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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:44:39 PM EDT
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I hear it's blowing up in Japan.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:45:39 PM EDT
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It's big in Japan.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. Shut it down boys!!! /thread 
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's big in Japan. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:53:25 PM EDT
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I have often wondered why there is no obesity in Japan. Seems they have an aversion to fat men.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's big in Japan.  Alphaville - Big In Japan (Official Music Video) |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:55:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. Winner. /thread |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 10:56:55 PM EDT
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If you ever spent any time watching NHK World, that Country has a real chip on their shoulder about being nuked. They will work that shit in every news story or show they possibly can.
Someday, I would like to visit The Col.Tibbets Memorial Park. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:06:43 PM EDT
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There's a boycott going on because they considered the Barbenheimer meme to be culturally offensive and making fun of their deceased. We talked about it in the Anime thread a bit but I didn't think most people here would care so I didn't make a thread.
FWIW: It hasn't actually released there, nor is there any slated date for it to be released, they just pre-emptively hate it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:11:11 PM EDT
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Japan still hasn't forgiven us.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. To glowing reviews? |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you ever spent any time watching NHK World, that Country has a real chip on their shoulder about being nuked. They will work that shit in every news story or show they possibly can. Someday, I would like to visit The Col.Tibbets Memorial Park. During the years that the Enola Gay was being restored, Japanese news crews would start showing up at the restoration shop a couple weeks before the anniversary, each year. Their interviews with restoration staff took much longer than interviews by US news crews, because they would ask each question at least twice (in reworded form) over the course of the interview, in an apparent attempt to trip up the person being interviewed. One of the crews was not above doing some creative editing before broadcasting the interview, twisting things around enough to make something of a diplomatic incident between the US and Japan. My understanding is that part of the reason that they have that chip on their shoulder, is that their government did not allow WW2 history to be included in their textbooks until the last of the government officials that had taken part in WW2 had died off (somewhere around 1990, if I'm not mistaken). History professors could verbally include it in their college lectures, but it was a forbidden topic in high school and lower grades. If they hadn't heard it in a lecture from a college history professor (or some foreign source), what they had been taught could be summed up as 'there was a war, then the US nuked two Japanese cities'. And from what I read at the time, their college history professors had been chomping at the bit for some years to get permission from their government to include the actual history of WW2 in the high school textbooks they were writing. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To glowing reviews? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. To glowing reviews? It will leave behind a radiance that will last for years and years and years. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have often wondered why there is no obesity in Japan. Seems they have an aversion to fat men. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. I'm sure China still hasn't forgiven Japan for Unit 731 or the Rape of Nanking, either. Oh, that's right, Japan pretends that those war crimes and crimes against humanity didn't happen. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have often wondered why there is no obesity in Japan. Seems they have an aversion to fat men. Sumo wrestlers are their celebrities. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:18:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:19:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. Wonder how Nanking feels about that. We really need to make a film about Unit 731. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. For what? Rebuilding them when they deserved annihilation? |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:21:03 PM EDT
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Went to the Smithsonian air museum last week. Enola Gay was my favorite display!
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:21:38 PM EDT
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They can’t see it.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:22:31 PM EDT
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The first bomb was on us, the second was on them.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan.  |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:25:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During the years that the Enola Gay was being restored, Japanese news crews would start showing up at the restoration shop a couple weeks before the anniversary, each year. Their interviews with restoration staff took much longer than interviews by US news crews, because they would ask each question at least twice (in reworded form) over the course of the interview, in an apparent attempt to trip up the person being interviewed. One of the crews was not above doing some creative editing before broadcasting the interview, twisting things around enough to make something of a diplomatic incident between the US and Japan. My understanding is that part of the reason that they have that chip on their shoulder, is that their government did not allow WW2 history to be included in their textbooks until the last of the government officials that had taken part in WW2 had died off (somewhere around 1990, if I'm not mistaken). History professors could verbally include it in their college lectures, but it was a forbidden topic in high school and lower grades. If they hadn't heard it in a lecture from a college history professor (or some foreign source), what they had been taught could be summed up as 'there was a war, then the US nuked two Japanese cities'. And from what I read at the time, their college history professors had been chomping at the bit for some years to get permission from their government to include the actual history of WW2 in the high school textbooks they were writing. People should be required to watch Midway before watching Oppenheimer, for some context. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For what? Rebuilding them when they deserved annihilation?  Barefoot Gen Atomic Bomb Scene 4k [HD][60FPS] |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:27:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will leave behind a radiance that will last for years and years and years. Like a shadow to remember opening night…. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:29:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:30:37 PM EDT
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 Japanese react to 'Oppenheimer' movie ahead of A-bomb anniversary | AFP |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:31:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For what? Rebuilding them when they deserved annihilation? For real though I just learned that all of the Purple Heart medals that we have now were made for the invasion of Japan. They expected so many casualties that we haven't exhausted the inventory. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:32:59 PM EDT
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Saw the movie today with my son and it was fantastic...to make sure we were balanced today, we ate sushi for lunch before seeing the movie
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:33:38 PM EDT
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One thing to remember is that in Japan, theatrical releases aren't a very big deal at all - the Japanese don't really go out to the movies very much, and the emphasis there is on home theater. So if Oppenheimer doesn't do much business at the box office, or even doesn't have a theatrical release at all, that really doesn't tell us a lot. The question is how many people will watch, and what the reaction will be, when it hits Netflix and Amazon Prime in Japan. That'll be a little while, so we'll see what happens then.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:33:44 PM EDT
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I wonder if it was showed over there what the fallout would be.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have often wondered why there is no obesity in Japan. Seems they have an aversion to fat men. No pedophilia, either, now that you mention it. Don't like fat men or little boys. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:35:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing to remember is that in Japan, theatrical releases aren't a very big deal at all - the Japanese don't really go out to the movies very much, and the emphasis there is on home theater. So if Oppenheimer doesn't do much business at the box office, or even doesn't have a theatrical release at all, that really doesn't tell us a lot. The question is how many people will watch, and what the reaction will be, when it hits Netflix and Amazon Prime in Japan. That'll be a little while, so we'll see what happens then. I'm thinking they're going to need a VPN. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:36:11 PM EDT
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Their reaction:
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:36:27 PM EDT
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I doubt they play it much in Japan. They tend to hide from they're history.
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. Fuck em. Don’t start shit. They need to be glad it wasn’t Tokyo and Kayoto. Should have hung their emporer on live TV as well. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt they play it much in Japan. They tend to hide from they're history. The only history they read or watch is non-fission. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People should be required to watch Midway before watching Oppenheimer, for some context. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: During the years that the Enola Gay was being restored, Japanese news crews would start showing up at the restoration shop a couple weeks before the anniversary, each year. Their interviews with restoration staff took much longer than interviews by US news crews, because they would ask each question at least twice (in reworded form) over the course of the interview, in an apparent attempt to trip up the person being interviewed. One of the crews was not above doing some creative editing before broadcasting the interview, twisting things around enough to make something of a diplomatic incident between the US and Japan. My understanding is that part of the reason that they have that chip on their shoulder, is that their government did not allow WW2 history to be included in their textbooks until the last of the government officials that had taken part in WW2 had died off (somewhere around 1990, if I'm not mistaken). History professors could verbally include it in their college lectures, but it was a forbidden topic in high school and lower grades. If they hadn't heard it in a lecture from a college history professor (or some foreign source), what they had been taught could be summed up as 'there was a war, then the US nuked two Japanese cities'. And from what I read at the time, their college history professors had been chomping at the bit for some years to get permission from their government to include the actual history of WW2 in the high school textbooks they were writing. People should be required to watch Midway before watching Oppenheimer, for some context. The Japanese military (during the first half of the 1940s) had one third control of their government's ruling council, due to having appointed military officers to the council. Thanks to the military fanboy faction on the council, the Japanese military effectively had solid control of half of the ruling council. Japanese military tradition was that wars were fought by taking as much land as possible, then (at some point before the opponent could turn the tide of war) 'sue for peace' and start peace talks to determine how much land would be given back to soothe the ego/honor of the side that had lost land, and how much land would be kept by the side that had captured it. In hindsight, Japan should have 'sued for peace' shortly before the battle at Midway, since the previous naval battle wasn't a clear victory for them, and Midway ended up being a bad loss for them. To compound the error in missing their ideal timing on when to switch to attempting negotiations, the Japanese military was convinced (from shortly after Midway, until Nagasaki was nuked) that they could salvage things and turn the war around to put the US back on the defensive. A small number of their senior officers had spent time in the US before the war and cautioned against anything more than a brief war with the US, but the bulk of their officers didn't seem to understand the overwhelming logistical advantage the US would have once the US economy shifted to wartime production. |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder how Nanking feels about that. We really need to make a film about Unit 731. The Memorial Hall of the Victims in Nanjing Massacre by Japanese Invaders is a major museum in the city. https://www.19371213.com.cn/en/about/museum/202007/t20200710_2236058.html |
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Posted: 8/4/2023 11:50:55 PM EDT
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arot arot arot
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:04:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Memorial Hall of the Victims in Nanjing Massacre by Japanese Invaders is a major museum in the city. https://www.19371213.com.cn/en/about/museum/202007/t20200710_2236058.html Here's an interesting article about memorials and statues that used to stand in different parts of the Japanese Empire, and what happened to them after the war ended. Basically, they pretty much all got demolished except for the "Ryojun Loyalty Tower" in Lushun, China (formerly Port Arthur), which somehow made it and is still standing today. The Chinese call it the "Baiyu Pagoda", and few of them today remember who built it or what it used to be. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:06:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. Next time do not conduct a sneak attack. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:06:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Japan still hasn't forgiven us. But they've given us waifu 
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:13:02 AM EDT
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I don't it will be shown in Japan, and if it is, few will see it. Japan really likes to look at themselves as the huge victim of WW2 because of the two nukes.
They don't get the whole "fuck around, commit huge massacres and every other war crime you can list against multiple nations and peoples, and find out" principle. Or even just the "don't start nothing, there won't be nothing" principle. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:14:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck em. Don’t start shit. They need to be glad it wasn’t Tokyo and Kayoto. Should have hung their emporer on live TV as well. Theres a reason we didnt nuke tokyo... we had already firebombed it into oblivion already (actually killed more doing THAT than the two nukes). People seemed to forget we (and the brits, and the germans) were and did level many cities without need for nukes. If nukes had never been invented or were physically impossible, I bet we'd have had a HOT cold war that would have involved the destruction of many US and Russian cities by non-nuke ICBMs and intercontinental bombers. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:15:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear it's blowing up in Japan. You heard wrong, it bombed. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:16:22 AM EDT
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Never before has a FPNI more than this FPNI. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:16:38 AM EDT
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