without a fairing, IMO the Street Triple is the best bike on the market, period. I ride high end sport bikes and have  an R1M, GSXR1000, EBR1190RS Carbon and 3 other bikes in the garage…. My wife also has three and one of them is a 2018 Street Triple 765 RS.. if that bike had a little more legroom I wouldn’t want to ride anything else. Even with the relatively high pegs, it’s not so bad I can’t do 4-5 hours of twisty roads on it.

I’m seriously considering buying one this year with the accessory heated grips and cruise control and in-dash nab system. These are reeeeeally good bikes-they are fast, handle well, are reliable, and they don’t destroy tires or drink gas. I can ride a bike fast enough to flex the frame on an R1M and I can go as fast as I want to on a street triple…. The midrange and high corner speed allows you to be shockingly fast down a back road but it is a fantastic street bike for just cruising around or riding to work. This bike is responsible for me not caring about sportbikes anymore-I’ll keep a few of the ones I have but I’m never buying another.
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Yes but your laying on the tank like superman.


What's wrong with the Ninja 650? Twin cylinder might not sound as nice but they are bombproof and quick.
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Everything about the bike screams “built to a price” and the engine sound isn’t exactly sexy.
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