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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:23:17 PM EDT
I've been casually looking for a Garand for some time, but have never been able to find one for a price I was willing to pay.  Most of the ones I would find were either in questionable condition, or simply way overpriced...one of the local shops had a late war Springfield in terrible condition, and their asking price was $1700.  I had *sort of* given up, and actually ended up snagging a couple Springfield M1A's.  I thought picking up the M1A's would satisfy the Garand bug, but they did not.  In fact, it made me want one even more!

Well, as luck would have it, I was able to finally pick up not only one Garand this weekend, but two.

The first one is a six digit Springfield (597***), that was rebarreled in the '50s.












Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:24:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:25:36 PM EDT
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Fluffy the cat’s sinister plan is to own all M1’s.  

Nice rifle!!!
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:26:36 PM EDT
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You did good.  I own 3.  My son will inherit 3.  I hope his son get's those 3 as well.

kwg
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:27:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:27:42 PM EDT
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The second one is a Winchester (137***), that appears to have also been rebarreled in the 50's.  
















Both rifles are in really good condition, and I have already ordered quite a few clips...time to get out to the reloading room and start loading some ammo!
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:29:13 PM EDT
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Let’s hear the damage before we go slapping you on the back.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:33:34 PM EDT
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Those are gorgeous.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:36:21 PM EDT
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Very nice
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:37:28 PM EDT
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I wouldn't have expected the ordnance wheel along with the DAS on the top rifle. I am not an expert though. Have those stocks been refinished/ new production? If not, that Winchester stock is worth some money IIRC. Nice rifles.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:38:34 PM EDT
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Second rifle with pre-war no trapdoor buttplate and impeccable cartouche is questionable.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:38:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:38:49 PM EDT
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I hope that is grease and not rust on that Winchester.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:40:21 PM EDT
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Cartouche is fake.......

^^^^ garand collector :)
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:40:52 PM EDT
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Lol, it is.  These rifles were never even fired by the previous owner, and were pretty much pampered the entire time he owned them.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:41:40 PM EDT
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Cartouche is fake.......

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Interesting...I know little to nothing about Garands.

eta:  How do you tell for sure?
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:42:33 PM EDT
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400 yard steel CLANG



Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:43:19 PM EDT
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My 1998 DCM rifle doesn’t look that good. However, it is a Springfield Armory April 1943, the month and year my dad was drafted.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:44:24 PM EDT
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yep those are fake parts...but serviceable.

The barrels were "made" in the 50's... they could have been put on last year.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:44:33 PM EDT
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I have two and for some inexplicable reason, I want another.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:45:04 PM EDT
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Beautiful rifle!

Does CMP not have them anymore?
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:46:03 PM EDT
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I thought I only needed one. I think I have 13 now. I just need one more.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:46:17 PM EDT
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yep those are fake parts...but serviceable.

The barrels were "made" in the 50's... they could have been put on last year.
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Once again, I know very little/nothing about these rifles..what all parts are "fake"?
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:46:47 PM EDT
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Very nice. I've got a '42 Springfield, but with a new Criterion barrel, and newer stock. Don't care, get ping. Maybe if I ever care enough, I might look for surplus stuff.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:47:16 PM EDT
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Now you need an IHC, H&R and then possibly a Beretta and Breda………like Pokémon, you gotta catch them all
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:47:37 PM EDT
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Welcome the the club. Now go shoot the Garand match at Camp Perry!!Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:48:49 PM EDT
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They do but the store is closed while they catch up on mail order…….. I think the TMP has them when they are open……/
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:50:00 PM EDT
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I think all they have for mail order now are refurbished guns with new stocks and barrels (Expert Grade). Those will be good shooters, but not great from a historical perspective.

The stores are going to be your best bet if you're looking for something like a WWII gun.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:51:23 PM EDT
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They do but the store is closed while they catch up on mail order…….. I think the TMP has them when they are open……/
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North store is back open on the 27th, IIRC.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:52:36 PM EDT
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Right now CMP is selling rifles with modern commercial replacement barrels and stocks.  The Philippine guns were pretty rough and they're out of their normal grades of rifles at the moment.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:52:40 PM EDT
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North store is back open on the 27th, IIRC.
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They do but the store is closed while they catch up on mail order…….. I think the TMP has them when they are open……/


North store is back open on the 27th, IIRC.

I think it’s just the South store…….
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:53:13 PM EDT
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I have a decent amount of '06 brass and bullets, as well as a good selection of powders to use...WC844, Ramshot TAC, IMR4064, and 4895.  I'll probably try and stick with TAC and 4064, as that is what I have the most of right now.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:54:24 PM EDT
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Once again, I know very little/nothing about these rifles..what all parts are "fake"?
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yep those are fake parts...but serviceable.

The barrels were "made" in the 50's... they could have been put on last year.


Once again, I know very little/nothing about these rifles..what all parts are "fake"?

The cartouches on the stocks weren't right. The stocks could be new production, or sanded originals that were remarked by somebody. When you see one thing that doesn't look right, it leads one to question other things like are the lock bar sights on the Winchester original, are the receivers rewelds or recovered drill rifles. etc. Again, I am not an expert. You need that M1G guy in here.
@M1G
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 9:55:30 PM EDT
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Very nice op!!! Love my M1, there’s nothing like it!!!

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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:05:55 PM EDT
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Once again, I know very little/nothing about these rifles..what all parts are "fake"?
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yep those are fake parts...but serviceable.

The barrels were "made" in the 50's... they could have been put on last year.


Once again, I know very little/nothing about these rifles..what all parts are "fake"?
The GHD stamp is fake and the no trap door buttplate is also fake.

Some of the wood handguards look new.

Hopefully the barrels are new and should be good shooters.

They aren't welded receivers so thats a plus.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:09:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:09:59 PM EDT
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Thanks for the information!
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:13:41 PM EDT
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The GHD stamp is fake and the no trap door buttplate is also fake.

Some of the wood handguards look new.

Hopefully the barrels are new and should be good shooters.

They aren't welded receivers so thats a plus.
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I consider my Blue Sky re-weld as a spare parts donor, if necessary.   No plans to ever fire it.


CMP and a Fulton are my flavorites.




Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:15:36 PM EDT
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OP, load up some ammo and go shoot them. Nice looking guns.

Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:16:54 PM EDT
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Stunning.
Well done on both, OP!
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I consider my Blue Sky re-weld as a spare parts donor, if necessary.   No plans to ever fire it.


CMP and a Fulton are my flavorites.




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The GHD stamp is fake and the no trap door buttplate is also fake.

Some of the wood handguards look new.

Hopefully the barrels are new and should be good shooters.

They aren't welded receivers so thats a plus.



I consider my Blue Sky re-weld as a spare parts donor, if necessary.   No plans to ever fire it.


CMP and a Fulton are my flavorites.




After inspecting dozens of welded garands I finally found one that was safe to fire and had proper firing pin bridge tolerance...just barely.

So..99.9% of welded ones are unsafe  :D
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:24:48 PM EDT
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No holes in the stock?
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:25:25 PM EDT
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CMP for the win. If you really want to win go to one of the stores an pick a rifle or two.
https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:26:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:50:23 PM EDT
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I got a 308 special a few weeks ago because I've always wanted one.  After shooting it I was kinda, meh.  

I just re-read the description and realized i was supposed to get a web sling and didn't.  
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 10:55:47 PM EDT
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What was meh about it? I just got mine but it's still in delay-jail. I do not see web sling in the description, are you sure that's part of it?

ETA- I see on the website the sling comes with CMP "Special" grade. Not CMP "Expert 308"
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 11:01:22 PM EDT
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Opps. You mean nobody told you about the CMP?
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 11:02:52 PM EDT
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Those stocks are a little too nice looking.
Link Posted: 1/25/2022 11:04:50 PM EDT
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IMR 4895 is probably the most popular, with H4895 a close second.
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Under the buttplate.  There are probably two holes for a cleaning kit and oiler.

I agree with some of the other fellas too.  The stock cartouches look humped.  Someone put those two rifles together.  They look nice but are nowhere near original.  As long as you're happy, that's all that matters.  Just don't try to pass them along as original.  

How much?
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