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Posted: 9/29/2019 4:54:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 4:56:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Heavy AF
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 4:58:32 PM EDT
[#2]
GD gun discussion


Better off asking this in the NFA forums.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 4:59:02 PM EDT
[#3]
What are your priorities?
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:04:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Heavy compared to others. As above, what is most important?
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:05:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Probably sounds different. Too much weight IMO.

I would look at the Nomad, Omega 300, Vox or Trash Panda.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:05:51 PM EDT
[#6]
I’ll stick with my DA Sandmen.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:07:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:08:04 PM EDT
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Probably sounds different. Too much weight IMO.

I would look at the Nomad, Omega 300, Vox or Trash Panda.
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Pretty much this except I haven’t read much on the trash panda.

Toss in the YHM Resonator also if you don’t mind a little more length.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:09:00 PM EDT
[#9]
Nothing compares
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:09:12 PM EDT
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I've heard that it's sort of a flow-through type/low backpressure design, so it probably won't be the quietest thing in the world, but it should be pretty pleasant on a gas gun.

They're also heavy as hell.  A lot of people say that they don't care about weight, but you will care about it eventually.

Some nice alternatives to consider would be the Dead Air Nomad, Rugged Radiant or the Energetic Arms Vox.
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It has a traditional baffle stack, but also vents gas around and through the vents at the front.

@paco_ramirez probably has diagrams from the patent filing handy.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:09:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Hard pass.

Name is too stupid.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:12:04 PM EDT
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Toss in the YHM Resonator also if you don't mind a little more length.
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What guy wouldn't mind a little more length?
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:12:34 PM EDT
[#13]
I've heard it sounds great at the ear, compared to cans with lower dba ratings. It's also really good at preventing gas in the face.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:13:28 PM EDT
[#14]
You can save in 3 of 5 and only have the following

Weight
Fast attach/ fh capable
Length
Girth
Cost

Pick and choose your can.

Nothing against the Tranq, just lots of choices out there.

Pick according to what you want out of a can and go forward.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:18:25 PM EDT
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There are better options
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:25:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Energetic Armament Vox K
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:27:14 PM EDT
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Short means loud.

Certainly an option if length is more important than sound.

ETA, done any videos with the Vox K?
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:27:16 PM EDT
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Hard pass.

Name is too stupid.
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So it’s spanish for quiet, I’ve heard worse names.

And yeah, they are a bit heavy, but well made and quiet.

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Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:29:14 PM EDT
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Yep.  No more heavy suppressors for me.  Loving my Vox S
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:33:04 PM EDT
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Short means loud.

Certainly an option if length is more important than sound.

ETA, done any videos with the Vox K?
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Energetic Armament Vox K
Short means loud.

Certainly an option if length is more important than sound.

ETA, done any videos with the Vox K?
That’s why you get the regular Vox to keep it company.

I’m more meaning that it’s nice to buy into an ecosystem though, whereas the Tranquilo is a one and done thing. I like my Sandman S, but it’s great having a K to step down to when it’s something that’ll be carried more than shot. I went with DA, but these days there are a lot of other great options that have similar strengths. I’m perfectly happy with my DAs, but if I were a new buyer I’d be looking at Q, Rugged, and EA.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:35:56 PM EDT
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That's why you get the regular Vox to keep it company.

I'm more meaning that it's nice to buy into an ecosystem though, whereas the Tranquilo is a one and done thing. I like my Sandman S, but it's great having a K to step down to when it's something that'll be carried more than shot. I went with DA, but these days there are a lot of other great options that have similar strengths. I'm perfectly happy with my DAs, but if I were a new buyer I'd be looking at Q, Rugged, and EA.
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I'm fairly heavy into DA as well. Sandman-K, SandmanL and Nomad are in my stable.  I really like the QD system, but it is a bit porky.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:39:02 PM EDT
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Short means loud.

Certainly an option if length is more important than sound.

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Not yet...
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:39:39 PM EDT
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I'm fairly heavy into DA as well. Sandman-K, SandmanL and Nomad are in my stable.  I really like the QD system, but it is a bit porky.
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That's why you get the regular Vox to keep it company.

I'm more meaning that it's nice to buy into an ecosystem though, whereas the Tranquilo is a one and done thing. I like my Sandman S, but it's great having a K to step down to when it's something that'll be carried more than shot. I went with DA, but these days there are a lot of other great options that have similar strengths. I'm perfectly happy with my DAs, but if I were a new buyer I'd be looking at Q, Rugged, and EA.
I'm fairly heavy into DA as well. Sandman-K, SandmanL and Nomad are in my stable.  I really like the QD system, but it is a bit porky.
Agreed. Half the reason I picked up my K was the lighter weight. I really wish they’d come out with a dedicated 5.56 Sandman that emphasizes being small and light, even if that means they’ll need to add a barrel length restriction. I’d snatch that up. At least other companies are starting to utilize their (badass) mounts, such that if DA won’t make that, other companies can.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:42:39 PM EDT
[#24]
Sandman S or Sandman K
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:42:49 PM EDT
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Agreed. Half the reason I picked up my K was the lighter weight. I really wish they'd come out with a dedicated 5.56 Sandman that emphasizes being small and light, even if that means they'll need to add a barrel length restriction. I'd snatch that up. At least other companies are starting to utilize their (badass) mounts, such that if DA won't make that, other companies can.
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I'm tempted to grab a Turbo-K for my HD SBR. YHM really seems to have done a good job with that suppressor.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:52:21 PM EDT
[#26]
I’ll tell you in a year or so.

In the meantime I really like my Omega and Hybrid.

I ordered the Tranquilo because at $399, it’s difficult to pass up when you’re ordering an Ultimate Upper kit(s).
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:54:39 PM EDT
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You can save in 3 of 5 and only have the following

Weight
Fast attach/ fh capable
Length
Girth
Cost

Pick and choose your can.

Nothing against the Tranq, just lots of choices out there.

Pick according to what you want out of a can and go forward.
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This is why i went with an Omega
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:56:44 PM EDT
[#28]
What are you using it it?

Just like anything else in life its a trade off.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 5:56:45 PM EDT
[#29]
hard pass. If this is your first can, you want to cover as many caliber bases as possible. Buy a Sico Hybrid. No rimfire but does everything up to 18" 338LM i believe.

SiCo Hybrid and a Dead Air Mask HD rimfire can will cover all your bases pistol and rifle. After those cans, then think about branching out.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:10:00 PM EDT
[#30]
Overpriced mediocrity
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:12:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Rugged Razor or Surge is what you seek.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:15:09 PM EDT
[#32]
I have the Saker 7.62 and the TranQuilo.  IMHO I give the LaRue the edge for quietness.  I've run them on my 5.56's, 6.8 spc's and .300 blackouts.

Some complain about the weight. I wonder if they are running a Marathon ?
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:21:49 PM EDT
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I have the Saker 7.62 and the TranQuilo.  IMHO I give the LaRue the edge for quietness.  I've run them on my 5.56's, 6.8 spc's and .300 blackouts.

Some complain about the weight. I wonder if they are running a Marathon ?
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Dunno, maybe weight matters more if you actually carry it further than from the trunk to the bench and back.

I know, I know, something something lift more/let your husband carry it hurr durr
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:26:01 PM EDT
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If you dont mind being married to heavy and long keymo
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:30:38 PM EDT
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What rifles or pistols will it be used on? What position do you shoot from most? If it is prone or sitting with a bipod it wont matter.

I doubt the extra weight would be as bothersome on a barrel 12" or less in length.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 6:38:29 PM EDT
[#36]
It’s ribbed for your pleasure
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 7:56:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Tag.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:00:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Very pleasant sounding can in my opinion. Very low on back pressure which is awesome as it’s really nice to not have crazy amounts of blowback in the action
Mounting system is good but heavy as the can itself.
If it wasn’t so heavy it would be hard to beat for the price
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:03:38 PM EDT
[#39]
MEH  hard pass, way better options
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:06:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Not just a pass but a hard pass. Heavy, ugly, not a fan of the mounting system, and made by a company not known for suppressors.

The current hotness is Dead Air IMO and their mounting system is one of my new favorites.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:06:15 PM EDT
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I sell a ton of Resonators. They aren't really longer than an Omega that has an ASR mount and Anchor Brake.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:09:04 PM EDT
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Get an ASR kit from Diversified and build your own going the Form 1 route.   Less time and about equal on sound function compared to my Sandman.   I think the LArue is supposed to excel in the area of gas back into the action.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:10:46 PM EDT
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Could switch out to Q Plan B.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:12:53 PM EDT
[#44]
I like mine and it's definitely quiet on a 223
My hunting buddy has a binary trigger in his AR and I let him use the Tranquillo on our last pig blasting trip. I was 4 feet next to the muzzle with no earpro and didn't notice any ringing or discomfort when he popped 10-15 rounds
I've also shot without earpro under a tin roof shooting bench and it was pleasant on my Larue

It's stainless so it will discolor if you don't take care of it
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:13:17 PM EDT
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I wasn't impressed with the one shooting next to me the other day.

It was some jerk off who had to deafen everyone without the can first, then attempt to impress us by putting the can on.  2-3in POI shift at 100yds.

Full disclosure, I was shooting through an aem5 so I was the quietest fucker there.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:16:02 PM EDT
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Could switch out to Q Plan B.
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Could switch out to Q Plan B.
Not on a Sandman unless you want to send it to an 07/02 to have it modified.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:16:30 PM EDT
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I wasn't impressed with the one shooting next to me the other day.

2-3in POI shift at 100yds.
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I think the point is repeatable POI with the can removed and reattached, not the same POI with or without. Every suppressor I own shifts the POI when on or off, but the good mounts/suppressors bring it back to the same mounted POI everytime
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:19:03 PM EDT
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I think the point is repeatable POI with the can removed and reattached, not the same POI with or without. Every suppressor I own shifts the POI when on or off, but the good mounts/suppressors bring it back to the same mounted POI everytime
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I wasn't impressed with the one shooting next to me the other day.

2-3in POI shift at 100yds.
I think the point is repeatable POI with the can removed and reattached, not the same POI with or without. Every suppressor I own shifts the POI when on or off, but the good mounts/suppressors bring it back to the same mounted POI everytime
Right. POI shift is going to happen. Why wouldn’t it? You’re hanging a weight to the end of your barrel. How much is going to be a function of the suppressor weight, barrel and stiffness/length. It doesn’t matter if it shifts, it matters if it’s repeatable.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:19:27 PM EDT
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EA Vox S as a first centerfire. Or TBAC Ultra 7 or 9.

I would instead though, get a EA Nyx 2 for a 22Lr - this is really the fun end of suppressors.
Link Posted: 9/29/2019 8:20:20 PM EDT
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I think the point is repeatable POI with the can removed and reattached, not the same POI with or without. Every suppressor I own shifts the POI when on or off, but the good mounts/suppressors bring it back to the same mounted POI everytime
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I wasn't impressed with the one shooting next to me the other day.

2-3in POI shift at 100yds.
I think the point is repeatable POI with the can removed and reattached, not the same POI with or without. Every suppressor I own shifts the POI when on or off, but the good mounts/suppressors bring it back to the same mounted POI everytime
Again, I was using an aem5, so I stuck my nose in the air with zero shift.
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