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Posted: 10/12/2021 11:24:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:28:15 PM EDT
I'm excited for this bird to fly but it is a testament to the government's inability to get anything done right.

"Originally proposed in 1996, JWST was supposed to launch as early as 2007 for a cost of $1 billion. But the project's timeline has been delayed numerous times, as the budget of the mission has increased to $9.7 billion. On September 8th, NASA set a target launch date for December 18th, 2021, 14 years later than originally planned."



Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:29:36 PM EDT
DAMN HOMOPHOBIC TELESCOPE!

Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:29:55 PM EDT
20+ years to develop is pretty damn pathetic.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:30:05 PM EDT
Lol and they're not even using SpaceX.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:30:06 PM EDT
Oh yeah! I forgot all about this one! Damn it has been a long time! I hope your 640kb resolution gives us the best images ever.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:30:22 PM EDT
smarter everyday has a good video on this
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:30:33 PM EDT
badass. But I fear too fragile.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:33:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By linuxgnar:
Lol and they're not even using SpaceX.
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That Shitty French rocket is gonna yeet the homophobe telescope into the ocean
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:33:31 PM EDT
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awesome piece of technology, but death by fire would be poetic commentary on the state of this government.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:35:05 PM EDT
Fingers crossed!
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:35:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nisa715:
20+ years to develop is pretty damn pathetic.
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Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.

Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:36:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:
I'm excited for this bird to fly but it is a testament to the government's inability to get anything done right.

"Originally proposed in 1996, JWST was supposed to launch as early as 2007 for a cost of $1 billion. But the project's timeline has been delayed numerous times, as the budget of the mission has increased to $9.7 billion. On September 8th, NASA set a target launch date for December 18th, 2021, 14 years later than originally planned."


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And NASA wonders why the American public doesn't give a shit about them any longer, lol.  Ole' Musky could have had it built in 18 months and under budget.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:36:12 PM EDT
In before blurry images.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:36:12 PM EDT
For the sake of all the taxpayer's money that has been sacrificed on this altar, I hope that fucking telescope works as intended.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:36:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By byron2112:
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I seriously doubt it's going to work with out an issue when it gets up there.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:37:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wheel:

Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.

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Originally Posted By wheel:
Originally Posted By nisa715:
20+ years to develop is pretty damn pathetic.

Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.



Elon could figure out how to get someone out there to fix it
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:37:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By byron2112:
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Hard to argue with your logic.

Scud missle it is!
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:37:56 PM EDT
9.7 billion and what will be the return, other than curiosity?
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:38:48 PM EDT
How long to make the eyeglasses it will need and get them fitted like before?
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:39:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Alien nudes
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:41:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By linuxgnar:
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Yeah that sucks but falcon heavy's fairing is only 4.6m and they need 5m for the scope.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:44:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Couple of rich dudes LOL'ing in their Ferraris while nerds around the world do Alt-Tabs back and forth between cosplay porn and pixelated mars faces?
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:49:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Like other space programs, the results appear in unexpected ways. Cell phones, GPS, computers, space craft, aircraft....all from Nasa and the associated capitalist programs and commie space programs.
Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:49:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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How about knowledge?  
It was Hubble in the early 1920's who figured out that the faint smudges that could be seen in the sky were not distant stars but in fact distant galaxies.  The concept was revolutionary and shook the entire world of astronomy.  Hence they named a telescope after him.

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Link Posted: 10/12/2021 11:50:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wheel:

How about knowledge?  
It was Hubble in the early 1920's that who figured out that the faint smudges that could be seen in the sky were not distant stars but in fact distant galaxies.  The concept was revolutionary and shook the entire world of astronomy.  Hence they named a telescope after him.

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Originally Posted By wheel:
Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
9.7 billion and what will be the return, other than curiosity?

How about knowledge?  
It was Hubble in the early 1920's that who figured out that the faint smudges that could be seen in the sky were not distant stars but in fact distant galaxies.  The concept was revolutionary and shook the entire world of astronomy.  Hence they named a telescope after him.

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but was he anti gay and did he have seggs with trannies?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 1:24:24 AM EDT
Didn't read everything. Will this model be sent deeper into space? Cant wait for the pics. It will be entertaining during the winter when  we have to drink snow coffee.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 1:31:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MyAliyah:
Didn't read everything. Will this model be sent deeper into space? Cant wait for the pics. It will be entertaining during the winter when  we have to drink snow coffee.
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Deeper in space, yes. It will essentially be hiding out on the dark side of the moon. Which means effectively zero light pollution.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 1:32:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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It will enable new studies, so that means scientists get new grants.  Spend some to make some.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 2:23:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By midcap:


Alien nudes
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Originally Posted By midcap:
Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
9.7 billion and what will be the return, other than curiosity?


Alien nudes


Link Posted: 10/13/2021 2:30:03 AM EDT
Holy fuck are they finally fucking launching it?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 2:31:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ShadowAngel:


Deeper in space, yes. It will essentially be hiding out on the dark side of the moon. Which means effectively zero light pollution.
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There is no dark side of the moon.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 2:34:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Yeah who gives a shit about learning new information about the universe that is impossible to glean otherwise. That's worthless. We should go back to living in mud huts. Then we don't need to worry about learning new things. Life is simpler.

I seriously hope this is a troll but it's probably not. I really don't think people that make comments like this even comprehend how ignorant said comments are. Learning about physics and how the universe works and is made isn't curiosity. It leads us down new research paths for technologies.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 2:52:24 AM EDT
Cool!

They were "just about done building it" when I saw it at Goddard YEARS ago. I wasn't sure it would ever launch.

I always figured that by the time they were finally done with it they would decide that their tech was out of date and they needed to start over.

Link Posted: 10/13/2021 3:20:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alien:

Yeah who gives a shit about learning new information about the universe that is impossible to glean otherwise. That's worthless. We should go back to living in mud huts. Then we don't need to worry about learning new things. Life is simpler.

I seriously hope this is a troll but it's probably not. I really don't think people that make comments like this even comprehend how ignorant said comments are. Learning about physics and how the universe works and is made isn't curiosity. It leads us down new research paths for technologies.
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Unfortunately it isn’t a troll question. There’s a lot of same think here. All the while not realizing how they’re posting, what they’re posting on, and how it all works is thanks to research that stems from ideas like this.

Americans, “we don’t do cool stuff anymore.”

America does something cool.

Americans, “what’s the point?”
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 3:38:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak:
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As long as perkins cole doesn’t use a lens geometry meant for a spy satellite focused on earth this time.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 3:39:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Would you prefer it be spent on welfare programs?  Feeding a hungry child?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:35:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wheel:

Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.

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I would doubt at this point that the telescope is bleeding edge technology if it was designed 20 years ago.   NASA is one of the biggest boondoggles in a government full of boondoggle agencies.  

That is not to say that interesting data will not be generated as long as it gets where it is supposed to go and does what it supposed to do but I have my doubts that will happen.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:40:54 AM EDT
Wake me up once it's actually past our atmosphere and mostly safe.
I pretty much wrote off ever seeing this thing being successful, since they've drug their feet so much in getting it there.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:42:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MadMonkey:


There is no dark side of the moon.
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Originally Posted By ShadowAngel:


Deeper in space, yes. It will essentially be hiding out on the dark side of the moon. Which means effectively zero light pollution.


There is no dark side of the moon.

In the Earth's shadow.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:47:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By midcap:


I seriously doubt it's going to work with out an issue when it gets up there.
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Originally Posted By midcap:
Originally Posted By byron2112:
awesome piece of technology, but death by fire would be poetic commentary on the state of this government.


I seriously doubt it's going to work with out an issue when it gets up there.
Probably runs on Windows ME.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:49:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WI_Bill:
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Would you not build a camera that could possibly show us the beginning of the Universe?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:56:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JQ66:



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At this point, I'd rather have that entire 3.5 T package go to a telescope where they fucked up the focal point, CCD went bad due to static discharge or simply blew up on a French rocket than having that money spent by Congress to enslave us. That's simply how bad it is now.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:40:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JustinHEMI04:
I'm excited for this bird to fly but it is a testament to the government's inability to get anything done right.

"Originally proposed in 1996, JWST was supposed to launch as early as 2007 for a cost of $1 billion. But the project's timeline has been delayed numerous times, as the budget of the mission has increased to $9.7 billion. On September 8th, NASA set a target launch date for December 18th, 2021, 14 years later than originally planned."



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They can get shit done just fine if they want to , but they had the ability to steal 7 billion dollars over 14 years , and they took it .
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:41:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scott-S6:

In the Earth's shadow.
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Originally Posted By Scott-S6:
Originally Posted By MadMonkey:
Originally Posted By ShadowAngel:


Deeper in space, yes. It will essentially be hiding out on the dark side of the moon. Which means effectively zero light pollution.


There is no dark side of the moon.

In the Earth's shadow.


Nope

It'll always be in view of the Sun.

Which is good, since it's solar powered
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:00:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MyAliyah:
Didn't read everything. Will this model be sent deeper into space? Cant wait for the pics. It will be entertaining during the winter when  we have to drink snow coffee.
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I just hope there are enough birds to eat
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:03:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MadMonkey:

Nope

It'll always be in view of the Sun.

Which is good, since it's solar powered
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Originally Posted By MadMonkey:
Originally Posted By Scott-S6:
In the Earth's shadow.

Nope

It'll always be in view of the Sun.

Which is good, since it's solar powered


It will be put in orbit around the L2 Lagrange point:

Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:03:07 AM EDT
That curved stems on both sides looks familiar

In my old Laserjock days our small tiny 5 - 8 employee company worked on a couple of 10 parts that resembled that shape. Precision Microfab

Many redesigns and change of specs. Material changes from various 0.007" stainless alloys to nitinol

Over the course of 2.5 or so years

If they accepted on set of parts that were finalized when the contract closed I'll have my name inscribed on a part going out in space. Can't add weight ;)
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I will bet a bronze membership that it doesn't launch in 2021.



Who's up for the challenge?


If it launches this year, I buy you a membership. If not, you buy me one.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:11:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By midcap:


That Shitty French rocket is gonna yeet the homophobe telescope into the ocean
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Originally Posted By linuxgnar:
Lol and they're not even using SpaceX.


That Shitty French rocket is gonna yeet the homophobe telescope into the ocean

This...

Kharn
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:13:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wheel:

Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.

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Originally Posted By wheel:
Originally Posted By nisa715:
20+ years to develop is pretty damn pathetic.

Granted, government projects in general are bloated and result in poor quality.
However, in this case you have to bear in mind that this is pushing the state of the art technically. Unlike Hubble, this telescope will be parked in a location that is too far out for us to service.  So not only is it exceeding complex and bleeding edge, it HAS to be right.  I'm sure there are redundant systems on board, but still it's an awfully daunting challenge.  I wouldn't want to be the guy who made a stupid mistake that turned it into a boat anchor.


So build five of them for $1 billion each over two decades instead of one over budget by $5 billion.

Kharn
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