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Link Posted: 7/20/2023 5:51:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2023 5:53:24 PM EDT
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I did two deployments to Iraq as an Infantryman.

Then I worked with SEALS, Army SF, Rangers, etc for years.

Ironically - a number of the SEALs I know refer to training as LARPing these days.

In any event - I suspect the majority of people pointing out VA disability fraud are the people that directly witnessed it like myself.  Most "LARP"ers - of the type you're referring to - would be too scared to go against the modern veteran "protected class."

I also suspect from experience that the majority of people defending it are on the take themselves.

The simple reality is, the military takes in a lot of lower middle class Americans and provides the majority of them with job training that's pretty much worthless once they get out. Factor in the pendulum swinging away from the Vietnam-era treatment of veterans to almost universal "hero" worship and it's no surprise that Joe Veteran would rather collect 2-3k/mo tax free for the rest of his life after a 4-year stint then actually put in 20 years of service to get roughly the same amount. Hell - even the retirees tend to double dip these days and get both.  Since the military is drawing from the exact same pool of people as all the other "men without work" described in this thread - what's so difficult to understand?
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 5:53:47 PM EDT
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Men are increasingly moving right, politically speaking.

So according to your premise, it's not getting close to "ending".


Don't interrupt the LARP'er orgy shitting VA Disability recipients

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I don't know what it's like to shit an orgy, or even to LARP about it. But yea I wouldn't interrupt that, thanks for letting me know.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 5:54:12 PM EDT
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My wife is part German and I have property there so I have some experience;

Are you sure they can't find work because of 449 euros and not because of the fact that Germany has an average of close to 1 child per woman and everyone there is old as fuck with their population dying off so there's nobody to do those types of menial jobs?
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they don't want to work - the 449 Euros is just for food and what ever. Everything else is paid directly to the Landlord this way they can not stiff the Landlord

two people can live on 1000 euros - even better if they have kids which means they get more

they get there health insurance covered and so much more

they could earn 1500 - 2000 euros but before taxes - and taxes are high in Germany  

for some they say I am not getting out of bed for 300 or 400 Euros and than onto of that pay taxes

they rather be home and "get paid" for chilling at home

they would have to get a Car to get to work or use Public Transportation to get to work

they are just lazy


I grew up in Berlin and back than that was not the case - if you got money from the Gov. you had to still work - for example clean streets etc.

that was called Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme if you refused to do that money was cut

same with the Military if you did not want to sever you had to work with old people, sick people or other Social Services

that no longer exists

+ I am back in Berlin every year for several month

Streets used to be clean - they look like shit

there is a large segment of young people - however most of the come from "Shitholes" and they do "Shithole" things here

It's pretty sad to see how some area have completely gone to shits.

One side of the Road has all immigrants and they destroy everything

the other side is clean because of who lives there

Link Posted: 7/20/2023 5:56:18 PM EDT
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they don't want to work - the 449 Euros is just for food and what ever. Everything else is paid directly to the Landlord this way they can not stiff the Landlord

two people can live on 1000 euros - even better if they have kids which means they get more

they get there health insurance covered and so much more

they could earn 1500 - 2000 euros but before taxes - and taxes are high in Germany  

for some they say I am not getting out of bed for 300 or 400 Euros and than onto of that pay taxes

they rather be home and "get paid" for chilling at home

they would have to get a Car to get to work or use Public Transportation to get to work

they are just lazy


I grew up in Berlin and back than that was not the case - if you got money from the Gov. you had to still work - for example clean streets etc.

that was called Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme if you refused to do that money was cut

same with the Military if you did not want to sever you had to work with old people, sick people or other Social Services

that no longer exists

+ I am back in Berlin every year for several month

Streets used to be clean - they look like shit

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Fair enough. My experience is mostly with Munich & Freiburg although my brother-in-law is in Berlin and I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling that sort of nonsense
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:01:05 PM EDT
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Fair enough. My experience is mostly with Munich & Freiburg although my brother-in-law is in Berlin and I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling that sort of nonsense
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they don't want to work - the 449 Euros is just for food and what ever. Everything else is paid directly to the Landlord this way they can not stiff the Landlord

two people can live on 1000 euros - even better if they have kids which means they get more

they get there health insurance covered and so much more

they could earn 1500 - 2000 euros but before taxes - and taxes are high in Germany  

for some they say I am not getting out of bed for 300 or 400 Euros and than onto of that pay taxes

they rather be home and "get paid" for chilling at home

they would have to get a Car to get to work or use Public Transportation to get to work

they are just lazy


I grew up in Berlin and back than that was not the case - if you got money from the Gov. you had to still work - for example clean streets etc.

that was called Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme if you refused to do that money was cut

same with the Military if you did not want to sever you had to work with old people, sick people or other Social Services

that no longer exists

+ I am back in Berlin every year for several month

Streets used to be clean - they look like shit



Fair enough. My experience is mostly with Munich & Freiburg although my brother-in-law is in Berlin and I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling that sort of nonsense



I don't now about Bavaria - only spend my summers there back in the 70's and early 80's

But from what I understand it's pretty much this way in all large Cities

one reason the ADF is climbing in polls - especially in the former East Germany

I grew up in West Berlin - it was a different time back than

every year I see the further decline

Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:06:51 PM EDT
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There is no more fear of failure.
100+ years ago you fail and you have no way to house or feed yourself or your family.
The fear is gone. You can not completely fail.
.Gov insures you can not fail.
Cold air and hunger are true motivators.
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thats because the "social safety net" has become a hammock

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I have infantry bro's who escorted SOF detainees with time to make it to salsa night on VBC. I don't think they're SME's in anything except DFAC food and NOXplode. Regale us with your tales of heroism which led to your SME status in all things distressing.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:14:16 PM EDT
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I don't know what it's like to shit an orgy, or even to LARP about it. But yea I wouldn't interrupt that, thanks for letting me know.
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Men are increasingly moving right, politically speaking.

So according to your premise, it's not getting close to "ending".


Don't interrupt the LARP'er orgy shitting VA Disability recipients

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I don't know what it's like to shit an orgy, or even to LARP about it. But yea I wouldn't interrupt that, thanks for letting me know.


If the LARP'ers could shit on minorities and teens* without getting banned nobody would bat an eye at DV's.


Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:17:20 PM EDT
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I have infantry bro's who escorted SOF detainees with time to make it to salsa night on VBC. I don't think they're SME's in anything except DFAC food and NOXplode. Regale us with your tales of heroism which led to your SME status in all things distressing.
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You seem to really be taking someone calling out VA disability fraudsters personally. No doubt many of those infantry bros you're referring to right now are collecting disability for bullshit right now as well.  Since you know they didn't do anything except go to salsa night - why don't you go ahead and call them out too?
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I've grown weary of LARP'ers hunting for stolen valor and lumping DV's in with civilians who've contributed nothing. Even Bergtard paid taxes and showed up for formation before going off the reservation. I'm a 3rd generation American and 3rd Generation retiree so it's kinda insulting.



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This is how America ends.

It ends with a critical mass
of single liberal males who do not work
because they learned how to live off of
the government entitlement/disability system.

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Obviously you're not familiar with 4chan.
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I've grown weary of LARP'ers hunting for stolen valor and lumping DV's in with civilians who've contributed nothing. Even Bergtard paid taxes and showed up for formation before going off the reservation. I'm a 3rd generation American and 3rd Generation retiree so it's kinda insulting.

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Civilians contributed nothing?  I guess if 'nothing' means paying and funding everything like your and my paycheck and benefits for the duration we received them.  Perhaps you should take a basic course in accounting where you'll discover that if you pay a percentage below 100 of your 100% government earnings in taxes - you're still a net negative to the books.

Some of us appreciate the benefits we actually earned - like 100k in free college tuition for myself.  ...rather than the benefits we didn't - like fake, fraudulent VA disability claims.

VA disability fraudsters and their supporters are pieces of shit and there's no need to compare and contrast them with civilian fraudsters since to be perfectly clear -  both are pieces of shit.  I actually hold fellow veterans to a higher standard though since their negative actions affect the reputation of the rest of us.
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I've grown weary of LARP'ers hunting for stolen valor and lumping DV's in with civilians who've contributed nothing. Even Bergtard paid taxes and showed up for formation before going off the reservation. I'm a 3rd generation American and 3rd Generation retiree so it's kinda insulting.

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Civilians contributed nothing?  


Civilians who work aren't on welfare shitting out feral fuck trophies who in turn go on welfare and shit out feral fuck trophies.


Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:51:44 PM EDT
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Civilians who work aren't on welfare shitting out feral fuck trophies who in turn go on welfare and shit out feral fuck trophies.

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That's mostly true...but as you know - plenty of our fellow veterans did exactly that ....only their welfare is called VA disability and comes from things like sleep apnea, tinnitus, PTSD, etc...

...and dear golly the Salsa nights you described yourself on Victory Base were strenuous during OIF!  Rockets might have hit a few clicks away.
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That's mostly true...but as you know - plenty of our fellow veterans did exactly that
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Civilians who work aren't on welfare shitting out feral fuck trophies who in turn go on welfare and shit out feral fuck trophies.

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That's mostly true...but as you know - plenty of our fellow veterans did exactly that


Fair enough - we did tell my buddy we were going to buy him a playstation so he'd stay off his wife after their 5th daughter.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 6:56:53 PM EDT
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It shows what the per capita budget impact of persons is, separated by race. That is, the average white person contributes $2800 or so to the federal budget.

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Not what I was expecting, I was expecting strange ladies making me nervous.

So when whites stop working and paying taxes. Who will?


Is that^ stating that 'whites' are a net add to (society, the economy, whatever) and that 'hispanics' & 'blacks' are a rather large net drain and/or expense?...
It shows what the per capita budget impact of persons is, separated by race. That is, the average white person contributes $2800 or so to the federal budget.

ETA: in 2014 that is


Ah, interesting...
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 7:15:31 PM EDT
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Corporations and our government spent the last 30 years trashing the middle and working class. To the point where getting a job, being promoted or not getting fired is about box checking what protected class you are. Not your competency.

All directed at white men, the only group that formally never was a net drain on social services.

That destroys any incentive to work.
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I am a pretty lazy fucker.  I pay people to change my truck's oil and have seriously considered paying people to mow my lawn.  I need a full time job though.  Not just for the money, it gives me a purpose.  A man needs problems that need solved or tasks to complete.

It's nice day dream to think about having enough money for free to live a life of no work, but in reality I know that I would become unhappy.  I don't need to be the most important person in the room, but I need to have responsibility.
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People lost the sense of pride
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People lost the sense of pride

Some of us still have it.


Nice family, clean well kept house and lawn.
Would do things to always improve all of it.

I try to do this. Sometimes it takes a while as I have to do things in steps; but it gets done.


Would bring out the lawn tractor and all the men would stand around it yepping and uh huhing.

Lol, I do this with my older neighbors. One will bring his mower over to let the other work on it, then if I'm home, I'll eventually wind up over there and we'll stand around talking and not getting a whole lot done for about an hour or so. They're both retired, and if it's my off day then I usually have nothing better to do.


Bob would be out edging his lawn and hosing the dirt off the road and walk.

Yep, I always blow off the porch, sidewalk, driveway, and edge of the road after I mow. If you don't, then it looks even worse than if you just let the grass grow all crazy.


Neighbors baler shit a sheer pin over on my side of his property and I went in and got him one I had and we fixed it so he could continue.
He didn't have to ask, I didn't tell him I had one
I just walked away when he said that and came back 5 minutes later with a pin and a couple bottles of water and we yepped and uh huhed for a few.

Yep, it's like that with me and my neighbors. If one of us needs something, chances are the other one has an extra one or can at least help with the work of fixing whatever's broken.

But you are correct. Almost all of that life has disappeared. People aren't taking pride in things, anymore. I try to teach my nieces and nephews to take pride in what they do, no matter what it is. So hopefully than can learn and then pass it on to their kids, if they have any.
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Regardless of what people fancy themselves to be,
everyone who can work and doesn't is by definition a liberal,
because unproductive government entitlement parasitism
is a liberal value.

And just to be clear...

Most Veterans file legitimate disability claims
which they deserve to get.

While cheaters file fradulent claims
which they do not deserve to get.
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Not what I was expecting, I was expecting strange ladies making me nervous.

So when whites stop working and paying taxes. Who will?

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Interesting...
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Me too
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"That was "The Safety Dance" by Men Without Hats, or as they're known today... Men Without Jobs."
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Working hard so government can steal half the fruits of your labor? That's nothing to be proud of.


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Yes.

Tinnitus is 10%

Sleep apnea requiring a CPAP is 50%
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I work with two vets that are rated 80% disabled, both make over $100k at this job, both are in shape go to the gym daily, both never deployed outside the US.  I also know two mechanics that are rated 100% that do nothing but smoke weed all day.

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IIRC Tinnitus is 10% and sleep apnea is ~50%.


I work with two vets that are rated 80% disabled, both make over $100k at this job, both are in shape go to the gym daily, both never deployed outside the US.  I also know two mechanics that are rated 100% that do nothing but smoke weed all day.



Imagine how much more successful they would be if they were not disabled.
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Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance

I misread topic title
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You can get a PTSD rating without going into combat too.
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IIRC Tinnitus is 10% and sleep apnea is ~50%.


I work with two vets that are rated 80% disabled, both make over $100k at this job, both are in shape go to the gym daily, both never deployed outside the US.  I also know two mechanics that are rated 100% that do nothing but smoke weed all day.


You can get a PTSD rating without going into combat too.


Of course. PTSD is not only caused by war.
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My hypothesis is that in any industry, any business, any place of work the same paradigm exists more or less: 25% of the workforce is the engine, the highly effective, competent, etc, 75% of the workforce is either superfluous or there only to support the other 25% by picking up some of the workflow, albeit far less effectively or efficiently than the 25%'er.

During the lockdowns, it was the 25% that kept everything going.  They just picked up the slack, but nobody can maintain that tempo forever.  So either the other 75% are going to have to take up some of the workflow or things are going to stop working.
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Been thinking about this lately.

During Covid I was surprised at how few people were actually needed to run things, to keep the lights on and the water running. There was the hard hitters out there working every day, and the rest collecting a check sitting at home shivering and hiding from the scamdemic.  I wonder how many people are just useless parasites compared to the people who actually generate wealth and actually do something valuable.


My hypothesis is that in any industry, any business, any place of work the same paradigm exists more or less: 25% of the workforce is the engine, the highly effective, competent, etc, 75% of the workforce is either superfluous or there only to support the other 25% by picking up some of the workflow, albeit far less effectively or efficiently than the 25%'er.

During the lockdowns, it was the 25% that kept everything going.  They just picked up the slack, but nobody can maintain that tempo forever.  So either the other 75% are going to have to take up some of the workflow or things are going to stop working.
As long as I can remember, the rule of thumb had it at 80/20.
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I found a way around that obstacle
by working for myself in my own business
instead of working as someone else's employee.

Each operates within a completely different financial paradigm.
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I remember when I first realized I had tinnitus. I was watching something on television where they were talking about sensory deprivation and how complete silence can mess up your mind. I realized that I had no idea what complete silence even was. I couldn't remember a point in my life when there wasn't an audible, and often loud background tone.

Never occurred to me until just lately that it was considered a disability. The hyper-alertness that won't let me sleep without meds is another story.
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it's the same in Germany


nobody wants to work because the Gov. pays for Housing and they get a Grundsicherung - they get 449 Euros if single - that's just spending money since everything else is paid for


if they are married they get double + extra money for each child

One of my Buddys has a Business (Glass - Showers, Windows for Aldi etc.) he has two stores and can't find any body to work and he pays more than required

another Buddy has a Restaurant - there are day's where he is not open because of the limited staff he has

so instead of being open 7 days he maybe only open for 4 or 5 days. He is thinking of calling it quits

Local Pharmacy shut down she could not find anybody to work - out of Business

Reisiel a Restaurant that has been in business since 1885 in the same location - same story had to close

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My daughter calls them McJobs. She doesn't see anything paying less than $20+ an hour as a viable use of her time. Of course, she's worked steadily since she was 16, has never been unemployed, and is studying for her masters while working full time.


She'd be just about making it except inflation keep robbing her, and her rent just went up again, to around half again what she was paying two years ago.

Now, saying that, she wouldn't be losing so much ground if she was better at managing money.
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I remember when I first realized I had tinnitus. I was watching something on television where they were talking about sensory deprivation and how complete silence can mess up your mind. I realized that I had no idea what complete silence even was. I couldn't remember a point in my life when there wasn't an audible, and often loud background tone.

Never occurred to me until just lately that it was considered a disability.
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10% for the tinnitus. Explosives in urban environments will ring your bell pretty good.
I remember when I first realized I had tinnitus. I was watching something on television where they were talking about sensory deprivation and how complete silence can mess up your mind. I realized that I had no idea what complete silence even was. I couldn't remember a point in my life when there wasn't an audible, and often loud background tone.

Never occurred to me until just lately that it was considered a disability.


Try getting a job that requires a hearing test. Click when you hear the beep, um there’s always a beep.
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I think this has a lot to do with men not taking jobs.

Society has a phony reverence for manual labor.

In public people spout how noble blue collar work is,
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Mike Rowe recently did a video about this. How long do you want to wait for a plumber or something.
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You can get a PTSD rating without going into combat too.


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Imagine how much more successful they would be if they were not disabled.


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IIRC Tinnitus is 10% and sleep apnea is ~50%.


I work with two vets that are rated 80% disabled, both make over $100k at this job, both are in shape go to the gym daily, both never deployed outside the US.  I also know two mechanics that are rated 100% that do nothing but smoke weed all day.





Imagine how much more successful they would be if they were not disabled.




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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.
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You can get a PTSD rating without going into combat too.


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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd


Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:22:42 PM EDT
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Try getting a job that requires a hearing test. Click when you hear the beep, um there's always a beep.
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10% for the tinnitus. Explosives in urban environments will ring your bell pretty good.
I remember when I first realized I had tinnitus. I was watching something on television where they were talking about sensory deprivation and how complete silence can mess up your mind. I realized that I had no idea what complete silence even was. I couldn't remember a point in my life when there wasn't an audible, and often loud background tone.

Never occurred to me until just lately that it was considered a disability.


Try getting a job that requires a hearing test. Click when you hear the beep, um there's always a beep.
The weird thing is, the whine didn't really interfere with my hearing. I could hear a pin drop, even with the background noise. Doesn't, I suppose, although I'm in my 60s and my hearing is getting worse while the whine isn't getting any better. As more and more cilia stop working and my fucked up brain replaces their input with white noise, I suppose less and less of the real sound of things just doesn't get through.

The hyper-alertness is a far bigger problem, and I've been told I could apply for a legit disability, but I've never been willing to let myself get that deep into uncle's pocket.


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Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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Not sure what you're saying there. I was pointing out the sad truth that there are a number of things that can lead to PTSD that aren't combat related (or, at least not two way range combat), not suggesting you can or should fake not having it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:59:57 PM EDT
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Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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I was only coached on tinnitus and the general “did that happen when you were active duty”?

I have a cousin living off of his PTSD disability. He has it from unloading coffins stateside.


Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:14:50 PM EDT
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I was only coached on tinnitus and the general “did that happen when you were active duty”?

I have a cousin living off of his PTSD disability. He has it from unloading coffins stateside.


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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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I was only coached on tinnitus and the general “did that happen when you were active duty”?

I have a cousin living off of his PTSD disability. He has it from unloading coffins stateside.




Graves detail is a presumptive for PTSD if I remember correctly
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Not sure what you're saying there. I was pointing out the sad truth that there are a number of things that can lead to PTSD that aren't combat related (or, at least not two way range combat), not suggesting you can or should fake not having it.
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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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Not sure what you're saying there. I was pointing out the sad truth that there are a number of things that can lead to PTSD that aren't combat related (or, at least not two way range combat), not suggesting you can or should fake not having it.


My apologies, I think my reply was reflexive since every one of these threads devolves into dirtbags getting coached to maximize their rating. That and I'm a drive by poster so my consistency is terrible. I can't shitpost and be serious at the same time either
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“Coached” to accurately describe symptoms using the language of the VA.

It’s fucked up such coaching is needed.

I’ve used the gun shop analogy before.    
If a customer comes in asking for a “clip for my Glock 40” a gun store run by the VA would say fuck off, go away. If they cared about their customers they would ask a few questions to clarify what model, caliber and capacity of magazine the customer was seeking. I “coach” the customer to speak precisely and ask for “a 15-round factory magazine for a Glock model 22.”

I’ll add an actual VA language example. A veteran that suffers service connected headaches. The headaches are so severe that the veteran must lay down in a dark room for several hours until they go away. The VA term for that is “completely prostrating.”

If the veteran tells the C&P examiner he has to lay down in a dark room for several hours he gets a lower rating that if he simply says his migraines are completely prostrating. Even though it’s the same thing.

If the veteran says the headaches cause him to frequently miss work he gets a lower rating than if he tells the examiner exactly how many full and partial days of work were missed in the prior 12-months due to headaches. So I “coach” them to upload time sheets and sick day sheets to the VA as part of their claim.
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Graves detail is a presumptive for PTSD if I remember correctly
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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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I was only coached on tinnitus and the general “did that happen when you were active duty”?

I have a cousin living off of his PTSD disability. He has it from unloading coffins stateside.




Graves detail is a presumptive for PTSD if I remember correctly


He’s full of shit and gamed the system.

All of the siblings and the mother are full disability. It’s the family business.
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“Coached” to accurately describe symptoms using the language of the VA.

It’s fucked up such coaching is needed.

I’ve used the gun shop analogy before.    
If a customer comes in asking for a “clip for my Glock 40” a gun store run by the VA would say fuck off, go away. If they cared about their customers they would ask a few questions to clarify what model, caliber and capacity of magazine the customer was seeking. I “coach” the customer to speak precisely and ask for “a 15-round factory magazine for a Glock model 22.”
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My apologies, I think my reply was reflexive since every one of these threads devolves into dirtbags getting coached to maximize their rating. That and I'm a drive by poster so my consistency is terrible. I can't shitpost and be serious at the same time either


“Coached” to accurately describe symptoms using the language of the VA.

It’s fucked up such coaching is needed.

I’ve used the gun shop analogy before.    
If a customer comes in asking for a “clip for my Glock 40” a gun store run by the VA would say fuck off, go away. If they cared about their customers they would ask a few questions to clarify what model, caliber and capacity of magazine the customer was seeking. I “coach” the customer to speak precisely and ask for “a 15-round factory magazine for a Glock model 22.”


Coached to get as much money as possible and help you remember those issues you might have forgotten about.
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He’s full of shit and gamed the system.

All of the siblings and the mother are full disability. It’s the family business.
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He's correct, unfortunately. There are more vectors of crushing stress than combat.


Nobody coached me on how to get out of PTSD rating when I retired. It's not like C&P examiners give you the option to not be tard'd

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I was only coached on tinnitus and the general “did that happen when you were active duty”?

I have a cousin living off of his PTSD disability. He has it from unloading coffins stateside.




Graves detail is a presumptive for PTSD if I remember correctly


He’s full of shit and gamed the system.

All of the siblings and the mother are full disability. It’s the family business.


He’s full of shit in that he never actually served graves detail? Or he’s full of shit meaning he’s an extraordinarily resilient human being who did not suffer negative mental health issues from working a detail the military admits causes mental health conditions?
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Can't say I disagree with you, it (at least) contributed to the current state of affairs for sure.

Some of the dumbest motherfuckers I've ever met have been college-educated... and even more so, some of the most atrocious spelling/grammar I've ever seen comes from college "graduates."
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Not what I was expecting, I was expecting strange ladies making me nervous.

So when whites stop working and paying taxes. Who will?

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Interesting source on that graphic.

Not a very old web site.
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0% for tinnitus, 10% for hearing loss (partial).
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