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Originally Posted By sq40: That is a truly remarkable clip. The fact that someone would look at one and say "Thats a demon and I don't believe anything it says" may be the lynchpin of this. Our ancestors have warned us about these things for millennia. They say Our planet was devastated due to these things. |
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This guy was the CIA station chief of MOSCOW during the cold war, and headed up the CIA Anti - Al Qaeda WMD team post 9/11. I’m just a half hour in and I’m impressed. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: This guy was the CIA station chief of MOSCOW during the cold war, and headed up the CIA Anti - Al Qaeda WMD team post 9/11. I'm just a half hour in and I'm impressed. 
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The flying monk is completely retarded. Not impressed. He was probably victim to drug dosing and hypnotism by counter spies. A man of that level was certainly a juicy target back then. And that he has never considered this or at the least bother to mention it, says he is truly daft or intentional deciet. It is a Occams razor explanation. He was also a partyer and that made him vulnerable to this kind of attack. He is a terrible trades craftsman, he carried a bible with his god damn name on it everywhere he went while undercover. A true idiot. At the DOE, with his "hazing ritual" was likely a probe to see how he would act. He failed. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Was just wondering if I should attempt at watching this behemoth of FOUR hours and counting... yes? Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By sq40: This guy was the CIA station chief of MOSCOW during the cold war, and headed up the CIA Anti - Al Qaeda WMD team post 9/11. I'm just a half hour in and I'm impressed. I had to stop an hour in to take care of some things at home. I will listen to the whole shebang. 4hrs is a big commitment. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Was just wondering if I should attempt at watching this behemoth of FOUR hours and counting... yes? Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By sq40: This guy was the CIA station chief of MOSCOW during the cold war, and headed up the CIA Anti - Al Qaeda WMD team post 9/11. I'm just a half hour in and I'm impressed. The Inception-like dream stuff is where I got to this morning and... I am skeptical. Which is unusual for me, so it's probably all true 
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Originally Posted By sq40: I had to stop an hour in to take care of some things at home. I will listen to the whole shebang. 4hrs is a big commitment. |
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And he said Greers C5 was legit.  |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Yes brother - but I think it's fun for us. We just run it while doing things here and there (including napping lmao) - even if it took a span of days to watch (unless material is truly unbearable which would be unusual for Jesse) Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By sq40: I had to stop an hour in to take care of some things at home. I will listen to the whole shebang. 4hrs is a big commitment. My impression is that it will be quite good. Really looking forward to the rest of it. Seems like a lot of CIA/Intelligence types in the upper echelons have some kind of link with the phenomenon(s). Is it because the CIA/Intelligence selects for these types of people? |
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Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Greer is confusing to me. I don't trust his past motives and something about him just rubs me the wrong way. Call it gut feelings. And I don't know whether it's true or not he's truly advising all the presidents like he claims. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Yes brother - but I think it's fun for us. We just run it while doing things here and there (including napping lmao) - even if it took a span of days to watch (unless material is truly unbearable which would be unusual for Jesse) Originally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By sq40: I had to stop an hour in to take care of some things at home. I will listen to the whole shebang. 4hrs is a big commitment. I finished it. It was disappointing. The guy comes off as honest. And he feels like he had a strange dream within a dream like inception where he time travelled. His only proof is a claim he didn’t know about the historical figure he was in the dream. Nothing on new UAP or anything solid. Just a few hours of talking about the cold war and his career. Only highlight was he claims a fake UFO briefing is done as a hazing prank for new upper level CIA people. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Ignoring Greer saves you money and saves you on some BS (some valid) without losing out on much in the way of time. Lots of times things will l break open on YouTube channels and Greer (3 times out of 5) gloms on and says "I Knew that first but didn't want to share because....." or announces some new information in the coming months, which is valid for just about any month of the year anymore and therefore not worth waiting on. Either way, you're not getting behind by not following Greer, and saving yourself a lot of headache and gaslighting. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: Ignoring Greer saves you money and saves you on some BS (some valid) without losing out on much in the way of time. Lots of times things will l break open on YouTube channels and Greer (3 times out of 5) gloms on and says "I Knew that first but didn't want to share because....." or announces some new information in the coming months, which is valid for just about any month of the year anymore and therefore not worth waiting on. Either way, you're not getting behind by not following Greer, and saving yourself a lot of headache and gaslighting. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Ignoring Greer saves you money and saves you on some BS (some valid) without losing out on much in the way of time. Lots of times things will l break open on YouTube channels and Greer (3 times out of 5) gloms on and says "I Knew that first but didn't want to share because....." or announces some new information in the coming months, which is valid for just about any month of the year anymore and therefore not worth waiting on. Either way, you're not getting behind by not following Greer, and saving yourself a lot of headache and gaslighting. After his CE5 film came out I started ignoring him, especially after details of his paid retreats came out. If there is a soundbite or interesting snippet, ill listen just to see if it’s of interest. But I’m not investing any real time in him anymore. No buying his movies or watching his long videos and conferences. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: After his CE5 film came out I started ignoring him, especially after details of his paid retreats came out. If there is a soundbite or interesting snippet, ill listen just to see if it’s of interest. But I’m not investing any real time in him anymore. No buying his movies or watching his long videos and conferences. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: And he said Greers C5 was legit. Greer can be both right and wrong about various things. Or he is on to something real and just monetizing the hell out of it, and using showmanship and stagecraft to assure a better payday with it. Ignoring Greer saves you money and saves you on some BS (some valid) without losing out on much in the way of time. Lots of times things will l break open on YouTube channels and Greer (3 times out of 5) gloms on and says "I Knew that first but didn't want to share because....." or announces some new information in the coming months, which is valid for just about any month of the year anymore and therefore not worth waiting on. Either way, you're not getting behind by not following Greer, and saving yourself a lot of headache and gaslighting. After his CE5 film came out I started ignoring him, especially after details of his paid retreats came out. If there is a soundbite or interesting snippet, ill listen just to see if it’s of interest. But I’m not investing any real time in him anymore. No buying his movies or watching his long videos and conferences. I don't care if people follow Greer, I just add my 2¢ to make sure they are going in with their eyes wide open. It's almost like he's trying to start a Scientology thing where the more you pay the more you have the opportunity to see (but not a guarantee of seeing or actually learning anything absolutely concrete knowledge wise). I think people should likes not to all sorts of people that we've shied away from in the past to see why it was that they were ignored and maybe brought out of the dustbin and with the new info out, we learn they were tossed into the dustbin too early. The problem is, the people really trying to get people to listen to them and believe them generally don't ask for money for more stories of what they went through. Sometimes there's a book out, lots of time one is at least in progress (finding a ghost writer in lower word skilled subjects as a possibility) but if we look at the last dozen people that "came out", it's absolutely clear that it is NOT a way to get rich, or get famous, or do anything but lose your job, your friends, your home (because your workplace doesn't want call lists of anti-disclosure people calling daily warning them about one of their employees beliefs) and more and more crap. So somebody steps forward expecting to make it rich with a book deal and maybe a sound bite on a show. Book sales lifetime still in the 5 digit realm unless there's a movie deal or something but that still isn't a replacement. That's lucky in today's world with the various foundations built to help whistle blowers out and find them employment along with enough funds to make it through the rough beginning highest harassment and job less part. 20 years ago there wasn't that and coming forward was literally throwing your life away and people think it s to "be famous" which is sadly laughable on the part of those who thing people with great careers tank them by speaking out. Greer seems to be marketing to that older group of people instead of paying attention to the modern way things are done. His banning all electronic test equipment from his "retreats" is a giant red fag as others use several types just to ensure they're' not seeing a side effect of some other known signal/response. Greer still wants absolute iron fist control over all information and that world he made his big money on is gone. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an “accident” long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. |
“when a [poet] is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason.” - John Keats
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“when a [poet] is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason.” - John Keats
I’ve only made it about an hour in on this last night before needing to go to bed but Ross is really opening up about some stuff we have not heard in the past. The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I’ve only made it about an hour in on this last night before needing to go to bed but Ross is really opening up about some stuff we have not heard in the past.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idBryc0eWwwThis is one to watch all the way. One of the best interviews lately. A52 guy asked the right questions. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an "accident" long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Greer claims he was offered a billion dollars to stay away from the UFO issue. He also claims he "has a team of special forces" that follow him around for security despite people bumping into him alone in public regularly. He says "we have everything ever about UFO's but we won't release it because reasons" and when asked for literally anything to substantiate his claims that he knows how the craft fly, he says "well I don't want to get into that because it's too technical for normal people to understand". He had to nerve to say that to Curt Jaimungal, whose guests and audience study the most complex physics problems ever faced by humanity. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an "accident" long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. I didn’t know about those things. Damn. I knew he used drones and stuff during CE5 events, and his constant claims he “briefed” top level people led me to stop following him. It seems like he got even worse. Like pure nuts and pathological liar. Shit. He really is crazy, and not in the harmless sense. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: I didn't know about those things. Damn. I knew he used drones and stuff during CE5 events, and his constant claims he "briefed" top level people led me to stop following him. It seems like he got even worse. Like pure nuts and pathological liar. Shit. He really is crazy, and not in the harmless sense. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an "accident" long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. I didn't know about those things. Damn. I knew he used drones and stuff during CE5 events, and his constant claims he "briefed" top level people led me to stop following him. It seems like he got even worse. Like pure nuts and pathological liar. Shit. He really is crazy, and not in the harmless sense. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: This is pretty much where things are pointing: the "aliens" are intelligent entities that have a limited ability to interact with our world without a physical vessel (body/craft) that they temporarily inhabit like an avatar. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. All the talk about DMT in one way makes me want to try it and in other ways scares the shit out of me. It must be one wild wild wild trip traveling to that other dimension. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: This is pretty much where things are pointing: the "aliens" are intelligent entities that have a limited ability to interact with our world without a physical vessel (body/craft) that they temporarily inhabit like an avatar. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Let me preface this with my religious biases; I’m a Christian. A non-denominational, biblically read, non-institutional follower of Christ. I did not grow up in the church. I came to it as a young adult. I can’t speak for every Christian, or denomination, but I have of course spoken at length with many people from most of them. This is also the case with Jews, Muslims, and other people of Abrahamic faiths. (One of my greatest friends and mentors was a Jew. And I mentored and am friends with a Palestinian Muslim.) (Not virtue signaling, only honest disclosure of my biases and influences.)) All Christians are by necessity familiar with concepts of non-corporeal entities, Angels and Demons, The Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ in Heaven listening to and answering prayers. They are familiar with the idea that the Holy Spirit changes minds, how it usually interacts, by placing ideas in people’s heads, whispers, shouts, commands, intuition. Most are familiar with and accept the idea that human minds can be taken over by Demons or “bad spirits”. Most are familiar with the concept of Hybrids, Nephilim. Most all believe that these Entities are able to take physical form here on Earth, use tools, wear clothes. Most All Christians fervently believe there are two dimensions that exist and are unseen, yet only separated by a very thin veil, Heaven and Hell. (Some have more dimensions, or planets) ———- Here is where it becomes a problem. The concepts are all there. The black and white distinction is, as you said, correct. “Thats not in my bible”. But it is. So they will see Trinary. God/Jesus - Angels - Demons. All will appeal to God for answers. Many will call them Demons if they don’t look like winged people who are perfect in appearance, with super powers. (Which is not biblically accurate) I think… because the Bible is heavy to call non angelic beings Demons. And that is how many will see them. That is probably why senior pentagon people say they are demons. Through that lens, they are. Non Christians will be everywhere on the spectrum. The concept of Daimons (the name of my latest book on AI oddly enough) will probably come more into common usage. I don’t have a solid point here. Just all of these thoughts. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: He has a messiah complex in the worst way. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an "accident" long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. I didn't know about those things. Damn. I knew he used drones and stuff during CE5 events, and his constant claims he "briefed" top level people led me to stop following him. It seems like he got even worse. Like pure nuts and pathological liar. Shit. He really is crazy, and not in the harmless sense. That is exactly what it seems like. To hell with Greer. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: All the talk about DMT in one way makes me want to try it and in other ways scares the shit out of me. It must be one wild wild wild trip traveling to that other dimension. Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. All the talk about DMT in one way makes me want to try it and in other ways scares the shit out of me. It must be one wild wild wild trip traveling to that other dimension. I kind of want to as well. I am not a drug guy, as in, I’ve smoked weed once… in Jamaica, at Bob Marley’s grave… while in Rome right mon?  But it seems like something to explore. But opening that door, after what Cypher here has told us, it also scares the hell out of me. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Let me preface this with my religious biases; I'm a Christian. A non-denominational, biblically read, non-institutional follower of Christ. I did not grow up in the church. I came to it as a young adult. I can't speak for every Christian, or denomination, but I have of course spoken at length with many people from most of them. This is also the case with Jews, Muslims, and other people of Abrahamic faiths. (One of my greatest friends and mentors was a Jew. And I mentored and am friends with a Palestinian Muslim.) (Not virtue signaling, only honest disclosure of my biases and influences.)) All Christians are by necessity familiar with concepts of non-corporeal entities, Angels and Demons, The Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ in Heaven listening to and answering prayers. They are familiar with the idea that the Holy Spirit changes minds, how it usually interacts, by placing ideas in people's heads, whispers, shouts, commands, intuition. Most are familiar with and accept the idea that human minds can be taken over by Demons or "bad spirits". Most are familiar with the concept of Hybrids, Nephilim. Most all believe that these Entities are able to take physical form here on Earth, use tools, wear clothes. Most All Christians fervently believe there are two dimensions that exist and are unseen, yet only separated by a very thin veil, Heaven and Hell. (Some have more dimensions, or planets) - Here is where it becomes a problem. The concepts are all there. The black and white distinction is, as you said, correct. "Thats not in my bible". But it is. So they will see Trinary. God/Jesus - Angels - Demons. All will appeal to God for answers. Many will call them Demons if they don't look like winged people who are perfect in appearance, with super powers. (Which is not biblically accurate) I think because the Bible is heavy to call non angelic beings Demons. And that is how many will see them. That is probably why senior pentagon people say they are demons. Through that lens, they are. Non Christians will be everywhere on the spectrum. The concept of Daimons (the name of my latest book on AI oddly enough) will probably come more into common usage. I don't have a solid point here. Just all of these thoughts. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Let me preface this with my religious biases; I'm a Christian. A non-denominational, biblically read, non-institutional follower of Christ. I did not grow up in the church. I came to it as a young adult. I can't speak for every Christian, or denomination, but I have of course spoken at length with many people from most of them. This is also the case with Jews, Muslims, and other people of Abrahamic faiths. (One of my greatest friends and mentors was a Jew. And I mentored and am friends with a Palestinian Muslim.) (Not virtue signaling, only honest disclosure of my biases and influences.)) All Christians are by necessity familiar with concepts of non-corporeal entities, Angels and Demons, The Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ in Heaven listening to and answering prayers. They are familiar with the idea that the Holy Spirit changes minds, how it usually interacts, by placing ideas in people's heads, whispers, shouts, commands, intuition. Most are familiar with and accept the idea that human minds can be taken over by Demons or "bad spirits". Most are familiar with the concept of Hybrids, Nephilim. Most all believe that these Entities are able to take physical form here on Earth, use tools, wear clothes. Most All Christians fervently believe there are two dimensions that exist and are unseen, yet only separated by a very thin veil, Heaven and Hell. (Some have more dimensions, or planets) - Here is where it becomes a problem. The concepts are all there. The black and white distinction is, as you said, correct. "Thats not in my bible". But it is. So they will see Trinary. God/Jesus - Angels - Demons. All will appeal to God for answers. Many will call them Demons if they don't look like winged people who are perfect in appearance, with super powers. (Which is not biblically accurate) I think because the Bible is heavy to call non angelic beings Demons. And that is how many will see them. That is probably why senior pentagon people say they are demons. Through that lens, they are. Non Christians will be everywhere on the spectrum. The concept of Daimons (the name of my latest book on AI oddly enough) will probably come more into common usage. I don't have a solid point here. Just all of these thoughts. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: If you strip out all the bits that were added to spice things up, especially things added so the church could maintain control, and just listen to Jesus' actual message, he was trying to tell us. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Let me preface this with my religious biases; I'm a Christian. A non-denominational, biblically read, non-institutional follower of Christ. I did not grow up in the church. I came to it as a young adult. I can't speak for every Christian, or denomination, but I have of course spoken at length with many people from most of them. This is also the case with Jews, Muslims, and other people of Abrahamic faiths. (One of my greatest friends and mentors was a Jew. And I mentored and am friends with a Palestinian Muslim.) (Not virtue signaling, only honest disclosure of my biases and influences.)) All Christians are by necessity familiar with concepts of non-corporeal entities, Angels and Demons, The Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ in Heaven listening to and answering prayers. They are familiar with the idea that the Holy Spirit changes minds, how it usually interacts, by placing ideas in people's heads, whispers, shouts, commands, intuition. Most are familiar with and accept the idea that human minds can be taken over by Demons or "bad spirits". Most are familiar with the concept of Hybrids, Nephilim. Most all believe that these Entities are able to take physical form here on Earth, use tools, wear clothes. Most All Christians fervently believe there are two dimensions that exist and are unseen, yet only separated by a very thin veil, Heaven and Hell. (Some have more dimensions, or planets) - Here is where it becomes a problem. The concepts are all there. The black and white distinction is, as you said, correct. "Thats not in my bible". But it is. So they will see Trinary. God/Jesus - Angels - Demons. All will appeal to God for answers. Many will call them Demons if they don't look like winged people who are perfect in appearance, with super powers. (Which is not biblically accurate) I think because the Bible is heavy to call non angelic beings Demons. And that is how many will see them. That is probably why senior pentagon people say they are demons. Through that lens, they are. Non Christians will be everywhere on the spectrum. The concept of Daimons (the name of my latest book on AI oddly enough) will probably come more into common usage. I don't have a solid point here. Just all of these thoughts. The words in red in the bible, yes. Thomas Jefferson’s bible is just that. Those words and the context is critical. The rest is history and context, for me at least. I really feel like the four Gospels and Genesis with Exodus are the most important books of Bible. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: This is pretty much where things are pointing: the "aliens" are intelligent entities that have a limited ability to interact with our world without a physical vessel (body/craft) that they temporarily inhabit like an avatar. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Ahhhh - interesting. I hadn’t been able to figure out how the “aliens” fit in to this scenario. I’m on board with the VR nature of consciousness, it explains so much. It also dovetails perfectly with the “reality is stranger than you (speaking about normies here usually) could ever imagine.” |
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Originally Posted By sq40: That is exactly what it seems like. To hell with Greer. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: I think if Greer were 100% the real deal, he would have had an "accident" long ago. He is serving someones purpose, or maybe just his own. But, I still give credit to his older films for keeping interest in the subject going. Just like all of the Ancient Aliens people. He destroyed his credibility with his own ego and constant dodging of questions. He turns into a colossal prick with any interviewer who asks him to elaborate instead of just accepting his word as gospel. "Believe me because I'm telling you to and buy my next book which will tell you more of nothing while dangling the hook" is his M.O. I didn't know about those things. Damn. I knew he used drones and stuff during CE5 events, and his constant claims he "briefed" top level people led me to stop following him. It seems like he got even worse. Like pure nuts and pathological liar. Shit. He really is crazy, and not in the harmless sense. That is exactly what it seems like. To hell with Greer. Yeah he’s a weird guy. The attitude is annoying enough; the complete lack of self awareness is the other. Every time something new comes out he’s on TV or some social media outlet talking about how he knew that and wants to speak about it; well, dude: If you really knew about it before, why didn’t you say something? |
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Originally Posted By macman37: Ahhhh - interesting. I hadn’t been able to figure out how the “aliens” fit in to this scenario. I’m on board with the VR nature of consciousness, it explains so much. It also dovetails perfectly with the “reality is stranger than you (speaking about normies here usually) could ever imagine.” Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Ahhhh - interesting. I hadn’t been able to figure out how the “aliens” fit in to this scenario. I’m on board with the VR nature of consciousness, it explains so much. It also dovetails perfectly with the “reality is stranger than you (speaking about normies here usually) could ever imagine.” I was going to edit this post rather than quote it, but I think the bump would be a good thing, so here goes. @Cypher214 you made me think with your post I quoted, and you have with others. I couldn’t get it out of my head how the way Hoffman model (our bodies are the VR interface for this “world”) fits in with aliens and admittedly, abductions. But it does so, and pretty darn well. The aliens that experiencers have seen could be constructs (other outlets have said they’re basically organic robot bodies) that either house an extension of the alien entities’ “spirits,” or an AI doing what they want. And the abductions themselves? What if they were pulling the consciousness out of someone vs. actually moving their bodies, which is at least possible in some of the cases I’ve read about…? Related note that I had while I was mulling this over: I’m not Jewish, but the concept seems to kind of fit in with a Hebrew concept I heard about a long time ago, called the Guf. Roughly, this is a soul repository where souls are kept prior to being assigned to a body when a child is conceived. Hm… |
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Originally Posted By macman37: I was going to edit this post rather than quote it, but I think the bump would be a good thing, so here goes. @Cypher214 you made me think with your post I quoted, and you have with others. I couldn't get it out of my head how the way Hoffman model (our bodies are the VR interface for this "world") fits in with aliens and admittedly, abductions. But it does so, and pretty darn well. The aliens that experiencers have seen could be constructs (other outlets have said they're basically organic robot bodies) that either house an extension of the alien entities' "spirits," or an AI doing what they want. And the abductions themselves? What if they were pulling the consciousness out of someone vs. actually moving their bodies, which is at least possible in some of the cases I've read about ? Related note that I had while I was mulling this over: I'm not Jewish, but the concept seems to kind of fit in with a Hebrew concept I heard about a long time ago, called the Guf. Roughly, this is a soul repository where souls are kept prior to being assigned to a body when a child is conceived. Hm Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Ahhhh - interesting. I hadn't been able to figure out how the "aliens" fit in to this scenario. I'm on board with the VR nature of consciousness, it explains so much. It also dovetails perfectly with the "reality is stranger than you (speaking about normies here usually) could ever imagine." I was going to edit this post rather than quote it, but I think the bump would be a good thing, so here goes. @Cypher214 you made me think with your post I quoted, and you have with others. I couldn't get it out of my head how the way Hoffman model (our bodies are the VR interface for this "world") fits in with aliens and admittedly, abductions. But it does so, and pretty darn well. The aliens that experiencers have seen could be constructs (other outlets have said they're basically organic robot bodies) that either house an extension of the alien entities' "spirits," or an AI doing what they want. And the abductions themselves? What if they were pulling the consciousness out of someone vs. actually moving their bodies, which is at least possible in some of the cases I've read about ? Related note that I had while I was mulling this over: I'm not Jewish, but the concept seems to kind of fit in with a Hebrew concept I heard about a long time ago, called the Guf. Roughly, this is a soul repository where souls are kept prior to being assigned to a body when a child is conceived. Hm There's a lot we don't understand about our experience and the reality we inhabit, and it's perfectly understandable considering the limitations. We know we are conscious, but we can't define consciousness or quantify it or explain where it originates. The human experience is loaded with occurrences that don't jive with strict materialism. As far as we know, our consciousness enters this experience organically. It's entirely possible a more advanced intelligence enters this reality through a manufactured sensor suite. In fact, we are enabling artificial intelligence to interact with the world through robotics so it's not a wild concept. We already interact with other planets through probes. It's not a major leap from that to temporarily plugging your consciousness into a grown-on-site organic sensor suite in order to interact with the environment similar to the Avatar movies. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
| I still believe that we ourselves are nothing more than very very complex robots that have a “soul” and our consciousness is continually downloaded via the pineal gland crystal antennas. We may or may not even be in these bodies. And mankind is now creating robots that will be much smarter than us that will not be able to ever have a soul as stated by Dr Julia McCoy on her channel about the new Quantum computer stuff daily.l. I hear the continual download screaming at me but damned if I can really understand what it’s telling me. |
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Where does the consciousness actually live? And why do all of these congregate here around this planet? Trying to think of why just pulls me back to Genesis. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Where does the consciousness actually live? And why do all of these congregate here around this planet? Trying to think of why just pulls me back to Genesis. Call it an alternate dimension, "spirit world", heaven, whatever you want, it's somewhere else that isn't the world we see/smell/hear/touch on a daily basis. There's ample lore to suggest there are different levels/realms and that seems accurate based on my personal experience. This stuff is hard to talk about just due to language barriers. It's fucking difficult to describe a thing that most people haven't experienced and there's nothing in our world to compare it to. On top of that, most people think you're just a nutcase when you try to explain it. I don't really talk about it with people unless they bring it up but even I find myself eye rolling during conversations about this shit because I have this extremely unusual combination of strict logic-based thinking along with logic-defying personal experiences. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I don't think humanity can fully understand it. We lack a frame of reference and since we are unable to get there physically, it can't be measured/recorded for study. Call it an alternate dimension, "spirit world", heaven, whatever you want, it's somewhere else that isn't the world we see/smell/hear/touch on a daily basis. There's ample lore to suggest there are different levels/realms and that seems accurate based on my personal experience. This stuff is hard to talk about just due to language barriers. It's fucking difficult to describe a thing that most people haven't experienced and there's nothing in our world to compare it to. On top of that, most people think you're just a nutcase when you try to explain it. I don't really talk about it with people unless they bring it up but even I find myself eye rolling during conversations about this shit because I have this extremely unusual combination of strict logic-based thinking along with logic-defying personal experiences. Those experience are very valuable. You will get no flack for sharing. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
| The moon being a soul trap is a very real thing apparently. I think we should turn our backs on the light and remember where our consciousness really comes from and return to source instead of being placed in another womb here on earth or elsewhere in the universe as explained in a video above that I posted. I first heard about earth being a prison on a channel Farsite/sight? academy about a year ago. Really strange channel I quit following but he may be telling the truth. The article I posted over in the bite size thread is really depressing about disclosure. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I think digging into this topic forces a person to abandon the concept of "this is a purely physical phenomenon with purely physical beings that fly around, do alien stuff, and then go home and go to bed". There's a lot we don't understand about our experience and the reality we inhabit, and it's perfectly understandable considering the limitations. We know we are conscious, but we can't define consciousness or quantify it or explain where it originates. The human experience is loaded with occurrences that don't jive with strict materialism. As far as we know, our consciousness enters this experience organically. It's entirely possible a more advanced intelligence enters this reality through a manufactured sensor suite. In fact, we are enabling artificial intelligence to interact with the world through robotics so it's not a wild concept. We already interact with other planets through probes. It's not a major leap from that to temporarily plugging your consciousness into a grown-on-site organic sensor suite in order to interact with the environment similar to the Avatar movies. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLz98DyeXgGraham on Jesse. Interesting ideas; UFOs are vehicles to transverse the physical and spiritual world. DMT is a medical tool to bridge the physical and spiritual world. Uranium is an environmental "DMT" that bridges the physical and spiritual world. Our physical bodies are a temporary sensor suite for our "soul" in the same way. It's like logging into a video game and playing as a character to enable interaction with the virtual world of the game because you can't physically insert yourself into the simulation. That's the rub with full disclosure. It's an incredibly complex and hard-to-grasp reality that just happens to satisfy every human spiritual concept. The strict materialists and hyper-religious "my Bible doesn't say it that way" types will have the hardest time with acceptance because they see it as going against their beliefs even though it really doesn't. Ahhhh - interesting. I hadn't been able to figure out how the "aliens" fit in to this scenario. I'm on board with the VR nature of consciousness, it explains so much. It also dovetails perfectly with the "reality is stranger than you (speaking about normies here usually) could ever imagine." I was going to edit this post rather than quote it, but I think the bump would be a good thing, so here goes. @Cypher214 you made me think with your post I quoted, and you have with others. I couldn't get it out of my head how the way Hoffman model (our bodies are the VR interface for this "world") fits in with aliens and admittedly, abductions. But it does so, and pretty darn well. The aliens that experiencers have seen could be constructs (other outlets have said they're basically organic robot bodies) that either house an extension of the alien entities' "spirits," or an AI doing what they want. And the abductions themselves? What if they were pulling the consciousness out of someone vs. actually moving their bodies, which is at least possible in some of the cases I've read about ? Related note that I had while I was mulling this over: I'm not Jewish, but the concept seems to kind of fit in with a Hebrew concept I heard about a long time ago, called the Guf. Roughly, this is a soul repository where souls are kept prior to being assigned to a body when a child is conceived. Hm There's a lot we don't understand about our experience and the reality we inhabit, and it's perfectly understandable considering the limitations. We know we are conscious, but we can't define consciousness or quantify it or explain where it originates. The human experience is loaded with occurrences that don't jive with strict materialism. As far as we know, our consciousness enters this experience organically. It's entirely possible a more advanced intelligence enters this reality through a manufactured sensor suite. In fact, we are enabling artificial intelligence to interact with the world through robotics so it's not a wild concept. We already interact with other planets through probes. It's not a major leap from that to temporarily plugging your consciousness into a grown-on-site organic sensor suite in order to interact with the environment similar to the Avatar movies. Good stuff and I agree… also, I, too would give you no flak for expanding on your post to sq40. 
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I hope it’s just my truck this morning and not something like a warning about the pole shifting. My truck compass is suddenly reversed! North is south and east is west. And I walk outside to a cardinal staring at me and it’s of course 7:11. Very strange times we are living. My phone compass is still correct at least and my truck doesn’t have nav. so not really an issue. ETA as far as the above video I just find it incredible now that you can simply even just think about something without even having to post on the internet or even speak it out loud an a video or news article or something will offer pop up about it. They are listening whoever/whatever they are. Attached File Attached File |
