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Posted: 10/30/2020 7:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THV 9mm so good the US banned it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14562/THVdraw-1661490.jpg Looks like a Sabot round. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 7:59:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Federal HST. Hornady XTP in a pinch.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:02:29 PM EDT
[#3]
I still have a few HST 124 +P+. I don't think you can buy them anymore.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:03:28 PM EDT
[#4]
147gr HST (P9HST2). I’d love to have more Ranger T, but I haven’t seen it in years.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:04:18 PM EDT
[#5]
HSTs are pretty good
124gr gold dots also work well, for a 3" barrel |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:06:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They were a good choice 15-20 years ago. They suck through barriers like glass. HST, Gold Dot, and Ranger are all about equal, pick your poison. On paper the Remington Golden Sabre isn't bad but I had two squibs with them, and until the bankruptcy settles out only a mongoloid would get them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Federal 9BPLE is a stone dead killer with unrivaled street performance  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iiaXoRaRYHST, Gold Dot, and Ranger are all about equal, pick your poison. On paper the Remington Golden Sabre isn't bad but I had two squibs with them, and until the bankruptcy settles out only a mongoloid would get them. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:09:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:20:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:27:37 PM EDT
[#9]
147gr HST has entered the chat
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:30:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a Sabot round. pretty much. and would go through soft armor like butter. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:45:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why did Federal start selling a 150gr HST specifically for micro 9s? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t recall where I read it as it was many years ago, but ballistic tests said barrels 3” or less and best was 124 +p HST. 3” or more and best was 147 HST (+p was not needed). All of my carry guns are short barreled, so I’ve always carried 124 +p HST. I have a small supply of 147 on hand, but have never really fired it. My opinion is the HST is hard to beat. So why did Federal start selling a 150gr HST specifically for micro 9s? No idea. This is not the article I read as the one I remember was over 5+ years ago. I do think this is basically the same premise is that you need the extra velocity of the +p to get reliable expansion out of the short barrel guns. When you view the video linked in the article, it specifically mentions your question about the 150grn. Honestly, I never knew it was an offering, but as you see, it just couldn’t get fast enough to expand and acted just like a FMJ. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/15/can-one-federal-9mm-p-124gr-hst-short-barrel-gel-test-review/ |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:55:07 PM EDT
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I have thousands of rds of golddot and hst
There was a guy that sold golddot cheap on EE before the ammo shortage. But I guess I have 15k of both. Besides my other 9mm. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:57:10 PM EDT
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HST, Gold Dot, Ranger
I'll buy whichever of these I can find for the best deal when I'm looking for ammo. I do admit I am pretty partial to the 124 grain +P Gold Dot in 9mm. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:58:33 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The well placed one. More important than semantics! |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 9:00:43 PM EDT
[#15]
124gr XTP 1300fps
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Posted: 10/30/2020 9:08:00 PM EDT
[#16]
Ranger 127gr +P+. Impressive duty round.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 9:10:43 PM EDT
[#17]
5.7x28
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Posted: 10/30/2020 9:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 124 grain HST standard pressure (P9HST1) This |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:04:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty much. and would go through soft armor like butter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like a Sabot round. pretty much. and would go through soft armor like butter. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:06:02 PM EDT
[#20]
.45
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:08:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Golden Sabre don't perform as well, they lack expansion and over penetrate Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Federal 9BPLE is a stone dead killer with unrivaled street performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iiaXoRaRYHST, Gold Dot, and Ranger are all about equal, pick your poison. On paper the Remington Golden Sabre isn't bad but I had two squibs with them, and until the bankruptcy settles out only a mongoloid would get them. Easy way to tell which ones pass muster or not before you buy any ammo. If the box is remington branded, whatever is inside, sucks. I'll take wolf over remington. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:09:08 PM EDT
[#22]
HST's and GoldDots......just like every year.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:10:48 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The well placed one. /thread |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:14:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Ball ammo. Pick one.
Been killing folks for decades. It works. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:28:16 PM EDT
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I've had very good function and accuracy with 124 gr. Hornandy Critical Defense, can't comment on the lethality.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:28:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 124gr XTP 1300fps Underwood +P+? |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:31:51 PM EDT
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i'm stocked up on HSTs and Ranger Ts in 147gr. Have some Golden Sabre in 147, too - got them on some special deal a few years back where they were on sale at target ammo price.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:51:56 PM EDT
[#28]
124 +P Gold Dots.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:00:08 PM EDT
[#29]
sounds like im good to go - no new hotness
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:08:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm Ranger T-series for the win? “it’s reading right man!” Hudson |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:14:30 PM EDT
[#31]
I have this book by Edwin and Sanow......
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:15:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a HP but this beats ANY round out there in every way. Prove me wrong. Prior to this, HST was my go to https://u.cubeupload.com/crsmoker250/43E12AA4F1C9461293C5.png No street cred. 
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Few Guys I work with use those novelty bullshit “super lethal “ rounds like the R.I.P. I use 147+p hst and switched to the 124 +p hst when they stopped making the 147+p They stopped making 147 +P HST??? |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:41:58 PM EDT
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Underwood Xtreme Defender is the best of the best. Federal HST and then the rest below it.
Technically not a HP, its a solid copper projectile shaped like a philips screwdriver bit. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:44:55 PM EDT
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The current best is Gold Dot G2, 147 or Critical Duty 135 with Hornady being superior as the Speer had issues in some non Glocks with reliability.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you go wrong with a round named R.I.P?  https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ9O2ItY_AtYmDcj6ql1meLbBipJ0sEMO863w&usqp=CAU In court. Worst fucking name for a round. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:48:07 PM EDT
[#37]
I bought a case of the 147 gr +P Rangers from sgammo when they were still available. No idea on “lethality” but I’m sure they’ll work fine.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:30:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In court. Worst fucking name for a round. Somehow we had a guy walk on a Must have had connections somewhere. I heard our master guns scream when he found out about it "___ did WHAT!?!" We never could figure out how a corporal walked on a shooting, ccw w/o license, etc. Iirc the 45/45 was just for intox w/ gun or maybe that and the ccw. Dude later crashed his ultralight, which we never did figure how he could afford. Managed to EAS before they got him for abusing his narcotics. Apparently the RIP round he fired performed exactly as advertised, shredded the shoulder of the POS. I remember some idiot online had a ND with one, think it was glock-leg. Also worked exactly as advertised. It got posted with pics on some gun pages. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:42:38 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty much. and would go through soft armor like butter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like a Sabot round. pretty much. and would go through soft armor like butter. According to the documentary "Ronin", I can just spray my bullets with Teflon to achieve the same effect. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:52:21 AM EDT
[#40]
Full Auto are the most lethal.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:06:41 AM EDT
[#41]
9mm quad.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:08:07 AM EDT
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Check your ammo fort for these recalled SteelHawk rounds.
 Hollow Point Bullets Recalled That Don't Explode In Targets |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:09:34 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: +P 147 HST's? Damn...alright |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:10:55 AM EDT
[#44]
124 grain +P Gold Dots or HSTs.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:32:16 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Federal 9BPLE is a stone dead killer with unrivaled street performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iiaXoRaRYAhahahha...oh wait....you were serious. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:35:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ball ammo. Pick one. Been killing folks for decades. It works. Center punch the MFer.. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:36:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you go wrong with a round named R.I.P? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ9O2ItY_AtYmDcj6ql1meLbBipJ0sEMO863w&usqp=CAU It's a box of devil's!!!!! Those were used to kill Bridgette Shiel in Atlanta. Saw it on the first 48. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:39:01 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 124 +P Gold Dots. Hand load? Or are you buying them... |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:44:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hand load? Or are you buying them... I have a stash of 50 round boxes. Might have been LE ammo. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:46:13 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a stash of 50 round boxes. Might have been LE ammo. 
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