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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:23:59 PM EDT
Searched thru the AR Pistol Forum; cant get a SOLID answer. Any issues to having an AR Pistol where there are AR Rifles ?
- AR Pistol is assembled, meaning upper is attached to lower that was sold a pistol. - There are no pistol length uppers anywhere, unassembled to their proper pistol lowers Would not having a pistol lenght upper in the same home run risk of constructive possession of SBR ? |
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Pleas don't write a letter asking for clarification to the AFT!
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With 8 hours in a machine shop anything is possible. Stop worrying about what if’s. If they want you they got you.
Thanks corrupt gov! |
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<—- not a lawyer, but as I understand it you’ll only run afoul of constructive intent if you have parts in proximity with no legal configuration available. In your case that means don’t get rid of at least one pistol or SBR lower while you have an upper less than 16 inches around.
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Do you think that the people who own AR pistols only own AR pistols?
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Is having household chemicals under your sink and in your laundry room considered constructive possession of chemical warfare agents?
Is owning plumbing supplies and a cell phone considered constructive possession of an IED? Is owning a serrated bread knife and a screwdriver considered constructive possession of motor vehicle theft tools? Get the point yet? |
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It used to be one pistol lower (or NFA lower) was sufficient to justify any number of short uppers. IANAL
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I take pistol tops off, store them and put rifle tops on, you just can't do it the other way around. Just keep track of serial numbers of who is who.
OP is confused. |
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Constructive possession has no basis in law. It's a scare tactic.
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The shit some of yall worry about. I could not imagine going through life so fucking scared of everything.
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I don't even know what the hell you are fretting about OP.
If you want a pistol length AR then go buy it. Some people make this shit way too complicated... |
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Quoted: This. The people who make the rules ask less questions when determining them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Stop asking. This. The people who make the rules ask less questions when determining them. Don't just stop asking, stop leaving stuff sitting around where someone else can ask for you or make an issue of it. |
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It’s fine, and if one day it’s not fine you’ll have ample notice. If you care.
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I also build every lower as a pistol first, since you can go from pistol to rifle and back legally so long as the configuration at any one time is a legal one.
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No laws during Constitution pause.
IDGAF Sorry, I see where you live. |
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You are fine, where you would run in to trouble is having pistol upper and no pistol lowers. Or having a pistol upper not attached to anything, and a lower with a stock and no rifle upper.
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Quoted: <—- not a lawyer, but as I understand it you’ll only run afoul of constructive intent if you have parts in proximity with no legal configuration available. In your case that means don’t get rid of at least one pistol or SBR lower while you have an upper less than 16 inches around. View Quote That is how I have always understood it from the beginning. Always have a pistol lower, and never assemble pistol upper on rifle lower. |
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You’re 100% fine to have both
Even if you had a pistol upper only I still wouldn’t worry. Constructive intent is not enforceable, and I have never found a single example of someone being charged with it. Being able to do something illegal is not illegal. Additionally, this very question is an embarrassment and you probably should go ahead and turn your guns in, or exchange them for a dildo or something. |
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Quoted: <—- not a lawyer, but as I understand it you’ll only run afoul of constructive intent if you have parts in proximity with no legal configuration available. In your case that means don’t get rid of at least one pistol or SBR lower while you have an upper less than 16 inches around. View Quote It seems like you wouldn't want a stock around with only a pistol as well |
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If you have a AR and a shoe string or a coat hanger, you’re in constructive possession. Do Democrats pay attention to the laws? I rest my case.
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Have your husband buy two safes. Label one "pistols." Label the other "rifles." Put a flower sticker on the one that is for pistols. Put a punisher sticker on the one for rifles. You are GTG.
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You're a damn American (I think)! It's even enumerated in our founding documents. Petty laws of men don't mean shit when it comes to what's right and wrong.
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It's not a "pistol", it's a young AR, and is still growing, that's why it's not the same size as the other AR's.
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Quoted: It seems like you wouldn't want a stock around with only a pistol as well View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: <—- not a lawyer, but as I understand it you’ll only run afoul of constructive intent if you have parts in proximity with no legal configuration available. In your case that means don’t get rid of at least one pistol or SBR lower while you have an upper less than 16 inches around. It seems like you wouldn't want a stock around with only a pistol as well Why not? Is there a law saying what order I have to buy parts in for my next build? |
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Quoted: Searched thru the AR Pistol Forum; cant get a SOLID answer. Any issues to having an AR Pistol where there are AR Rifles ? - AR Pistol is assembled, meaning upper is attached to lower that was sold a pistol. - There are no pistol length uppers anywhere, unassembled to their proper pistol lowers Would not having a pistol lenght upper in the same home run risk of constructive possession of SBR ? View Quote No. As long as there is one legal condition/use for a short upper, you are legal. Those conditions could be no lowers, legal pistol lowers, legal SBR registered lower. If you still worry about creative hands playing building blocks games then store the short uppers with the bolt removed and a cable lock through the ejection port. |
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You are assuming the aft believes in ar pistols. Have you seen the news surrounding this? They have a score sheet, but also declare that if they decide your pistol is not a pistol, that is within their purview.
In summary, if you're this concerned and will comply when the pistol crackdown begins, just save yourself some steps and some $. However, if you believe that shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed, stop asking infringing questions. |
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Quoted: You are assuming the aft believes in ar pistols. Have you seen the news surrounding this? They have a score sheet, but also declare that if they decide your pistol is not a pistol, that is within their purview. In summary, if you're this concerned and will comply when the pistol crackdown begins, just save yourself some steps and some $. However, if you believe that shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed, stop asking infringing questions. View Quote I believe that only applies to braced pistols. With no brace it should be a pistol if their new ideas are approved. |
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I have some diesel and fertilizer stored out by my tractor.
The Taliban has the good stuff we payed for. |
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Quoted: Searched thru the AR Pistol Forum; cant get a SOLID answer. Any issues to having an AR Pistol where there are AR Rifles ? - AR Pistol is assembled, meaning upper is attached to lower that was sold a pistol. - There are no pistol length uppers anywhere, unassembled to their proper pistol lowers Would not having a pistol lenght upper in the same home run risk of constructive possession of SBR ? View Quote [BAFTE]You’ve already considered it, so it’s constructive intent[/BAFTE] Click To View Spoiler its fine as far as federal law goes
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Quoted: This is the most low-T thread I've seen in a while. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The shit some of yall worry about. I could not imagine going through life so fucking scared of everything. This is the most low-T thread I've seen in a while. This. Stop worrying about stupid, bullshit, pointless minutiae of the “law.” It simply doesn’t fucking matter. |
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