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Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:49:16 PM EDT
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Feinstein has nothing and is just treading water to fill her time if she’s going down these rabbit holes. R’s got plenty to work with and are about to swing for the fences.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:49:28 PM EDT
[#2]
horowitz's political bias in favor  of the deep state is not a bias. totally appropriate.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:50:51 PM EDT
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what is the requirement to show there was/is bias? Because if it isn't 17 errors where not a single one favored the Trump team, I would say there is bias. What does he need to say 'yes, there was bias.'
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:51:34 PM EDT
[#4]
investigation opened with a proper predicate  by Priestap.

FISA rules not followed
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:52:33 PM EDT
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Leahy wants to put in protections to fix these FISA abuses.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:53:33 PM EDT
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At work
Can’t watch

Surely they can get this Cuck to admit that the bias was there
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:53:49 PM EDT
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Secret rules for secret courts with secret transcripts of secret presentations.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:53:53 PM EDT
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This should have been released before the 2018 mid terms, PDJT wouldn't be in this situation
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Yes but then he wouldn't be in this situation.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:54:03 PM EDT
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Not having secret courts would be a really good way to fix it...
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:54:26 PM EDT
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Mueller Report. not a lot about carter Page. 7 pages out of ~450 pages.

Russia meddled not Ukraine
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:54:28 PM EDT
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He's an Obamanite. He may actually think he isn't biased.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:55:02 PM EDT
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Secret rules for secret courts with secret transcripts of secret presentations.
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Leahy wants to put in protections to fix these FISA abuses.
Secret rules for secret courts with secret transcripts of secret presentations.
Trust us. We'll get it right  this time.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:55:53 PM EDT
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Swine  is trying to spin this to making Trump being the bully for asking Ukraine to look into Burisma and Dems being the victim, not PDJT being the victim of DNC and Fed govt.

Bitch is truly evil.
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She can't keep up with which lie they are defending. This hearing has nothing to do with any of that.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:55:54 PM EDT
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We spied on a presidential campaign and the president but that’s ok because no bias?  Fucking shit.

Member when they were adamant no spying?  Now they’re admitting spying for well over a year. Makes watergate look like Jay walking.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:56:04 PM EDT
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"we found no evidence"...

It is because they are just ignoring it.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:56:21 PM EDT
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Leahy wants to put in protections to fix these FISA abuses.
Not having secret courts would be a really good way to fix it...
They are going to re-sanction it in about 3 days. The Patriot Act plus stuff.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:56:44 PM EDT
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Leahy is a damn walking corpse, how do this dinosaurs get elected?
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:57:30 PM EDT
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no deep state. Properly predicated investigation by FBI rules.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:58:27 PM EDT
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Obama know about the counter-intelligence investigation? Horowitz- not that I know about...
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:58:28 PM EDT
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How in the fuck can someone INTENTIONALLY do all this illegal spying, etc., and NOT BE BIASED!!??
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The IG is held to the same restrictions as the OMB, unless someone admits bias, he can't find bias. Just like when the OMB looks at a bill, if it promises to  make unicorns appear, they will claim unicorns will appear.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:59:23 PM EDT
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No Deep State global conspiracy, but it came from a "friendly foreign entity."

Grassley up now.  "Steele leak to yahoo."

That was used for FISA too.  Circular reporting used.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:59:26 PM EDT
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What could possibly go wrong?
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:59:29 PM EDT
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Who cares about bias?  They spied on a presidents campaign and while he was in office. Don’t let the no bias narrative fool you.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 12:59:46 PM EDT
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Steel dossier. FBI didn't want to ask him questions about the dossier because they didn't want to insult him.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:00:19 PM EDT
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They are going to re-sanction it in about 3 days. The Patriot Act plus stuff.
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Yea, I know...

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Video at date link.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:00:53 PM EDT
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No Deep State global conspiracy, but it came from a "friendly foreign entity."

Grassley up now.  "Steele leak to yahoo."

That was used for FISA too.  Circular reporting used.
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second source was the first  source.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:02:08 PM EDT
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IG is holding back, stuttering a lot, nervous.
Someone is watching...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELhQZcrXkAE_rtX.jpg:large
Exactly, he is walking a fine line and knows it.

That is if Durham is all that they say he is...
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:02:14 PM EDT
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No Deep State global conspiracy, but it came from a "friendly foreign entity."

Grassley up now.  "Steele leak to yahoo."

That was used for FISA too.  Circular reporting used.
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People involved in upper level LE and Intel know exactly what that means. They used a Five Eyes country to get information that would have been illegal to obtain using US sourced data.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:02:59 PM EDT
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second source was the first  source.
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Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:03:13 PM EDT
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I can not accept this is a failure of basic errors. These people took an oath to uphold the law not their political party. They claim to be the best of the best in Law Enforcement, the cream of the crop and the epitome of professionalism. We can not accept the finding that they just got sloppy. The excuses the IG claims are a sham. Such a pattern of failures, deceptions and lies to the AG and the court is not a failure of basic errors, it is deliberate and criminal. From the top down there was a betrayal of trust with the American people and there must be a price paid. Yup, the FBI, CIA and intelligence agencies involved need to restore the trust we, the people, expect and demand. It won't be fixed by the IG weeping it under the rug, not for one second.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:04:39 PM EDT
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People involved in upper level LE and Intel know exactly what that means. They used a Five Eyes country to get information that would have been illegal to obtain using US sourced data.
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Yes sir.  I'd wager a pmag that they continue to do so.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:04:44 PM EDT
[#32]
*out*
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:05:07 PM EDT
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Not having secret courts would be a really good way to fix it...
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Fucking nailed it.  They shouldn't exist.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:05:20 PM EDT
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Exactly, he is walking a fine line and knows it.

That is if Durham is all that they say he is...
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Indeed he is...

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Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:06:03 PM EDT
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Has FISA ever lead to preventing a CONUS terrorist attack?  No.

FISA and PATRIOT Act need to be terminated.  Man is imperfect and this case has proven Man is incapable of the discipline and restraint necessary to wield this unconstitutional domestic spying system.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:06:57 PM EDT
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I don't understand...ABC, NBC and CBS all covered the impeachment hearings every day but not this?
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:07:56 PM EDT
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The IG is held to the same restrictions as the OMB, unless someone admits bias, he can't find bias. Just like when the OMB looks at a bill, if it promises to  make unicorns appear, they will claim unicorns will appear.
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Then why did he say "I found no bias"?

Why not say what you are saying and finish up with...……"there could have very well been bias but my hands are tied, blah, blah, blah"?
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:08:32 PM EDT
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I can not accept this is a failure of basic errors. These people took an oath to uphold the law not their political party. They claim to be the best of the best in Law Enforcement, the cream of the crop and the epitome of professionalism. We can not accept the finding that they just got sloppy. The excuses the IG claims are a sham. Such a pattern of failures, deceptions and lies to the AG and the court is not a failure of basic errors, it is deliberate and criminal. From the top down there was a betrayal of trust with the American people and there must be a price paid. Yup, the FBI, CIA and intelligence agencies involved need to restore the trust we, the people, expect and demand. It won't be fixed by the IG weeping it under the rug, not for one second.
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Lol. This was not an error. This was a concerted espionage effort to disenfranchise US voters by coercion using knowingly false information laundered through several government agencies to make it look legitimate before dispersing it to the voting population through the media.

This is exactly what intel types train to do and have perfected it over decades using other countries as Guinea pigs and a learning lab.

Covering it up as incompetence and a lack of oversight is brilliant. I'm not even mad it's working so well. Too bad we don't use this for freedom and liberty and instead use it to push forward a globalist agenda.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:09:15 PM EDT
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Then why did he say "I found no bias"?

Why not say what you are saying and finish up with...……"there could have very well been bias but my hands are tied, blah, blah, blah"?
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Probably for the same reason a prosecutor doesn't say "so and so is not exonerated".

Oh wait....
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:09:38 PM EDT
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Democrats: "Is is true OrangeMan is Bad and the FBI did nothing wrong?"

Obama appointee Horowitz: "Yes a million times"
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:10:02 PM EDT
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I don't understand...ABC, NBC and CBS all covered the impeachment hearings every day but not this?
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Nope not one. Was funny switching back and forth checking. When Lindsey was talking CNN and MSNBC were just showing Horowitz's face sitting at the table, nothing else they wanted to make sure none of their audience heard or saw Lindsey speak.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:10:09 PM EDT
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Downer. see previous page.
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She just said it wasn't the Steele dossier that started this -- but info from Australia --   wat??   da fuq is she bringing Australia into this?
They are involved. Some consular official - I forget his exact title, was involved with the Papadopolis sting.
Downer. see previous page.
Mueller tried to avoid naming Downer so he mentioned the date Erika Thompson of Australian SIS made contact with Papa-D to setup the Downer meeting.

Thompson contact May 6, 2016
Downer meeting May 10, 2016
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:11:19 PM EDT
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I don't understand...ABC, NBC and CBS all covered the impeachment hearings every day but not this?
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They don't want their viewers to wake up...

Video at date link.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:13:22 PM EDT
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Senator Depends now concerned about leaks.  You really can't make this shit up.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:13:55 PM EDT
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Mueller tried to avoid naming Downer so he mentioned the date Erika Thompson of Australian SIS made contact with Papa-D to setup the Downer meeting.

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Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:14:30 PM EDT
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what is the requirement to show there was/is bias? Because if it isn't 17 errors where not a single one favored the Trump team, I would say there is bias. What does he need to say 'yes, there was bias.'
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Assuming that errors are random, there's a 50/50 chance that a given error would favor one side (or the other). under that assumption, making 17 consecutive errors that all favor the same position has a probability of 0.0000076, or about 8 in a million.
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:15:20 PM EDT
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Doj,FBI, CIA and other intelligence agencies by doing this , commit acts of treason and are themselves now a national security risk. Skynet became self aware before they even lost the election.

How many election cycles has this been going on for?
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:16:22 PM EDT
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::cough Brennan cough::

Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:16:39 PM EDT
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Horrowitz just proved what a lying POS cunt he is. Leahy is asking him about AG Barr and Durhams motives. You would think that this POS would say I know them to be honorable men, but he is playing coy.

Again FU&DIEHORROWITZ!
Link Posted: 12/11/2019 1:16:41 PM EDT
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Recess.
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