Marine XM3 sniper rifle at CMP auction. Only $20,000

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Posted: 3/13/2018 6:33:16 PM EDT

It would be a cool rifle to own, but not for that much money. I'm betting it will go for $25,000ish before it's over.

XM-3 Sniper Rifle REM S6534024

Posted: 3/13/2018 6:52:15 PM EDT

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Doesn't even come with the can.

Posted: 3/13/2018 6:57:35 PM EDT

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I believe there was a thread here on someone bidding on one of those auctions. Insane prices.....

Posted: 3/13/2018 6:58:53 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/13/2018 7:06:21 PM EDT

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Nightforce scope?

Thought they were using US Optics.

Times change I guess.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:06:47 PM EDT

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I'm going to wait until the end on this one

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:11:28 PM EDT

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A fool and his money.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:14:20 PM EDT

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Not sure why it is that high of a price?

Did it kill Osama or something?

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:15:59 PM EDT

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Nightforce scope?

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They use Schmidt & Bender for the standard m40 series

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:17:34 PM EDT

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The last two I bid on had Nightforce scopes.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:18:52 PM EDT

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I guess XM3s are different. M40 series use S&B

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:20:59 PM EDT

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where can i buy one of those stock pads??anybody know the brand?

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:23:28 PM EDT

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At least they know how to put a gun into a case so it is not resting on the optics.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:24:21 PM EDT

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XM3's all had NF 2nd focal plane scopes delivered to units.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:24:25 PM EDT

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Back in my day, operators operated with Unertl.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:24:39 PM EDT

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Looks like Eagle Industries.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:25:35 PM EDT

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Why do CMP auctions go so high?

It's beat up gear that's going for huge amounts of cash.

Do collectors really go for this shit?

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:27:36 PM EDT

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terrible foam job on the case!

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:28:01 PM EDT

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There was like 60 rifles designed by DARPA built by IBA. I think just about all of them went to Iraq.
XM3 Story

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:30:18 PM EDT

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lol

You really think .mil gives a shit about nicely cut foam?

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:32:09 PM EDT

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dont have the clip-on eitherr.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:32:45 PM EDT

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This one is also missing the ledger

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:32:50 PM EDT

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Yes they do.

My FFL has a few regulars who buy guns like this.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:33:15 PM EDT

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I would buy another Garand or Carbine but not stuff I can get new that is essentially the same.

ETA OOPS, Looks pretty special, more titanium maybe vibranium....

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:39:16 PM EDT

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Just curious, why is the scope MOA turrets instead of mil?

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:42:09 PM EDT

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It was made by Eagle. I have one just like it that I bought from Natchez for like 20 or 30 bucks when they were liquidating.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:44:43 PM EDT

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It used to be pretty common 10-15 years ago when the XM-3 was developed. I don’t know the exact reasoning, but Leupold and NF used to offer lots of optics with mil rets and MOA turrets.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:45:59 PM EDT

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It used to be pretty common 10-15 years ago when the XM-3 was developed. I don’t know the exact reasoning, but Leupold and NF used to offer lots of optics with mil rets and MOA turrets.

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Thanks..My dumb ass just always assumed mil did everything in MIL...duh...

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:46:27 PM EDT

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It’s an extremely rare (something like a total of 60 ever made) piece of military history. Obviously military oriented collectors would be interested.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:47:25 PM EDT

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Sure is expensive for 10" @ 1000 yards.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:47:32 PM EDT

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The issued kit is probably Eagle, Im not sure they are still making those.

Triad Tactical sells one thats just as good.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:49:26 PM EDT

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It is extremely rare for current issue MIL firearms hit the civilian market.

Of course collectors go for this.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:52:15 PM EDT

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I don’t think anybody who’d buy this would be doing so because of its accuracy potential.

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:53:31 PM EDT

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How about this one

Rem 700 m40 new in foil with scope

Posted: 3/13/2018 7:55:36 PM EDT

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I know a guy that has one of these rifles. its pretty cool. he was a marine sniper and recon marine

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:16:34 PM EDT

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Do collectors really go for this shit?

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Yes, for true military gear afficianados, they are well worth the money because so few of them actually come on the market. When the DCM/CMP had M1Cs up for auction, those prices went up through the roof, at least for me, way too rich for my blood.

BUT i did score a M1D.

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:17:34 PM EDT

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Now that, I’d pay for

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:21:57 PM EDT

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I understand value is up to the buyer but I couldn't tell the difference between this or a $1k Rem 700.

$10k could get you a real bad ass gun.

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:26:04 PM EDT

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terrible foam job on the case!https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dead.gif

lol

You really think .mil gives a shit about nicely cut foam?

somewhere on this earth sergeant major is losing his shit over that foam job!

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:28:28 PM EDT

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@DangerDan

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:28:31 PM EDT

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where can i buy one of those stock pads??anybody know the brand?

Looks like Eagle Industries.

IIRC they're discontinued.

I couldn't find one so I bought one of these instead. https://amazon.com/gp/product/B00162JKH0/

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:37:14 PM EDT

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IIRC they're discontinued.

I couldn't find one so I bought one of these instead. https://amazon.com/gp/product/B00162JKH0/

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hah! neat. i have one. a friend bought it for me before i deployed. prior to that i had green ductape and some foam on my m24.

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:37:26 PM EDT

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Company I worked for had a couple of these. Never fired one, but the ones I held looked like they were well made and rock-solid. Lt Col. Chandler's IBA built some good stuff but for some reason the XM3 never caught on. Mention the owner and Marines in the community didn't seem impressed. Hostile, even.

Functionally, it was probably a great product built with great care to very high standards, but egos loom large in procurement circles within certain realms.

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:42:05 PM EDT

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Do collectors really go for this shit?

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Supply and demand. There are a lot of serious milsurp collectors out there, and anything even remotely modern is nearly unobtainable. So when legit recently military issued guns come up for sale it lots of people are willingly to spend a lot for it. A few years ago a batch of USMC M45 1911's came out and they now sell between $3-4K.

Posted: 3/13/2018 8:42:32 PM EDT

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I’d buy it if I had the money, it’s pretty cool.

Posted: 3/13/2018 9:08:39 PM EDT

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The XM3 was a monument to fiscal and operational stupidity.

In an era where COTS gas guns in 7.62 were doing the same job and were on contract, they went out and spent astronomical money on a warmed over Rem 700.

Lets not even look at the better 700 clone actions that have demonstrably better performance...nope...lets buy a 700 and "true" it with taps. Then, lets ignore legions of data from BR shooters and similar on barrel tech and lets go backwards, buying a generic also ran of a barrel. Finally, lets forget the proven chassis systems and similar that offer options like folding stocks, the ability for the user to assemble, and durability...no way we want that...let's pay 3x as much for a plastic stock from a mold with some goop in it to "bed" the action...because the 700 action we bought is nowhere near true/straight and requires bedding.

The fact that this rifle was an improvement only proves that what they already had sucked worse.

There is zero use for a 7.62 bolt gun. Anything 7.62 can do, can be done with a gas gun. Bolt guns should start at 6.5 or 300 win.

Posted: 3/13/2018 9:23:06 PM EDT

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$16k, Sept. 2014

Posted: 3/13/2018 10:29:24 PM EDT

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The issued kit is probably Eagle, Im not sure they are still making those.

Triad Tactical sells one thats just as good.

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where can i buy one of those stock pads??anybody know the brand?

@hanker71

The issued kit is probably Eagle, Im not sure they are still making those.

Triad Tactical sells one thats just as good.

thanks guys!

Posted: 3/14/2018 12:01:10 AM EDT

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The XM3 was a monument to fiscal and operational stupidity.

In an era where COTS gas guns in 7.62 were doing the same job and were on contract, they went out and spent astronomical money on a warmed over Rem 700.

Lets not even look at the better 700 clone actions that have demonstrably better performance...nope...lets buy a 700 and "true" it with taps. Then, lets ignore legions of data from BR shooters and similar on barrel tech and lets go backwards, buying a generic also ran of a barrel. Finally, lets forget the proven chassis systems and similar that offer options like folding stocks, the ability for the user to assemble, and durability...no way we want that...let's pay 3x as much for a plastic stock from a mold with some goop in it to "bed" the action...because the 700 action we bought is nowhere near true/straight and requires bedding.

The fact that this rifle was an improvement only proves that what they already had sucked worse.

There is zero use for a 7.62 bolt gun. Anything 7.62 can do, can be done with a gas gun. Bolt guns should start at 6.5 or 300 win.

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Serious question, were there really that many aftermarket options available around the 2005 timeframe, when this was built?