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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:20:03 AM EDT
When I started working for the company, we were doing 60 hour weeks. Pay was good (for central AR) and I was really happy. Not a difficult job and all the guys I work with are awesome.

Cut to January and the work dropped off. Every week has been the same from management “next week will be better!”

We have averaged 3 days a week since January, not being told if we are working until after 6pm the night before. Which makes plans impossible.

I worked Monday and have been off Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I’d have taken my kid camping.

Im lucky that my wife earns enough for us to pay all the bills etc. Some guys have been in deep trouble for months now and I feel really bad for them. The hourly rate is good, but when you’re not working, you’re not earning. They don’t get that concept.

I’m one of the oldest guys (34) that works out in the field. Youngest is 18. That makes us millennials and gen Z.   We ALL want to put in big hours and work damn hard. It’s the older management that have fucked things up. Losing contracts, spending crazy money on new equipment and new hires.

I have my notice this morning and don’t expect to be given much more work over the next two weeks. It’s disappointing and I feel pretty numb about it.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:23:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
When I started working for the company, we were doing 60 hour weeks. Pay was good (for central AR) and I was really happy. Not a difficult job and all the guys I work with are awesome.

Cut to January and the work dropped off. Every week has been the same from management “next week will be better!”

We have averaged 3 days a week since January, not being told if we are working until after 6pm the night before. Which makes plans impossible.

I worked Monday and have been off Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I’d have taken my kid camping.

Im lucky that my wife earns enough for us to pay all the bills etc. Some guys have been in deep trouble for months now and I feel really bad for them. The hourly rate is good, but when you’re not working, you’re not earning. They don’t get that concept.

I’m one of the oldest guys (34) that works out in the field. Youngest is 18. That makes us millennials and gen Z.   We ALL want to put in big hours and work damn hard. It’s the older management that have fucked things up. Losing contracts, spending crazy money on new equipment and new hires.

I have my notice this morning and don’t expect to be given much more work over the next two weeks. It’s disappointing and I feel pretty numb about it.
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For the guys who are hungry and want to work there’s plenty of opportunities may have to move though. Keep your head up.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:24:41 AM EDT
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"F" um.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:27:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Like_Button:



For the guys who are hungry and want to work there’s plenty of opportunities may have to move though. Keep your head up.
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Originally Posted By The_Like_Button:
Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
When I started working for the company, we were doing 60 hour weeks. Pay was good (for central AR) and I was really happy. Not a difficult job and all the guys I work with are awesome.

Cut to January and the work dropped off. Every week has been the same from management “next week will be better!”

We have averaged 3 days a week since January, not being told if we are working until after 6pm the night before. Which makes plans impossible.

I worked Monday and have been off Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I’d have taken my kid camping.

Im lucky that my wife earns enough for us to pay all the bills etc. Some guys have been in deep trouble for months now and I feel really bad for them. The hourly rate is good, but when you’re not working, you’re not earning. They don’t get that concept.

I’m one of the oldest guys (34) that works out in the field. Youngest is 18. That makes us millennials and gen Z.   We ALL want to put in big hours and work damn hard. It’s the older management that have fucked things up. Losing contracts, spending crazy money on new equipment and new hires.

I have my notice this morning and don’t expect to be given much more work over the next two weeks. It’s disappointing and I feel pretty numb about it.



For the guys who are hungry and want to work there’s plenty of opportunities may have to move though. Keep your head up.

This. If you have good drive and initiative you’ll be golden. It’s their loss and you’ll likely land somewhere better.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:30:39 AM EDT
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It’s the older management that have fucked things up
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New people that are older or the same people that were running the company?



Where i work the President stepped down and handed everything to his daughter.

Been going down hill since he left.

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:40:47 AM EDT
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Can you fill pot holes. I hear there are some openings in Maryland.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:43:39 AM EDT
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You should see em round here
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:45:15 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear about the situation. However, I don't understand the logic of quitting in that situation without having another job lined up. Unless you're retiring.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:46:08 AM EDT
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What kind of work do you do?  I'm trying to hire someone for central AR

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:46:47 AM EDT
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What is your line of work?

Is it a seasonal thing?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:47:21 AM EDT
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You should see em round here
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By terryj:
Can you fill pot holes. I hear there are some openings in Maryland.


You should see em round here


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company out of Houston.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:48:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WrightP:


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company our of Houston.
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Originally Posted By WrightP:
Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By terryj:
Can you fill pot holes. I hear there are some openings in Maryland.


You should see em round here


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company our of Houston.


Yeah that is true.  It's been hard as hell to hire anyone in LR area for some reason.  And it's for an awesome job.  Just a kind of job not many people know about or understand.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:53:58 AM EDT
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You did yourself a favor because you have to go find a better job now.

You also did the other employees a favor because they will have a little more work to do.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:55:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WrightP:


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company our of Houston.
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For us idiots, what is that?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:57:05 AM EDT
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Another "Blame the Boomer" thread.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:01:08 AM EDT
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For us idiots, what is that?
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Originally Posted By Bullseye100:
Originally Posted By WrightP:


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company our of Houston.


For us idiots, what is that?


Little Rock?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:03:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bullseye100:


For us idiots, what is that?
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Originally Posted By Bullseye100:
Originally Posted By WrightP:


Is this construction work? I feel LR is dying so much compared to NWA. I'm here in Central AR but work remote for an Oil and Gas company our of Houston.


For us idiots, what is that?
Little Rock.     North West Arkansas
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:03:39 AM EDT
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I think its a better move to get your resume and shit in order and start looking for a now job before you quit your current one.

If you're quitting your current job because the lack of hours, that means you had the time to be searching for new work, while still earning at least some of a paycheck.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:10:16 AM EDT
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They also need a bridge builder
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:24:22 AM EDT
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They also need a bridge builder
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in MD, you'd need to be a transgenderfluidnonbinaryfemboi to get the job.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:24:45 AM EDT
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WALK TALL n PROUD.....THAT company is going down the drain.  There are plenty better down the road.   Good Luck...it's hard for a working taxpayer to sit at home without a job.  

You did the better thing.....
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:34:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhotonKV:
Another "Blame the Boomer" thread.
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If the shoe fits......
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:37:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By manderson1911:


If the shoe fits......
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Originally Posted By manderson1911:
Originally Posted By PhotonKV:
Another "Blame the Boomer" thread.


If the shoe fits......


Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:40:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By terryj:
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No...the bottom just dropped out of that job market.

Great opportunities for people that can cut steel with torches. Must like living near the water.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:49:46 AM EDT
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sorry about all that man.  sucks that a guy with hard-work drive can't get good hours

i wish you the best in your search for something new
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:54:44 AM EDT
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That sucks.  What is your degree in?  Are you willing to relocate?  I have met so many people out of a job that are not willing to relocate.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:57:36 AM EDT
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Find the companies who are getting the work your current company loses, and go to work for one of them.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 9:59:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:

I’m one of the oldest guys (34) that works out in the field. Youngest is 18. That makes us millennials and gen Z.   We ALL want to put in big hours and work damn hard. It’s the older management that have fucked things up. Losing contracts, spending crazy money on new equipment and new hires..
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Don’t fall for the decisive age-bracket bullshit. It’s just another way for us to stay fractured. There are dumbasses in all age, race, religious and regional categories.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:02:24 AM EDT
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Don’t fall for the decisive age-bracket bullshit. It’s just another way for us to stay fractured. There are dumbasses in all age, race, religious and regional categories.
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this bears repeating
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:05:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dopple:
Originally Posted By manderson1911:
Originally Posted By PhotonKV:
Another "Blame the Boomer" thread.


If the shoe fits......

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y2tB2ojXlrHkk8HhKP/giphy.gif?cid=36b14facd7adgushmbz4uqlzv11t6i4lw5elgocqttxulj92&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g



Bravo
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:53:27 AM EDT
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I wish I would have spelled divisive correctly
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:58:13 AM EDT
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Hopefully they're using all that time off to look for other opportunities, and to maybe even work on education to improve their trade or transition to a new trade.

You should try to find a trade/career that pays enough you don't have to work 60 hours a week. Working that much is not making the best of the life we have been given.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:03:22 AM EDT
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What kind of work do you do?  I'm trying to hire someone for central AR

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Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:05:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NorthBridge:

I wish I would have spelled divisive correctly
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Originally Posted By NorthBridge:
Originally Posted By MFP_4073:



this bears repeating

I wish I would have spelled divisive correctly


You were on a roll.  We knew what you meant.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:14:51 AM EDT
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That is fucking funny.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:14:57 AM EDT
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If it's really bad management rather than market conditions, that sounds like a prime opportunity for some hard working go-getters to start their own company and make bank.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:15:52 AM EDT
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There's a guy in TX getting 60 hours for sitting in his truck.


Link Posted: 3/28/2024 11:20:25 AM EDT
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It sounds that company is a sinking ship. Or least not one to be on if you want to make a living.

I hope your main focus this two weeks is on you and your future, and not busting your butt for them.

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 1:25:36 PM EDT
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Hope the new job you took is much better
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 1:32:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:
That sucks.  What is your degree in?  Are you willing to relocate?  I have met so many people out of a job that are not willing to relocate.
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don't want to give up their 2.625% mortgage.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 2:11:00 PM EDT
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don't want to give up their 2.625% mortgage.
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Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:
That sucks.  What is your degree in?  Are you willing to relocate?  I have met so many people out of a job that are not willing to relocate.

don't want to give up their 2.625% mortgage.

Couldn’t nail it more.

My wife’s job is 100% remote and has been since before Covid was ever a thing.

My job would have to pay significantly more to even think about relocating. Like, 4x more.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 2:12:13 PM EDT
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What is your line of work?

Is it a seasonal thing?
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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 2:13:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:

Couldn’t nail it more.

My wife’s job is 100% remote and has been since before Covid was ever a thing.

My job would have to pay significantly more to even think about relocating. Like, 4x more.
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By dannylgriffin:
That sucks.  What is your degree in?  Are you willing to relocate?  I have met so many people out of a job that are not willing to relocate.

don't want to give up their 2.625% mortgage.

Couldn’t nail it more.

My wife’s job is 100% remote and has been since before Covid was ever a thing.

My job would have to pay significantly more to even think about relocating. Like, 4x more.


4x $0.00 is not much
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 2:22:40 PM EDT
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Wife’s salary covers everything. Moving costs are what, $10k? Our 3000sqft house at 2.6% is a pretty sweet deal.

Mortgages still over 7%?
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 3:40:29 PM EDT
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Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast
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If this isn't a bellwether of the economy I don't know what is. OP, go back through the last year of customers you installed and see if they're hiring. If so, that's where you want be.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 3:51:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:


Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
What kind of work do you do?  I'm trying to hire someone for central AR



Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast

Switch to tower work? Or figure out if another fiber startup is getting all your work. They come and go all the time.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 3:56:25 PM EDT
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We're in a construction lul in the industry.

Everyone built out like gangbusters during all the 5g densification, covid wfh ,and the last few rounds of rural broadband stimulus and rdof.

It will all pick up again whenever uncle sugar starts throwing money around again. Seems to be a very cyclical industry.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 4:04:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:


Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
What kind of work do you do?  I'm trying to hire someone for central AR



Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast

Without knowing anything specific about that industry, I would guess that it favors the guys willing to move to where the work is...?

Seems like it's very project-based, the jobs are wherever somebody decides to spend a bunch of money on a new project. Once it's done there's nothing left to do but move to where the next project is.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 4:04:38 PM EDT
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I could get you a job in PA out York, but they work all over the pa and maryland areas. But it does not sound like you want to move ( dont blame you there ) and i have no idea what they would pay, I have not asked.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 4:51:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:


Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast
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Originally Posted By DCPhoenix:
Originally Posted By Rustler:
What kind of work do you do?  I'm trying to hire someone for central AR



Fiber installation. Knew nothing about it until I applied. Been running a bucket truck, underground equipment and dealing with customers. Loved it.

I pick stuff up fast


Dang.  Looking for someone with engineering degree with some HVAC experience
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