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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:38:14 AM EDT
But a study announced in December from a team of researchers in the journal Icarus now claims the IAU’s definition was based on astrology — a type of folklore, not science — and that it’s harming both scientific research and the popular understanding of the solar system. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/pluto-planet-debate-rages-rcna8848 I believe @DK-PROF is a planet denier of I remember correctly. 
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:42:03 AM EDT
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I guess that we can expect a barrage of Tweets from Mr. Black Science Man now.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:43:36 AM EDT
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Pluto has always been a planet when I was in school.
My Very Educated Mother Just Sold Us Nine PIZZA's |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:43:51 AM EDT
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King Flippy Nips approves
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:44:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess that we can expect a barrage of Tweets from Mr. Black Science Man now. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:44:19 AM EDT
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Only if they stop mining plutonium!!
Then the ecological devastation and climate change on Pluto will stop. 
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:44:58 AM EDT
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Pluto has always been and will always be a planet in this house.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:45:21 AM EDT
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It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff.
Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science. 
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:45:43 AM EDT
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Bullshit, if planetoids like Pluto were given full status we’d need to give the thousands of Pluto size and larger planetoids we’ve been finding here all over the place new names!
The list of planets in Sol would be so long no one but competing middle schoolers would bother to learn it. No keep the dwarfs off the list. You need to be sphereacle and big enough to have cleaned up your orbitals. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:49:16 AM EDT
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We were treating Pluto's influence as a planet on astrological charts when I was taking courses at the North Star Group in Tacoma in 1969-1970-- I question their methodology, but of course I question everyone's methodology, because that's Science (no, really)
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:52:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff. Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science. If we use that criteria, we have hundreds of planets. There are many asteroids, including rather small ones, that have moons, even multiple moons. Still, I grew up with Pluto, and it will always be the ninth planet to me. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:52:29 AM EDT
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The "folklore" of astrology pegs the discovery of Pluto with the birth of the United States. There's an 80+ year cycle with Pluto that correlates to the revolutionary war, us civil war, us entry into WWII, and now...this period
 It's no wonder they want to cancel Pluto... ...also, astrology has more scientific credence than most of the shit I've seen spouted by our scientific community in the past couple decades 
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit, if planetoids like Pluto were given full status we’d need to give the thousands of Pluto size and larger planetoids we’ve been finding here all over the place new names! The list of planets in Sol would be so long no one but competing middle schoolers would bother to learn it. No keep the dwarfs off the list. You need to be sphereacle and big enough to have cleaned up your orbitals. We would not have to classify other Pluto-like objects, even ones larger than Pluto, as planets. We could classify Pluto as a planet because it earned it by being the first of that kind of body to be found, and for being classified as a planet for many decades. Granted, large asteroids like Vesta and Ceres were classified as planets for periods of times until they too were dropped off the planet list, but I think Pluto is the exception. It had a longer life classified as a planet, and it was the first of its kind found. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:55:56 AM EDT
[#13]
There’s a Gamilon base under the ice on Pluto
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Posted: 12/30/2021 9:56:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:00:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:01:09 AM EDT
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Pluto is planet.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:02:22 AM EDT
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Pluto always has been a planet. Period. End of story.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:08:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff. Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science.  |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:09:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Pluto has always been and will always be a planet in this house. Quoted: It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff. Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science. New Horizons proved how stupid astronomers were. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:11:10 AM EDT
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Me, desperately trying to hold back a Uranus joke:
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:52:47 AM EDT
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Case for making earth not a planet. Earth had not cleared it's orbit path just like Pluto. Earth size compared to its moon is much more like Pluto then other planets. The center of the moon orbit actually comes out to being 75% from the center of the earth and the moon is moving away at 1.5 inches a year. Put earth in mercury orbit and Earth will look like a comet as the oceans boils away. There are thousands of very large objects in the Ort cloud. They are so far from the suns light that next to nothing is known about them. Could be a lot of them larger then earth. Pluto was knocked out of the plant club after the planetary scientist had left the meeting. So obviously there is leeway for stunts to. Would of made actually sense to wait for the pictures from the space probe but nope they noticed who had left the meeting and went with it. Let's face it no matter how much a few scientist have contributed the vast majority are just like everyone else. The label of planet is a category system and Pluto is not a planet because of a joke.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:54:50 AM EDT
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Pluto is a planet. If you got a problem with Pluto being a planet then you got a problem with me and I suggest you let that one marinate!
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Posted: 12/30/2021 10:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if they stop mining plutonium!! Then the ecological devastation and climate change on Pluto will stop. https://s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/4c1/0,0,2000,1050/x,80/2167315/this-pluto-retrograde-its-time-2167315.jpg will that put an end to plutoquakes and shrinkage? |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:02:01 AM EDT
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If Mickey is a mouse, Donald is a duck, Pluto is a dog then what the hell is Goofy?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:02:43 AM EDT
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Pluto is a transgender planet.
Can't even clear its own fuckin orbit. Or even stay in it's own orbit. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:06:32 AM EDT
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"Poor old planet Pluto now he never stood a chance
no how When he got uninvited to the interplanetary dance Once a mighty planet there, now just an ordinary star Hangin' out in Hollywood in some old funky sushi bar"
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:07:45 AM EDT
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They could have easily come up with their dumb new planet definition but kept Pluto officially a planet for historical tradition. The whole thing was a joke.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:09:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could have easily come up with their dumb new planet definition but kept Pluto officially a planet for historical tradition. The whole thing was a joke. Nooooooo, Black Science Man just had to make his mark! |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:14:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could have easily come up with their dumb new planet definition but kept Pluto officially a planet for historical tradition. The whole thing was a joke. Interplanetary scientists say it's a planet. They study planets for a living. Astronomers said its not. They look at stuff through a tube. HMMMM WHO SHOULD WE BELIEVE? OH BOY I CHOSE THE STUPID GLASS TUBE FAGS |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:16:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Science is really getting harder to trust.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:22:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if they stop mining plutonium!! Then the ecological devastation and climate change on Pluto will stop. https://s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/4c1/0,0,2000,1050/x,80/2167315/this-pluto-retrograde-its-time-2167315.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:23:48 AM EDT
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Ceres was called a planet when it was first discovered. Then they discovered the rest of the asteroid belt and realized Ceres was something different, and they stopped calling it a planet.
Pluto has gone through a very similar path. Years after it was discovered, it was later realized that Pluto is in a similar belt of orbiting objects. The final nail in the coffin was the discovery of Eris, which is about the same size as Pluto and has even more mass. They realized that Pluto was just the first body in this new belt to have been discovered, and again it's something different. But it is significantly bigger than Ceres. A new "dwarf planet" designation for Pluto, Eris, and other similar "in-between" bodies makes sense. its all semantics anyway. It's not like they care what we decide to call them. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:26:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pluto always has been a planet. Period. End of story. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:35:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pluto has always been a planet when I was in school. My Very Educated Mother Just Sold Us Nine PIZZA's RAH taught me: Mother Very Thoughtfully Made A Jelly Sandwich Under No Protest (Includes the asteroid belt). |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:37:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RAH taught me: Mother Very Thoughtfully Made A Jelly Sandwich Under No Protest (Includes the asteroid belt). That's harder to remember than Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune and not a planet. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:44:06 AM EDT
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I remember when all this stuff got going. A man from the IAU made a public statement on this and the anchorman broadcasting the announcement on the CBS News burst out laughing, asking the question.
"When was the last time you saw someone wearing a monocle?" I don't think we are supposed to take those people seriously.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:44:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it really a moon if the barycenter is outside it's main body? Looks more like a two body system to me. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Pluto-Charon_System.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff. Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Pluto-Charon_System.gif Yep, Charon doesn't orbit Pluto, they both orbit around a point in space. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:45:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pluto has always been and will always be a planet in this house. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:46:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, Charon doesn't orbit Pluto, they both orbit around a point in space. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a giant object that rotates around the sun and has it's own moon. It's a planet. This is easy stuff. Now what the hell is a mammal with an XX or an XY chromosome supposed to be called?? That's the hard science. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Pluto-Charon_System.gif Yep, Charon doesn't orbit Pluto, they both orbit around a point in space. That is true of the Earth and the Moon, about the Sun and Jupiter, about literally ever pair of bodies in the universe. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:48:32 AM EDT
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Clearing your orbit doesn't mean having or not having a moon, it's that nearly everything in your orbit is either ejected or gravitationally bound to you. Pluto has not done this. Orcus is another dwarf planet orbiting at about the same distance. If anything they're both bound to Neptune.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:50:19 AM EDT
[#41]
In the last 20 years, technical societies have made two reprehensably bad random decisions
1) delisiting Pluto as a planet 2) removing double spacing after the period at the end of the sentance We need to bring back tar and feathering for this. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:52:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pluto has always been and will always be a planet in this house. Amen. And while we are at it, can we get the Brontosaurus back too? |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:54:45 AM EDT
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I grew up with Pluto as a planet and nothing a bunch of hacks say will change that. What I want to know is when Nibiru is going to get some respect?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:56:46 AM EDT
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Pluto is a dog. And he is the pet of an anthropomorphic mouse. How is this complicated?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:57:23 AM EDT
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Scientists need to stop overthinking this…
If its mass is big enough to be a sphere, it’s a moon or a planet. If by itself or has moons, it’s a planet. If it’s orbiting a nearby planet, it’s a moon. If it’s mass is not large enough to be a sphere and it’s a rough object, it’s a space object, and you can take your pick on classifying as a meteor, comet, asteroid, dickfer, etc. Done. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:57:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the last 20 years, technical societies have made two reprehensibly bad random decisions 1) delisting Pluto as a planet 2) removing double spacing after the period at the end of the sentence We need to bring back tar and feathering for this. Someone can stop doing that if they want, but it doesn't affect me. I will continue to do it correctly. I wasn't aware of any "movement" to change this. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:58:30 AM EDT
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Didn't astronomy start with astrology?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:58:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amen. And while we are at it, can we get the Brontosaurus back too? Wait a minute! Wtf did they do to the Brontosaurus?! |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:59:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: King Flippy Nips approves So does Jerry from earth. He's a scientist who's making a model of our solar system. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:59:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't astronomy start with astrology? I think it started when someone looked up and said, "I wonder what that stuff up there is." |
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